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OfflineXimp
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Re: Attic setup [Re: cappa]
    #5516692 - 04/14/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hi cappa.......that is completely irrelevant.


Dear douchebags,

When i created this thread it was to discuss how and ways to create a year-round grow in an attic, not an easy thing. Posts saying to give up, grow somewhere else, and for my friend to respect his mother has absolutely NOTHING to do with what i was saying or am asking for advice on. - Love ximp


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Re: Attic setup [Re: Ximp]
    #5516731 - 04/14/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Ximp said:
Hi cappa.......that is completely irrelevant.




he has a point. and although it may not be relevant to your topic, its def relevant to the subject.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: futurewolf42o]
    #5517029 - 04/14/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

in fact it is quite relevent. you see growing on property you don't own is lame. also you have shown you shouldn't even be growing.

however what is most relevent was the usefull information given. cooling an attic is not smart, efficient or realistic. why would you make life hard for yourself? start somewhere where you don't have to deal with such a problem just to get to ground zero and start growing.

closet stealth grow.

now, wait a few years till you get your own place, come back with a better attidude and then get growing


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Re: Attic setup [Re: skeletor]
    #5517491 - 04/14/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ximp i don't care if you waste your time trying this but i am trying to help. No way you can do cool an attic down without a fresh air source, lots of it, money and time. combine all these things and guess what, dude's mom knows somethings up in the attic? why not spend this energy and determination on finding a new idea of where to grow. there has to be some other options.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: maxpower210]
    #5518030 - 04/15/06 05:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"growing on property you don't own is lame"

"now, wait a few years till you get your own place, come back with a better attidude and then get growing "

From what I took from that, a friend I know should not be growing in the house that he rents...it's going to be a LONG time before he can buy a house and own the ground he stands on and even then the bank will probably own it, perhaps you mean "property you pay for?", or should all shroomery members be home owners?

at any rate, I will try to be somewhat useful for this guys original question because it might help someone else even though I dont agree with using gobs or your mothers electricity without permission.

Here are some vague general ideas that I think could, maybe, have remote possibility of working for a year round attic solution. Keep in mind my friend hasnt even goten to fruting his shrooms yet but he has the inate ability to use a search engine, he's very gifted you should meet him sometime. =)

Now how do you get FAE in an attic with no windows?
simple, dont

from http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/7992
you can use K2Cr2O7 for humidty (or something along those lines) and you can use potassium hydroxide to rid your FC of c02, it's all outlined at the link check it out for a possible closed exhaust FC. Now what does this mean? well my good sir you wont have to make any holes in that mini fridge you were thinking about, if your really serious about this and put some time, money, and effort you can possibly build a FC inside a mini fridge that has no access to outside air, and for lights....battery powered push lights?

I dunno im a noob in this forum so far feel free to bash my vague suggestion, im actually really not sure if it's even remotely plausible to grow shrooms without new air, but in a thread I posted a while ago I suggested using technology divers use called "rebreathers" which is a way to filter c02 and have divers continually breath the same air without a tank, I have an incling this technology could work with shrooms as well eliminating the need to grow with FAE thus nearly eliminating contams during the FC stage. But what do I know, actually i'd really like someone to comment on that idea I have no idea if it will work....


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Re: Attic setup [Re: MerchantP]
    #5518039 - 04/15/06 05:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

link to DIY rebreather:
http://www.atlimp.com/pend2.htm


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Re: Attic setup [Re: MerchantP]
    #5518155 - 04/15/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Attic setup [Re: Hippie3]
    #5518181 - 04/15/06 07:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I was thinking a swamp cooler, but I threw that out because I dont think he wants to be constantly changing water etc. if it's in an attic.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: MerchantP]
    #5518277 - 04/15/06 08:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

it's going to cost just as much to efficiently prepare an attic as it would to rent your own place and grow there.

you're going to need to find a way to get clean/cool air into your attic. none of us here can actually go INTO your attic and find out for you. If you want ideas, we've given you the best ones we can. You're just going to have to work with what you have.

Don't get on here talking shit when someone took the time to respond and help you out. That's a quick way to get banned.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: MerchantP]
    #5518298 - 04/15/06 08:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

MerchantP said:
"growing on property you don't own is lame"

"now, wait a few years till you get your own place, come back with a better attidude and then get growing "

From what I took from that, a friend I know should not be growing in the house that he rents...it's going to be a LONG time before he can buy a house and own the ground he stands on and even then the bank will probably own it, perhaps you mean "property you pay for?", or should all shroomery members be home owners?




Its about respect. If he got busted, his mom could be charged as-well. If you are renting a house and get busted they aren't going to hold the property owners responsible, they will hold you responsible.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: Ximp]
    #5518340 - 04/15/06 09:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Ximp said:
Hi cappa.......that is completely irrelevant.


Dear douchebags,

When i created this thread it was to discuss how and ways to create a year-round grow in an attic, not an easy thing. Posts saying to give up, grow somewhere else, and for my friend to respect his mother has absolutely NOTHING to do with what i was saying or am asking for advice on. - Love ximp




Dude, listen to what people have to say and be grateful for it. These people know what they're talking about. I have a lot of respect for people who know more than me, and I've found out the hard way not to disregard their advice.

That being said, how about doing a few pf jars in-vitro? That should get you and your friend a few good doses. Unless your intent is to deal, in which case I hope you like prison food and showering next to other guys.

Have fun!


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Re: Attic setup [Re: Ximp]
    #5518868 - 04/15/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You could setup a AC unit if it was over something like a "flood table" to catch the water that is going to be sucked out of the air. You will need to run a hose from the "flood table" to a spot the water can drain. I have an attic and this is prolly what I would do if I didn't have enough grow spots in my house.

Using an AC unit and not a fridge would be easy, temp control and all. If you don't understand what I'm talking about say something I will draw up a diagram in photoshop.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: Fungi_x]
    #5518911 - 04/15/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hahaha you guys are getting really into this...... :grin:


Thank you to those that actually posted something relevant.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: Ximp]
    #5519178 - 04/15/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Everyone posted something relevent. You just refuse to see it.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: cappa]
    #5519228 - 04/15/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

a air conditioner will heat your attic if the exhaust is just blowing inside, so if you get the heat from the exist outside somehow you will still need to get rid of the water that it pulls from the air. but if you grow inside that fridge that you have in mind, i think it would work good. might be a little cramped, and i dont think that type of fridge takes much power to run. but you probley will need a thermostat. peace-out


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Re: Attic setup [Re: shambler]
    #5519330 - 04/15/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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shambler said:
a air conditioner will heat your attic if the exhaust is just blowing inside,





I have setup a AC unit in my bedroom just as I described and it did cool the air allot. I think allot of the heat energy may go with the water. I wish I could find some text's on this tho :frown:


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Re: Attic setup [Re: Fungi_x]
    #5519345 - 04/15/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There is generally no insulation in attics though. I had a rodent get into my attic and knock some ducting lose from one of my ceiling vents. Needless to say my electricity bill more than doubled for 3 months until I figured out what had happened, close to a $200 increase per month.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: darkfly]
    #5519379 - 04/15/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i think mommy would notice a 300 buck increase.


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Re: Attic setup [Re: Fungi_x]
    #5520283 - 04/16/06 06:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Fungi_x said:. I think allot of the heat energy may go with the water. I wish I could find some text's on this tho :frown:




you are correct.
basic principle of physics
called latent heat of evaporation-
it's the principle behind all forms of air conditioning,
evaporative or HVAC.
in essence when matter changes state,
from liquid to a gas,
it sucks in large amounts of heat from surroundings.


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