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'You are God'
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I hear/read this statement all the time on this forum..but what exactly does it mean? How could I be God? God has been described as 'all-knowing' and 'perfect.' I am certainly none of those! I am interested....
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another description of god is "All" and we are apart of that all which could make us a fragment of god
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: spudamore]
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I usually take it to mean you make your own decisions
By doing so, you shape your own environment and thus become God
However, there's always some sort of outside force that proves this statement wrong
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I think what that is trying to say is that supposing God is something that our brain has just somewhat "made up" then we also made up all the "answers" that "God" gave us. That's perhaps the reason of different religions and perceptions of spirituality and religion.
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If you follow vedic philosophy:
"The feature of the lord by which He is present everywhere is called the Paramatma. Atma means the individual soul, and paramatma means the individual supersoul(god). Both atma and paramatma are individual persons. The difference between them, however, is that the atma, or soul, is present only in one particular place, whereas the paramatma is present everywhere."
taken from "The Science of Self Realization" by A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
I interpret "atma, or soul, is present only in one particular place" to mean our own soul. From my limited studies I believe that becoming god does not mean that we loose every aspect of ourself, but that a perfect dovetailing or union takes place. In this way of thinking, we cannot become god until we are only the part of us that is god.
I have gotten a lot out of this book. IMO Prabupada can come across as dogmatic in certain chapters if you do not take into effect the context of the chapters. In some chapters consisting of dialogue he will suddenly interupt and steer the conversation in a direction not consciously intended by the interviewer, but I reason that this is because of the context in which the interview is taking place, i.e on a radio show where the point must be made in an alloted set of time. In reality the vedic system is a very straightforward philisophy, I highly reccomend studying the bhagavad gita.
Through my meditation and studies I have come to realize that each person contains a "personality" that exists within god, I call this my soul or atma. This realization is helpful in accepting what people often call your shadow, or the part that you say is not all knowing and perfect. It is silly to get down on ourselves because of wrong doings of our past, these wrong doings are just part of being human. We are not god(yet!), otherwise we would not have to question what god is. But we are part of god and this is the part we must come to through liberation (meditation and yoga).
Even more, when you get down to it as long as we exist on this material plane we are existing as a shadow. A metaphor to god and light can be made in material existence, in that light travels freely through the vaccum of interstellar space as god pervades all of existence. There is nothing to see unless light has something to reflect off of, as there is nothing to experience unless there is something for god to reflect off of(i.e us).
We all exist in the here and now, but we each experience the here and now in a different way. Therefore atma can be considered our own individual state of here and now.
Anything out of quotations is my own writing.
That will mean different things to different people
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Obviously, to be at one with God we have to also be made of God ourselves. I think of this as a re-established identity. It took me awhile to articulate it properly, but our egoic selves are drawn out moment versus moment with each experience, while our divine selves are singular somewhat.
Think of yourself as amphibious, as either the egoic personality can shine through you, or the Divine personality. When you donate food to the poor, or buy a homeless man a hot meal, these actions are Pure as the Divine, for it is the Divine reality that manifests in such actions. There is nothing egoic about allowing compassion to flow through you.
The idea is, let your entire self decrease, to the point where you even forget yourself and all that is present is the Divine reality. By letting the ideas of God shine through every action, we in effect become God.
I would not think of God as isolate, as something so caught up in His-Her perfection that He doesn't allow anyone to enter Him. Rather, God is trying to make all of us a part of Him.
When we fall in love with God, this very love itself is a Divine Eye, an Awareness. It is a substance that rises above the temporal ego. It is the love for God that is the true self, and it is this love for God that survives the test of time, while our egoic selves become dust. There is no need really for individuality in this provision since all that is required for ecstasy is Awareness.
Simply let God swallow you whole, let Him consume your being so you become Him.
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phishphish2 said: I hear/read this statement all the time on this forum..but what exactly does it mean? How could I be God? God has been described as 'all-knowing' and 'perfect.' I am certainly none of those! I am interested....
""I am certainly none of those!""
how would you know, if you weren't all knowing?
Being interested, .. in being perfect, is it!
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: Gomp]
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I know what you guys are talking about with letting God shine through and connecting with him, but I cannot assume that it is God.
Why do people insist on coming up with the idea of God? Some higher power that is all knowing, or even that the universe itself is necessarily interconnected in every way possible.
Why can't it all be chaos? Why can't we just know that there is this physical universe and that's that?
I say I understand you because I realize that there is a higher form of thought and that it is possible to connect with the world around us. I just don't necessarily beleive that things are meant to happen in any certain way. It could just be that the chaos is interconnected in certain ways. Those chance connections are what make up the framework of our lives. I understand how they could be seen as meaningful, but really they are only meaningful to you. There is only what's right and wrong to you. You relate to everything else, not the other way around.
So in that sense, we are not Gods. Gods have power over things other than themselves. We do not. When we seek to control, that will only hurt us because that is not the right way. The only control we have is to do what we feel is right. That will work in conjunction with everything, rather than working against it. Gods are omnipotent and have the choice to decide. When we view ourselves in that light, we lose touch with our true feelings and become manipulated.
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""I am certainly none of those!""
how would you know, if you weren't all knowing?
Being interested, .. in being perfect, is it!
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I agree with everything you said before that:
"So in that sense, we are not Gods. Gods have power over things other than themselves. We do not. When we seek to control, that will only hurt us because that is not the right way. The only control we have is to do what we feel is right. That will work in conjunction with everything, rather than working against it. Gods are omnipotent and have the choice to decide. When we view ourselves in that light, we lose touch with our true feelings and become manipulated. "
We are the gods of ants for one thing and they the gods of breadcrumb! :-) Everything has to be related to some other thing to describe it. But many people use god as a very narrow-minded term because of organised religion sayings.
We are god really means, we don't need god.
first "god" is using relativity, second god is the narrow-minded term.
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Shroomerious said: I agree with everything you said before that:
"So in that sense, we are not Gods. Gods have power over things other than themselves. We do not. When we seek to control, that will only hurt us because that is not the right way. The only control we have is to do what we feel is right. That will work in conjunction with everything, rather than working against it. Gods are omnipotent and have the choice to decide. When we view ourselves in that light, we lose touch with our true feelings and become manipulated. "
We are the gods of ants for one thing and they the gods of breadcrumb! :-) Everything has to be related to some other thing to describe it. But many people use god as a very narrow-minded term because of organised religion sayings.
We are god really means, we don't need god.
first "god" is using relativity, second god is the narrow-minded term.
We are stronger and smarter than ants, but we are not God to them. They would not listen to us. We cannot manipulate them in anyway. And if we killed them with a magnifying glass or something, it would hurt us because we know that they have every right to live just like us.
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You missed the point. The point was relativity. Anyway what you are saying is wrong too.
"They would not listen to us"
Is that the definition of god..well....
"We cannot manipulate them in anyway.And if we killed them with a magnifying glass or something, it would hurt us because we know that they have every right to live just like us. "
Do you like eating burgers?
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There's a difference, though, because eating a burger is justifiable in my eyes.
From your post before: we agree that we are not justified in calling ourselves Gods. I don't exactly understand how relativity ties into your point, but atleast we agree. =D The descriptive word for what we are is free because we don't need a god. That's a better way of looking at things than saying that we are gods because we are free.
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Justifying eating a burger is subjective.
"From your post before: we agree that we are not justified in calling ourselves Gods. I don't exactly understand how relativity ties into your point, but atleast we agree. =D The descriptive word for what we are is free because we don't need a god. That's a better way of looking at things than saying that we are gods because we are free. "
Relativity kind of ties in as in how can there be an ultimate god? What would be "above" that god? The concept of infinity which we can not grasp is the problem. So we are all smaller gods. And there are smaller and bigger, not small and big. But true, as you said, in the sense of being free and also in the sense that we don't need a single god to rely on. We can learn to rely on ourselfs. It's a different definition of god in each time, so yes I think overall we agree :-)))
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Tbh I am really confused by this whole conversation and I don't feel that it was contstructive for me. =x "What we have here is a failure to communicate." Or.. I just fail to understand your point.
But about the burger thing: I wrote this in an above post. "There is only what's right and wrong to you. You relate to everything else, not the other way around."
So.. if you opinion is based on logically considering your reality by using intellect and some intuition based on gut feeling (as is often-times necessary), then obviously you won't be thinking that eating an animal is Ok for no reason. We need to survive after all. If some better race of organism ate me to survive, I would think it sucked, but I wouldn't be angry about it because atleast they used my body. =)
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phishphish2 said: How could I be God?
How could you be the creator? You are always in the creative position -- in all action, thought and experience. You are god, because you make it all, because you are the first and last.
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No, I'm the devil.
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You are referring to your individuality, your ego. The 'I' which is God, is the Transpersonal Ground of Being from which our individual being derives, moment-to-moment.
Each individual wave comes into being, endures in time, and goes out of being. Each wave derives from the Ocean - is one with the Ocean. We are each waves, and we can identify with the specifics of our individual 'wavehood,' or we can endeavor to identify with the Ocean in which we "live and move and have our being." In one sense, our experience is God's experience even though God's experience is not our experience.
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Theirs no point in argueing your godhood if you do not understand what god is.
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They just mean that everything is god. In my opinion it's just like saying, "there is no god in the yahweh or allah sense, yet everything is interconnected and it makes me feel like I'm part of something majestic, which i'll call god." I hate this usage because it makes people like me and you confused.
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You get confused because people like you are usually looking for an idea of god that they can use in discourse rather than in every aspect of your being. God is waiting for you to discover what ever manifestation you choose to perceive god as, whether it be allah, christ, or krishna. Get on with it. If you are sincere in your questioning you will find what you're looking for.
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MarkostheGnostic said: You are referring to your individuality, your ego. The 'I' which is God, is the Transpersonal Ground of Being from which our individual being derives, moment-to-moment.
Each individual wave comes into being, endures in time, and goes out of being. Each wave derives from the Ocean - is one with the Ocean. We are each waves, and we can identify with the specifics of our individual 'wavehood,' or we can endeavor to identify with the Ocean in which we "live and move and have our being." In one sense, our experience is God's experience even though God's experience is not our experience.
This is an area where I often start to disagree with you markos. Perhaps I am making the mistake of reading to deeply into your posts, in which case please enlighten me to this blunder!
Through my perception you often paint an image of god that is impersonal and remotely participating in existence. Genesis 9:6 says "For in the image of God made He man". IMO people often mistake this passage to mean that god is human in form, obviously this is caused by our identifying with our physical vessel rather than what really makes us human, spirit. When god created this world by taking on the role of the creator 'he' took on a personal form. If god is everything, then we see that he must be just as immpersonal as he is personal, present as much as he is absent.
It is often said that the greatest gift man can give to god, is his/her love. God wishes for this act to be spontaneous, hence our free will. God wants us to know god, but wishes that we go through this process on our own accord.
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MarkostheGnostic said:
Each individual wave comes into being, endures in time, and goes out of being. Each wave derives from the Ocean - is one with the Ocean. We are each waves, and we can identify with the specifics of our individual 'wavehood,' or we can endeavor to identify with the Ocean in which we "live and move and have our being." In one sense, our experience is God's experience even though God's experience is not our experience.
This also confuses me a little in relation to previous posts you made in which you've stated that you believe that depending upon where one is at on the spiritual path at the time of his/her death determines what will happen to him/her in his/her afterlife.
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phishphish2 said: I hear/read this statement all the time on this forum..but what exactly does it mean? How could I be God? God has been described as 'all-knowing' and 'perfect.' I am certainly none of those! I am interested....
As Markos says, when you identify with your ego, the impression that you are extremely limited and an individual is certainly prominent. However, that does not necessarily make the impression True.
Your entire being arises as a part of Everything. No part of you is separate or individual. Any such impressions are illusionary.
Identify yourself with Reality and you will see the answer to your questions very clearly.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: dblaney]
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phishphish2 said: I hear/read this statement all the time on this forum..but what exactly does it mean? How could I be God? God has been described as 'all-knowing' and 'perfect.' I am certainly none of those! I am interested....
As Markos says, when you identify with your ego, the impression that you are extremely limited and an individual is certainly prominent. However, that does not necessarily make the impression True.
Your entire being arises as a part of Everything. No part of you is separate or individual. Any such impressions are illusionary.
Identify yourself with Reality and you will see the answer to your questions very clearly.
Assuming that by ego you mean "your consciousness of your own identity"
If god is equally present in everything, then isn't the ego just as much a part of god as non-ego? In which case how can we ever know god completely if we exclude certain parts of god? Spiritual development is a process of changing what you identify as yourself, in spiritually un-developed people the self is identified with the flesh in blood, in spiritually developed people the self is identified with god. This process goes on and on until one is god and god is one!
If we continue to believe that our sense of self exists soley in the material world then we certainly are limited by the material world. If we believe that our sense of self is god, then we are only limited by god.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: Cherk]
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While God is immanent and is ever-present, He is not literally defined and confined by everything that is in form. While ever-present, He is distinct. More panentheistic than pantheistic.
Our ego is our sense of self. In the God reality there is no sense of self, there is only God, as our egos do not survive physical death.
God is indeed Love. Eternal life isn't a physical paradise-heaven, but rather an Eternal moment in the Pleroma. The Children of God do not exist in the "afterlife" individually, rather we become a single consciousness in the Fullness of God. We in effect become God at death, as only God remains outside the fold of time-space-physics.
Perhaps at times your heart became so welled up with God's love/compassion that you were physically brought to tears. The feeling is ecstatic and at times crippling. The eternal moment that is our provision is essentially this as a metaphysical experience. It remains at full intensity in an eternal moment. There is no need for ego or sense of self when all that is needed to enjoy this ecstastic union is simple Awareness/Consciousness. In eternity we have no hands, feet, or eyes (or even the ability to think). We are simply pure Awareness, blissfully Aware of our Beloved Origin and Ground of Awareness.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: Basilides]
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Beautiful post.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: Basilides]
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By the definiton of god, god cannot be simply a part in the pleroma. God is everything, he/she/it is omnipotent, omniscient. God is the limitation that makes unlimitation possible, and the unlimitation that makes limitation possible. Much of what happens after death is revealed in "Autobiography of a Yogi" as well partially in the Bhagavad Gita (in which is states that one returns to the god that one worships) This topic has very little potential to exist outside of speculation and heated argument on these boards as only the gurus and saints can enlighten us as to what actually happens.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: dorkus]
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: Basilides]
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For us to be aware/conscious of nothing, we must be aware/conscious of everything. Maya is as real as god, yet it is a fleeting reality while god is eternal. Spirituality is the process of becoming aware of this and starting to identify our selves with the eternal, rather than maya.
the student asks Q: What is god's form? A: God is formless. persistantly, the student asks again Q: So what is god's form? A: The form of forlmessness.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: Cherk]
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The Pleroma is the Fullness of God's ideas, intensity, and ideal glory. It is also Unlimited, in that each spark that returns to the Fullness of God increases the Glory of God. It is merely a linguistic description of the mounting ecstasy that is constantly snowballing as the "Eye of Humanity" continues to increase, as does God's own understanding of Himself. We complete God, while God completes us. In Oneness, as One Divine Being in Ecstasy, this is the Fullness of God - if we were to experience this individually and physically, one wouldn't shed tears of joy; we might literally have a massive heart attack as only the billions of individuals that become a singular, massive consciousness can fully experience the Fullness of God. That is how ecstatic the much talked about "eternal life" is for God's family. In a metaphysical sense, God is constantly increasing in ecstasy. It is the final housing of the broken vessels that return home to their Divine Origin. It is intense. It is compassion and love burning like a furnace. Add a single soul-spark-spirit to the mix, the intensity of the God's Glory immediately increases, if only to keep up with "us".
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Very good posts, indeed. That lets me follow some analogy. If we can regard ourselves dualistic, on the one hand full of ego and self-purpose and on the other hand melting with g*d's one- and all-ness, and g*d made us from his image, why couldn't we see g*d as dualistic himself ? If he uses his ego, he becomes self-aware and justifying like in the OT. If he becomes one with his creation, he becomes the all compassionate omni-present and loving g*d, fruiting life into its/her/his creation (standard definition). I think, that would be a great point for considering g*d's 'personification'...in becoming self-aware and conscious of his identity (thanks all posters for the ideas !).
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: Cherk]
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"God is waiting for you to discover what ever manifestation you choose to perceive god as"
If this is so then personally, I feel more at peace if I choose not to perceive god at all. It's just putting a high and mighty name on the natural world, which is wonderful without that name. "God" implies the supernatural.
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Perhaps as god, you created relativity in order to start from scratch and experience yourself as god rather than just being god. Perhaps, in order to experience yourself through all of these forms of life, you had to erase your memory of being god.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: Learyfan]
#5540835 - 04/21/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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My 2 cents, I have found through my own experiences and knowledge and rationalizations... that we are a fragment of god... reading the quote put a smile to my face because it is verbatim in my head...
But thats what most dont understand, we are not god, we are merely a fragment...
God started the original reaction which created the big bang, and there was more power everywhere in the forms of matter and anti-matter than anyone could comprehend, and matter and anti-matter was supposed to be equally balanced... "god seperated the light from the darkness" (im agnostic but I find truth in some religious quotes) there was a slightly higher ammount of matter than anti-matter, which the rest ahnihalated itself, that 0.0000000001% that was left had a force to it, and the careful configuration of that original pattern of energy expelled from the center of the universe converged in such a way to create everything around us, and the human existance is a fraction of this universe smaller than I care to write. So yes we are a fragment of god, but I laugh at anyone who tries to understand his awesomeness, that includes myself.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: Cherk]
#5541131 - 04/21/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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phishphish2 said: I hear/read this statement all the time on this forum..but what exactly does it mean? How could I be God? God has been described as 'all-knowing' and 'perfect.' I am certainly none of those! I am interested....
As Markos says, when you identify with your ego, the impression that you are extremely limited and an individual is certainly prominent. However, that does not necessarily make the impression True.
Your entire being arises as a part of Everything. No part of you is separate or individual. Any such impressions are illusionary.
Identify yourself with Reality and you will see the answer to your questions very clearly.
Assuming that by ego you mean "your consciousness of your own identity"
If god is equally present in everything, then isn't the ego just as much a part of god as non-ego? In which case how can we ever know god completely if we exclude certain parts of god? Spiritual development is a process of changing what you identify as yourself, in spiritually un-developed people the self is identified with the flesh in blood, in spiritually developed people the self is identified with god. This process goes on and on until one is god and god is one!
If we continue to believe that our sense of self exists soley in the material world then we certainly are limited by the material world. If we believe that our sense of self is god, then we are only limited by god.
Yes, the ego is just as much a part of God as everything else. It is like one droplet of water in a stream. If the entire stream identifies with one droplet of water, then it is ignorant, for it is not limited to only that one droplet, but rather is the entire stream. Similarly, if we identify strictly with the ego, then we are ignorant, for we are not merely the ego, but rather Everything and Nothing. Thus one should try to transcend the ego. Not eliminate it or suppress it, but transcend it: there's a big difference.
So basically I think, we agree.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: dblaney]
#5541156 - 04/21/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The ego never existed in the first place. It is all one movement in the cosmos. You and I and dominoes. We are not a result of the big bang, we are the big bang. There are no individuals here.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: dorkus]
#5541162 - 04/21/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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-------------------- "What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?" "Belief is a beautiful armor But makes for the heaviest sword" - John Mayer Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin. "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: dblaney]
#5541179 - 04/21/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your line of thinking is very understandable, its what usually happens with the untrained mind using hallucinogens Ive noticed, but ive noticed much greater things than any of us individuals and I can feel much more energy for certain things than I can from a person, people are like animals aswell, -like- animals, we arent yet meant to understand the larger workings, the only thing that we are meant to understand is that there are forces larger than us at work at all times, and we can feel them. God is within us, but god is within everything, and god is even far greater than all of this existance.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: OmEgAx1]
#5542383 - 04/21/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your line of thinking is very understandable, its what usually happens with the untrained mind using hallucinogens Ive noticed
Please back up your dismissal of my line of reasoning. What authority have you to assert this, and on what basis?
ive noticed much greater things than any of us individuals and I can feel much more energy for certain things than I can from a person
This is true, there are larger and more powerful things than us, just as there are things weaker than us.
we arent yet meant to understand the larger workings
How do you know this?
the only thing that we are meant to understand is that there are forces larger than us at work at all times, and we can feel them
Gravity, for instance.
-------------------- "What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?" "Belief is a beautiful armor But makes for the heaviest sword" - John Mayer Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin. "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: dblaney]
#5542873 - 04/22/06 12:29 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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obviously you have yet to feel other forces around you (without drugs), I dismiss the idea and its rational because im a slave to rational and I used to have the same line of thinking many years ago before life has showed me alot more.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: OmEgAx1]
#5543616 - 04/22/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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obviously you have yet to feel other forces around you (without drugs)
You seem to be very quick to criticize ideas and jump to conclusions, but you have yet to justify and back up your remarks with any rational or logical arguments.
It's very easy to make an arbitrary assertion, but what's essential is to support it.
I don't mean that anything you said was wrong, nor do I mean that anything you said was right. But please back up your statements.
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Re: 'You are God' [Re: OmEgAx1]
#5545164 - 04/22/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your line of thinking is very understandable, its what usually happens with the untrained mind using hallucinogens Ive noticed, but ive noticed much greater things than any of us individuals
This post sounds like one made from a high horse. Please get off it and try to constructively argue, not vaugely put down or boast or whatever it was you were doing. Your post only left more questions, mostly to your credibility.
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