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How do I make Pharm grade kanna?
    #5516149 - 04/14/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

iv been trying ot figure this out for a couple years now. I have a few good sized plants, I have even been known to throw some out because I dont enjoy the tea very much.

I know of the preperation where you ferment the full crushed plant in a plastic bag for 48 hours and then dry it.
I have a feeling that you do some sort of extraction after this.

If anyone can help at all itd be greatly appreciated.


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Re: How do I make Pharm grade kanna? [Re: Legoulash]
    #5516316 - 04/14/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

not sure, maybe you find this useful
edit: its seems to me that it may not be necesarry to do an extraction after fermenting the plant material.


From: [Email]sagemansd@...[/Email]
Date: Thu Aug 30, 2001 2:32 pm
Subject: preparation of plant to powder - Important ! [Email]sagemansd@...[/Email]
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I have been looking to prepare this herb and have sent this Question
all over:

"I plan to make a product like what is sold. Do you know how this is
done,as I have noticed that the product is sold as Sceletium
tortuosum 'Fermented and powdered'.
Had i not read that i would have just dried and powdered .what do i
needto do to prepare it properly if anything?"

I received two gracious reponses- see below

Preparation drying
1.The plant contains a quantity of oxalic acid, which causes some
distress in humans. Other plants containing this can cause chemical
burns on the portions of the body involved in the ingesting (ie
mouth, throat, whatever). I presume that same would be true of
Sceletium spp.
Fermenting allows for decomposition of the oxalic acids, as does
heating. Traditionally oxalic acid containing foods were often
leached of their offending compounds in water, though this alone is
never sufficient. Very, very thorough drying is suppossedly
sufficient to destroy the oxalic compounds, but I have to speak with
anyone who has managed to make such a food substance safe to eat by
drying alone.
Drying (VERY thoroughly) and then heating seems to work if one is
diligent enough.
I cannot comment on how the fermentation process may alter the active
ingredient profile of Sceletium spp. I simply do not know. Heating
the powder seems to have no harmful effect.

2. Yeah, you need to break down the oxalates in the leaves. This can
be done by placing a whole bunch of fresh leaves in a pile. Since the
leaves are made up of mostly water, the leaves will eventualy break
down into a gooey mass. As this gooey mass of leaves dries, the
oxalates will be broken down. After about two weeks the material
should be dry and safe to consume.
Another way of getting rid of the oxlates in the leaves would be to
dry the leaves like you would dry salvia d. leaves etc. Once the
leaves our dry all you have to do is stick them in a 175 degree oven
for about 30 minutes. This removes all the oxalates and leaves you
with dried leaves that can be powdered and consumed. Oxaltes cause
kidney stones and limit the absorption of calcium and magnesium in
your body. Knowing this, I wouldn't advise consuming sceletium
wihtout removing the oxaltes first. Although it can't be that
harmfull as spinach contains 645mg of oxalte per 100 gram serving.
Although, I would not attempt to snort sceletium that has not had the
oxalates removed as that would cause extreme discomfort.


Edited by giz (04/14/06 03:10 PM)


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Re: How do I make Pharm grade kanna? [Re: giz]
    #5516570 - 04/14/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

. likely from a older plant and proccessed properly is what pharm grade is. or from a a certain cultivar which has higher alkaloid content.


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