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OfflineLimelight
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Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help
    #5516766 - 04/14/06 05:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

(EDIT-please dont delete this because it has to do with a different drug. im NOT askinga bout the drug.. but i like the advice from this forum the best. Thank you)

Hello all. This is actually not me. My friend has been having some issues lately and he posted on another message board to see if anyone could help him with ideas. It wasn't a serious message board, and he just got trashtalked for 5 pages. So i am using my account to post his posts, because people here always help :sun:

Basically, I'll give my perspective first, and then I will post his posts which give the background information.

Ok, my friend is really cool, he's "normal." He isnt a loser/social reject or any of that. He seems normal. However, he often gives off negative vibes as a result of a drug incident (explained later). He looks at situations cynically. Not in what he says, but how he says it.
For example, someone could say
"we arent going to this party, its too crowded."
Anyone could be like "oh that sucks, damn," and it would sound OK. But sometimes, my friend will say the exact same thing, and just the way he says it sounds very down. It's quite subtle, and you'd never notice with one instance.. but when it happens a couple times in a short time period, it becomes noticable. its almost like he says it like it's the end of the world.

He feels changed for this reason because... (heres his posts in order, and what hed like help with).

please read them all, theyre all important

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I went on a huge DXM binge in 10th grade, and ever since I feel like I'm a different person. I don't quite know how to explain it as theres no obvious differences in me, but I just feel like there's been a "shift" in my thought patterns, which IMO is probably why I'm so weird now . Anyone else ever experience something like this with drugs?


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It's all internal.

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its for the worse. Sometimes I'll just feel somewhat cynical and dark (for lack of better words) for no reason, which reminds me of how i felt when i was all doped up on cough syrup

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one of the main side effects that i can actually notice is how i realized that a lot of girls are really stupid. cough syrup takes away your sexual drive, so when thats gone for a while you start to see through hot girls and realize how dumb they really are. Now I think i give off a bad vibe to random dumb girls because of this, which results in little to no random play ftl.

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Alright, so could someone please help me?

Basically, I think of a lot of things cynically. For example, with girls. I think a lot of girls are stupid and that I can see through them. This is manifested for example when I talk to them at parties. It's common knowledge that if you are an 'ass' to girls, they will like you. However, i feel like I can see through them, and when I talk.. I don't give off that cocky-funny vibe. I actually appear MEAN, like i genuinely don't like them. This is all unintentional.

Now, I realize that this is applied to a lot of my thoughts. It's not just girls. The thing is, i Know that all girls aren't dumb... thats what sucks. A lot are, but i realize there are a lot of cool girls out there, but when I feel like they all suck I have no desire to talk to them, and I come off sounding mean sometimes.

How do I change this? I have tried various things.. I can't think non-cynically or "down."

Any ideas?

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Ok that's the end of his posts.

I've talked to him before and tried to give him some advice, but he says most of it doesn't work :frown:

Hopefully someone has insights. I will let him use my account so he can post replies to what you have to say.

Thanks for helping a freind out :sun:


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OfflineBob_J
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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Limelight]
    #5516834 - 04/14/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Bob_J]
    #5517337 - 04/14/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

just because you see though the games that people are playing doesnt mean its bad.


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: so_me_tuo]
    #5517700 - 04/15/06 12:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, but if seeing through the games makes you unhappy..
ignorance is bliss, i guess.


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Limelight]
    #5517728 - 04/15/06 12:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I will say to you brother, there is no such thing as perma fucked on drugs.

as long as you have your brain, and no brain disabilities you are alive and free.


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: natu]
    #5517732 - 04/15/06 12:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

and i will also add that those with brain disabilities, but functioning brains, are not permafucked but alive as well. :headbanger: :rockon: :gethigh: :gethigh: :gethigh: :gethigh: :gethigh: :gethigh: :gethigh: :gethigh: :gullhuahua:


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: natu]
    #5517826 - 04/15/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i actually have advice.

1) think before you speak. if youre in a situation where you want to seem uplifting, try especially hard not to sound cynical.

2) people rub off on other people. surround yourself with optimists and people who like to have fun. let your friends plan a night out and just go with it. if you hate it, just one night wasted, it could turn out fun. dont stress just go with the flow.

3) dxm might have brought this on, but its all about association now. come to terms with what happened and maybe you wont associate your feelings so much with how you were when you were messed up. realize that that was a time and place in your life and its over. you can feel good again. let yourself.


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Limelight]
    #5517849 - 04/15/06 01:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm the same as you around people for the most part.. People see me as an unmotivated, stern person.. because of my lack of expression. I don't mean things to come out as dull as they do. A guy once told me flat out, after talking with me for an hour or so.. "You've got to have heart man.. You've got to have heart." As he said this, he looked at me with the most darting eyes I've ever seen. That situation, and drugs started to open my eyes a bit toward myself. Once i got to know myself, I saw other things...

Drugs did the same thing to me, they did to you. They opened my mind.. I'm able to see people for who they really are now, and not be suckered in to their bs. I am absolutely ecstatic that I'm able to lock in the truely good people, and block out the phonies and schemers. Why be sad about it? This is part of life. I think everyone goes through this eventually.. even the mind fucks.. only way further into life.

I'll have to admit, I was a bit down when this actually came to me. And believe me it hit me like a ton of bricks. Not only that, but an assload of things came piling ontop of me at once.. really exhausting me mentally. As of now, I'm phasing in and out of 'being OK with myself and the way people are'. I venture to say that time will be in my favor.

You're not the only one going through this. Just got to rise above it. Just give it time!


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: hoboblues]
    #5517911 - 04/15/06 01:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hello, I had a similar thing with myself.
Lets just say it was not permanent, seven months later I was almost back to normal. Now I feel I am completely free of it.

Do you want me to explain in more detail ?


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Limelight]
    #5518516 - 04/15/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

How old is your "friend?"  :smirk:

Have you read any Robert Anton Wilson?  Read the book Prometheus Rising, especially all the parts on "imprint vulnerability."  It will answer a lot of your "friend's" questions.


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Limelight]
    #5519106 - 04/15/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The situation is not hopeless. Actually, there are far more people out there like you than you know. The way you tend to see yourself and the world around you has become skewed, due to the inherent difficulty in integrating significant drug experiences into your life during a key stage of development -- adolescence.
Adolescence is the time when people began to establish an identity for themselves, and learn how they relate socially to the outside world. This is a hard enough time as it is. But for a lot of us here, maybe even most of us, some pretty insane drug-induced shifts in our perception of reality really threw a monkey wrench into the whole equation. I know that's the way it worked for me.

Probably the most important thing for you to understand and acknowledge is the gap between your perception of things and the way they actually are. For example, you say that "you're weird." I'll venture that what you really mean is that you feel alienated. It's likely just "easier" for you to reconcile in your own mind to look at yourself as if you're flawed or defective.

I strongly urge you to seek the guidance of a psychiatrist. Once you start talking these things out and getting them out into the open, everything will be easier. As you learn to clearly identify the things that are bothering you, you'll feel more in control, because you will be. Then you can start to examine the core beliefs you hold that are at the root of these things you're dealing with. The mind is resilient. Even if you can't find a psychiatrist, anyone you can be honest with and confide in without fear of judgment will be a big help.

Here's something that may be helpful to you. I became aware of it some years ago, and it is a very powerful tool. It is an objective, widely-circulated, and, most important--true list of the most common ways in which people's view of things become distorted and skewed towards the negative. And this isn't some new-age Dr. Phil crap; it's been around for many years and is well-known among cognitive therapists. I hope it helps. If it doesn't, then toss it.




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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5519957 - 04/16/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You just need girl(s).


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5520008 - 04/16/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hey man what these people are saying are true. I know exactly what it feels like to feel alienated from society and thinking that you bring everyone down or become overly critical of yourself or even other people. Some of this is probably due to the excessive use of dxm, but remember most of the time these "long"-term effects will wear out in a few months and you'll be back to normal, so laying off of the robo might be good for you. But remember, its mostly in your head, its all about confidence. The more you think you are being cynical the more you will tend to feel/act this way and like that other guy said, reaching adolescence is hard enough with an altered enlightened if you will) perception of things.

I can say that i've been through what you are going through. Being homeschooled all through high school was hard on me being torn from almost all social functions and when i started college and got a job where i started to interact with kids my age it was really tough to fit in and make friends especially being a very quiet person and not outgoing out all. This coupled with a 6 month love affair i had with cough syrup (probably doing it at least twice a week but i can remember at least a couple times where i tripped 3 nights in a row). Over the last few months i've almost quit dxm altogether (although i still love a good robo every now and then) and i think because of it i gained some confidence in myself and lost a lot of my insecurities and the way i was over critical of myself and others. Even now I dont have a whole lot of friends but I usually manage to get out and have a good time although i still have a hard time finding a girl that i actually like and would want to date.

But basically i think what you're going through is a phase that a lot of people go through even though most people are afraid to talk about it, but i guess doing drugs like dxm would amplify the feeling.

Another way I sometimes deal with this is fighting fire with fire. I usually have a much easier time being an outgoing and sort of funny person whenever i'm not sober (low doses of DXM or alcohol do the job for me, weed actually makes me sort of clam up and not feel like being around/talking to anyone but im sure this varies from person to person). I find it lowers a lot of your inhibitions that would normally stop you from having a good time.

Anyways hope you were able to find some consolation from this post so you can get back on track to being "normal" again.


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Limelight]
    #5520364 - 04/16/06 07:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know this sounds weird to ask...but does your friend smoke a lot of weed? I've personally never done DXM, but I did go through a phase where I did quite a bit of drugs. I began to feel similar symptoms to your friend, actually quite alike, and this got worst as I continued to smoke weed. When I quit, after a few weeks these feelings dissapated for the most part, and haven't came back now that I've started again.

To be honest, I kind of miss that mindset though. It's not like I enjoyed it at the time, I really hated it, but now that it's gone it feels like I had this intelligence that has now dissipated. I'm not sure if that was an illusion of delusion or not, but either way I'm not going to seek that mindset again.

If your friend smokes weed, you might want to ask him to take a break for a while. Actually it would probably be best to take a break from drugs all together. Drugs can form a haze over you, and even if your friend quit DXM, other drugs may be carrying those feelings forward.

So I just reccomend he stays clean for a good while, if he can manage. It can't guarantee it'll work, but it would probably be worth trying.


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Tyrone_C]
    #5520593 - 04/16/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does your friend use any other psychedelics?

I have some experience with DXM, and I can recognize the place it takes you to be a very unique one. For me it is usually filled with feelings of detachment and unexplainability. I guess the unexplainability is the edge of DXM I like, it leaves things mysterious and interesting.

Something that recently caught my attention was the noticeable after-feeling DXM gave me. For me coming down on DXM actually feels somewhat like coming up on LSA. (a drug that can make things 'more understandable' and puts you 'closer to the universe')

But because it is only 'normal reality' I'm coming back to, I have often found feelings of 'disappointment with the explainability of reality'. The way your friend describes seeing through things reminds me very much of these feelings.

I think the first and foremost 'cure' to his condition is probably giving psychological attention to himself. Simply coming to terms with the way he views the world and why will probably give him the most power over it.



HOWEVER... if the DXM itself, or rather the feelings and thoughts associated with the DXM to the point of its perceived responsibility... is forming a psychological barrier... maybe a counter-trip would help?

LSA can show you just how absolutely obvious and simple reality can be, while remaining beautiful. The come down from LSA leaves me in the opposite place of the DXM come down as well, giving reality new complexities and opacities several days after the trip.

In my absolutely un-medically-qualified opinion, a trip devoted to exploration of the problems caused by DXM could be very useful. If I were in his place this is how I would attempt to rectify the situation. I would use LSA or mushrooms (preferably LSA). I would NOT use a trip as a SUBSTITUTE for attention given to my problem before and afterward.


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5520766 - 04/16/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Girls for the most part are annoying... Their voices have so much treble it piercings your ears when they get together and start rambling on about a dress they saw or whether or not their hair looks alright, screaming over eachother to be heard (rather than you know, talking one at a time) it just pierces right through your ears. Several times I've had to ask groups of girls to either keep their voices down or just shut the hell up because I didn't give a shit about what they were talking about, and they wouldn't stop talking about it all at the same time. In my experience maybe 1 out of every 15 girls will be tolerable, and they'll usually view the other 14 girls as being annoying as hell as well. If they're stupid and annoying they're not worth being with unless it was purely to spite them...


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: StickyWater]
    #5520782 - 04/16/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

maybe you want to join the other team?


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5520828 - 04/16/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Land_Crab said:
The situation is not hopeless. Actually, there are far more people out there like you than you know. The way you tend to see yourself and the world around you has become skewed, due to the inherent difficulty in integrating significant drug experiences into your life during a key stage of development -- adolescence.
Adolescence is the time when people began to establish an identity for themselves, and learn how they relate socially to the outside world. This is a hard enough time as it is. But for a lot of us here, maybe even most of us, some pretty insane drug-induced shifts in our perception of reality really threw a monkey wrench into the whole equation. I know that's the way it worked for me.

Probably the most important thing for you to understand and acknowledge is the gap between your perception of things and the way they actually are. For example, you say that "you're weird." I'll venture that what you really mean is that you feel alienated. It's likely just "easier" for you to reconcile in your own mind to look at yourself as if you're flawed or defective.

I strongly urge you to seek the guidance of a psychiatrist. Once you start talking these things out and getting them out into the open, everything will be easier. As you learn to clearly identify the things that are bothering you, you'll feel more in control, because you will be. Then you can start to examine the core beliefs you hold that are at the root of these things you're dealing with. The mind is resilient. Even if you can't find a psychiatrist, anyone you can be honest with and confide in without fear of judgment will be a big help.

Here's something that may be helpful to you. I became aware of it some years ago, and it is a very powerful tool. It is an objective, widely-circulated, and, most important--true list of the most common ways in which people's view of things become distorted and skewed towards the negative. And this isn't some new-age Dr. Phil crap; it's been around for many years and is well-known among cognitive therapists. I hope it helps. If it doesn't, then toss it.

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(p.s. feel free to contact me if you want)




Great post. I agree with everything you've said. A positive view of life can take you places you never even imagined...


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: today mylove]
    #5520848 - 04/16/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys, my freind went home for the weekend, but I'm excited for him to come back and read all this awesome advice. I'll tell him to check it out at home if he gets a chance.

Thanks :sun:


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: StickyWater]
    #5520958 - 04/16/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've been smoking green regularly for the at least 2 months and I tend to become more irritated with people and girls in general, seeing through the head games, and sometimes playing along just to see where it leads. I went to a bar last nite and there were tons of girls.... many were really hot looking but i just didn't feel any sexual desire for them cause of the way they handled themselves. I found many had this 'holier than thou' attitude which is a total turn off. i don't give a fuck if they have an sexy body.. if i talk to them and they are stoopid then i just won't get turned on. heh, i wish i didn't care about their attitude cause then i'd definately get more girls but oh well... when i did meet a nice girl the smile she had while talking to me was priceless  :laugh:


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: chodamunky]
    #5526668 - 04/17/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've lost sex drive and interest in girls too man, from marijuana not from DXM.

At some point I just understood that I was objectifying and lusting and coveting after women, and that, for the most part, women arne't worth it. They're just people. Like guys. But with the caveat that they are "godesses" and OBJECTS and they KNOW they are objects, because they go out of their way to present themselves that way because it's how the media tells them to be, and because the guys DEMAND it because guys are turned on by them looking kind of scampy...... vicious cycle....

so yeah I mean I don't even get boners unless I'm asleep.... whenever I feel myself getting one I"m like "well what exactly are you excited about?" and I just don't generally get horny. You know I"ll be at a pool all these girls with tons of cleavage of all varieties, fine young supple bodies..... meh. All the guys? Meh. No sex drive for either gender......... strange? Yes I think it is actually but it's sort of a liberation.

I mean there is plenty of time for sex if you actually have a good relationship with a chick, otherwise what's the point of pitching a tent at every "hot" girl you see and always feeling bad becasue you're like "Man i want to bone her but I can't" it's just easier not to want to "bone" her because ..... franklly SUFFERING IS DESIRE...... cut out the desire...

but this was never something voluntary, it was something sort of thrust upon me in juxtaposition with the evils of television, complete and total confusion about religion, not being able to make an identity for myself, and thanks to DXM a week ago ---> feeling like I had become posessed by someone..... and even feeling like my dog is trying to posesses me..........

So DXM well..... now at first I would have said it's a pretty neat drug, but it isn't all that safe or good for the brain..... not to say that it's necessarily bad because there just isn't the right research out there.... but I had some mental issues floating around that raped me on DXM and it sucked ass.

I let people think for me. Always..... my religion..... loved the police.... loved the government....... model student.... then blammo wait all this is BS! But who taught me it was BS? I didn't.... a band did..... and oh wait now I realize this band is controlling what I think so boom I become posessed by one of the members and it freaks me out and now I'm afraid to listen to the band but yet inexplicably was drawn to their new single multiple multiple multiple times in one day......

and ....

so yes DXM messed me up.... I'm getting better though, this messing of my brain up led to me being open with my family, telling them all this shit, which made me feel a lot better.

I guess part of enlightenment is seeing how shallow the world can really be, but the flip side is it's also seeing how beautiful the world can be, too. He's not satisfied becasue he has a bad environment, he should go out in nature or just try and find some sort of really interesting person to converse with.... rediscover beauty.......

i don't think the DXM really has anything to do with sex drive, it just seems to be symptomatic of psychedelic knowledge.

and well the bad experience is a wakeup call that i can't lie dormant thinking "oh i should be healthy" and "oh i should be a vegetarian" and "oh i should talk to my family" should should should. now it's time to do do do.......
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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: leery11]
    #5526992 - 04/17/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There's nothing wrong with your friend.
The sooner he realizes the better.


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Jackattack]
    #5527049 - 04/17/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The Tao Te Ching

If you can talk about it,
it ain't Tao.
If it has a name,
it's just another thing.

Tao doesn't have a name.
Names are for ordinary things.

Stop wanting stuff;
it keeps you from seeing what's real.
When you want stuff,
all you see are things.

Those two sentences
mean the same thing.
Figure them out,
and you've got it made.

If you toss compliments around freely,
people will waste your time
trying to impress you.
If you give things too much value,
you're going to get ripped off.
If you try to please people,
you'll just make them pissed.

The Master leads
by clearing the crap
out of people's heads
and opening their hearts.
He lowers their aspirations
and makes them suck in their guts.

He shows you how to forget
what you know and what you want,
so nobody can push you around.
If you think you've got the answers,
he'll mess with your head.

Stop doing stuff all the time,
and watch what happens.

Tao is an eternal mystery,
and everything starts with Tao.

Everybody has Tao in them.
They just have to use it.

Tao never stops. Why?
Because it isn't trying to accomplish anything.

The Masters hang back.
That's why they're ahead of the game.

They don't hang on to things.
That's how they manage to keep them.

They don't worry
about what they can't control.
That's why they're always satisfied.

There's more than this but if he's interested he should look it up.


Edited by Jackattack (04/17/06 09:24 PM)


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Re: Perma-fucked by drugs :( Help [Re: Jackattack]
    #5527391 - 04/17/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yah i felt the sick darkness come into my life not long ago, but i realized demons are so shallow... you can tear them or just sidestep and see them for what they are...

'you can never turn your back on the real deal...stop acting like you can'

thats what id say to ur pal! Don't Worry, Be Happy!


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