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SmokenBabyJesus
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Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe
#5517560 - 04/14/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was reading that Smoking the red skin off the cap of an Amanita Muscaria can cause noticeable affects... So... I tried... and I must say I felt weird. so then the next day I did some reading and I came upon this on hxxp://yosemite.epa.gov/oswer/ceppoehs.nsf/profiles/2763-96-4?opendocument The EPA's website
this is a quote about muscimol "Unusual Fire and Explosion Hazards: When heated to decomposition, it emits toxic fumes of nitrogen oxides (Sax 1984, p. 227)." thats the part I was concerned with. and I was wondering if anyone knew if this info was correct. and if so... that could be the reason for the effects I felt. anyway nitrogen oxides are bad and I wanted more on this topic.
MOD EDIT: like Shroomieofdoomie said: don't post direct links to government agencies, but break the links. To use this broken link, copy/paste it into your browser window and replace hxxp with http, then press enter. This way it won't create a referral from the Shroomery to the government.
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Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (04/15/06 05:39 AM)
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CptnGarden
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: SmokenBabyJesus]
#5517567 - 04/14/06 11:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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interesting. but dont post .gov links.
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DrGeek
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: CptnGarden]
#5517745 - 04/15/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's really not a good idea to inhale fungus fumes, no matter what kind of other chemicals are in there.
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thedudenj
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: DrGeek]
#5518442 - 04/15/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i smoke amanita,wormwood, and cannabis and no lung problems what so ever
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stemmer
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: thedudenj]
#5688542 - 05/29/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its a bunch of bullshit. I am sure. "Fungus must be dirty and bad for your lungs" they all said. It seems to me and many people I know to be a very interesting additive to smoked MJ and its very interesting when smoked by themselves.
No lung problems, and after enjoying the smoked amanita for some time I wouldnt bother to read anything from that site.
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leery11
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: stemmer]
#5688689 - 05/29/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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i tried once, it tasted horrible and made my mouth tingle.
i did not try again.
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stemmer
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: leery11]
#5688791 - 05/29/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Aw....... that tingle must have hurt pretty bad.
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Nexus555
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: stemmer]
#5688847 - 05/29/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
stemmer said: Aw....... that tingle must have hurt pretty bad.
Well for how long have you actually been smoking this? Just because you are fine right now doesn't mean anything. Like most things that causes damage to your lungs (not saying anything on MJ, case studies just proved it to not be linked to cancer) it takes years and years to even be noticable. I wouldn't be supporting the notion to smoke fungus skin just because you're ok with it. Without the proper research, you have what is called a baseless statement. And to further my point, I think the author has more of a valid point than you. People should be cautious to smoke this. In my personal opinion, I wouldn't smoke the stuff, but that's just me. Do what you want to to your lungs.
Thanks
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stemmer
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: Nexus555]
#5688888 - 05/29/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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And thank you for making my point... A baseless statement, really???? Just because you know nothing about this drug doesnt mean you shouldnt treat it's soothing smoke like you would all untested RC's out there.
Your right....... we just dont know, dude..(kidding)
Neither did the first shamans trying mushrooms datura, or ayahuasca. I guess the fact that I enjoy the occasional low dose, oral amanita trip along with smoking that ideal mushrooms smoke makes me more of a leader than a follower. I dont have a problem with that. Id be alot more worried about the cigarets I smoke rather than some mushroom claimed to be somehow harmful when burned.
Id almost be willing to bet that cigarets produce the same chemical, that is if amanitas actually produce that stuff in any mentionable quantity when burned.
By the way did this author on the .gov website mention what chemical in the amanita M mushrooms creates nitrogen oxides when smoked. I only asked because smoked amanitas are sort of a special occasion for me, and since you actually read that article, why dont you tell me.
Edited by stemmer (05/29/06 11:09 PM)
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stemmer
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: stemmer]
#5688899 - 05/29/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Nitrogen oxides are common air pollutants found in vehicle exhaust, cigarette smoke and smog".
Thanks for the critique anyways.
SOmetimes people just need to know what the hell it is they are talking about before they comment... toxtown.nlm.nih.gov/descriptions/ description.php?chem=nitrogen%20oxides
So there is my .gov site. Its totally relavent I swear!! (kidding)
I wonder how many of those N oxides are in burned salvia, wormwood, the common woods used for building, and even marijuana.........
Edited by stemmer (05/29/06 11:04 PM)
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stemmer
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: stemmer]
#5688998 - 05/29/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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One last quote to seal the deal for those more difficult people out there:
"Hemp legalization advocates argue that the plant is ideal for biofuel use. "It yields about four times more seed oil than soybeans," Greyson Sigler said. "It grows widely in all climates with little fertilizer or pesticides needed than most crops. It's cheap, drought-resistant and very easy to cultivate. Hemp is, in my opinion, the world's most prodigious renewable resource. It could help California out with its power problems and keep the U.S. from drilling for oil in Alaska."
Sigler added that biodiesel releases 80 percent less emissions on average than gas.
"There are no sulfur byproducts, although there are slightly increased nitrogen oxide emission, most of which can be tuned out," he said. Sulfur and nitrogen oxides are pollutants and common byproducts of combustion".
So in other words, know your shit and dont let crappy info deture you from something that is totally natural. If you buy into this anti-smoked-muscaria sentiment you might as well by into all that crap that says MJ is bad for your lungs. They say those things for one reason. If you smoke MJ for a long time It sure as hell isnt good for your lungs, same as amanitas.
Sorry for these two posts, I just get a kick out of those who are paranoid about amanita smoke without even knowing anything about simple combustion. Hense my attitude toward comments premised on the fact that burned amanitas produce nitrogen oxides that are "bad for you".....
Edited by stemmer (05/29/06 11:32 PM)
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madMushroom
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Re: Smoking Amanitas... DANGER??? maybe [Re: stemmer]
#5689961 - 05/30/06 08:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha now I'm in the mood for some! Now that nitrogen oxides have been put to rest, what were the subjective effects of your experience like?
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