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OfflineRedNucleus
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Jesus died at 3, my mom said
    #5516007 - 04/14/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Dude he sure dies every year. That must suck.

Go to S&P and stop being so boring you effers.


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Re: Jesus died at 3, my mom said [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5516037 - 04/14/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Eh I used to post in S&P, but its all so similar to me now there. Its either some guy claiming some shit, where I cant convince him that his shit makes 0 sense, even though Ill lay it out scientifically. Or its just some guy going, oh but you cant know anything! Or some guy arguing over some existence question, frankly I mostly find that forum to be like the stereotypical quasi-intellectual in a woody allen movie.


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Re: Jesus died at 3, my mom said [Re: TheCow]
    #5516044 - 04/14/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

true but there are a lot of sensible people there nowadays as well. someone convinced me yesterday that free will does not exist, using a solid argument.


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Re: Jesus died at 3, my mom said [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5516053 - 04/14/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

DId he try and seperate human consciousness from the rest of the brain? The problem with those arguments is they try and claim the following, every moment is just the sum of the past moments. So you dont really have freewill because everything is decided. But this argument seperates the human consciousness from the rest of the brain. The way your brain interprets the world, and all events, is part of your consciousness. And since every brain interprets things differently, even minutely, even if everything is the sum of past events, the way your brain interprets those things is free will. Because it is unique to you, and since your entire brain is part of your consciousness, even if you cant consciously choose things, it is still decided in your brain which is a part of you.


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Re: Jesus died at 3, my mom said [Re: TheCow]
    #5516101 - 04/14/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

To answer your first sentence, no. He took the same position my physiology textbook takes. What he did was break it down so that the crucial point of the argument against free will was finally apparent to me. The thread title is vague but it's recent.

To answer the rest of your post, you use a different definition of free will than I have in my mind. When you said, "the way your brain interprets those things is free will," I thought, "No."


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Re: Jesus died at 3, my mom said [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5516112 - 04/14/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

God is the Light


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Re: Jesus died at 3, my mom said [Re: Basilides]
    #5516118 - 04/14/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The light is not God


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Re: Jesus died at 3, my mom said [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5516125 - 04/14/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I looked for the post, but the post entitled free will contains no explanations.


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Re: Jesus died at 3, my mom said [Re: TheCow]
    #5516234 - 04/14/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah realy vague title. sorry i didnt fetch it. I thought you werent interested. here Free Will Thread


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Re: Jesus died at 3, my mom said [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5516261 - 04/14/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Cool ill check this out later, as im in a lab right now


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