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InvisibleAlex213
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Why hasn't Bush been hanged?
    #5511081 - 04/13/06 03:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

At Nuremberg German leaders were hanged for ?the planning, preparation, initiation, or waging of a war of aggression?.

George Bush planned and initiated a war of aggression in Iraq. Same crime so why wasn't Bush hanged like his German counterparts?


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Alex213]
    #5511108 - 04/13/06 04:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Haha, that reminds me of what Noam Chomsky said about TV news.

It was along these lines: If I'm on the TV news and I say we need a stronger military to defend ourselves against foreign threats [or any other often-heard and 'acceptable' statement], that's all right, I can say it in 2 minutes. But if I say: "If we applied the standards of the Nuremberg trial to the US, every president since WWII should be hanged", it's going to take me a lot more than the 2 minutes allowed to explain what I mean.  :grin:


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Alex213]
    #5511550 - 04/13/06 09:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Bush should be hanged for authorizing a leak of classified information. That's treason in my book.


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: daimyo]
    #5511597 - 04/13/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So we all agree that Bush should be hung.  :thumbup:


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Alex213]
    #5511684 - 04/13/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There was no international law at the time of the Nuremburg trials. The only reason they were held is so that the change from Nazi to Allied rule over Germany would have an air of legitimacy.


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5511890 - 04/13/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well then, let's hope they give the next regime change the same air of legitimacy...  :grin:


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Aldous]
    #5511956 - 04/13/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Aldous said:
Well then, let's hope they give the next regime change the same air of legitimacy...  :grin:



We already have that.  It's called an election.


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Alex213]
    #5511979 - 04/13/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think the real question is: Why isn't Bush shot at every day of the week?

Is the world a much safer place, and humanity less evil than alleged..
Or...
Is there a secret police that is so thorough that none of these numerous attempts on the President's life have a chance to surface to public awareness?

I think that's the real question. What we are seeing (or rather: not seeing) is completely improbable from a statistic point of view.
That's the thought that got me thinking there might be more than meets the eye.


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Asante]
    #5511997 - 04/13/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

If there was an assassination attempt, odds are it woould be during a public outing. Something like that would be near impossible to cover up.


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5512009 - 04/13/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I was talking about regime change, not a mere change of the ruling party.

It's long overdue...


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5512011 - 04/13/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Like tossing a grenade while at an old soviet republic or something....


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Alex213]
    #5512015 - 04/13/06 11:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Alex213 said:
At Nuremberg German leaders were hanged for ?the planning, preparation, initiation, or waging of a war of aggression?.

George Bush planned and initiated a war of aggression in Iraq. Same crime so why wasn't Bush hanged like his German counterparts?


Obviously because america is (so far) the victors. If/when the jihads take over america, then he probably will be, if he is still alive by then.


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: DieCommie]
    #5512202 - 04/13/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alex213 Stated:George Bush planned and initiated a war of aggression in Iraq. Same crime so why wasn't Bush hanged like his German counterparts?


To say that the Iraq war is similar to the atrocities of World War 2 is baseless. To even compare the two is foolhardily. For you to imply that American Officers are committing genocide, or allowing it to take place is disgusting.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/meetthedefendants.html

The above men encompass the major defendants of the trial, committed war crimes. This was an INTERNATIONAL MILITARY TRIBUNAL. The trials we just, since it was part of the LONDON AGREEMENT of 1945 and all Allied members agreed.

Since there is no evidence of conspiracy, crimes against peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity (the charges at the Nuremberg Trials) or a push to have a trail to begin with, this will remain a pipe dream for you.


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5512264 - 04/13/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

If there was an assassination attempt, odds are it woould be during a public outing. Something like that would be near impossible to cover up.




Thats the attempt. Perhaps things are snuffed out in the planning stage. We know communication media are tapped (echelon) but we don't know how efficient the information can be utilized.

But perhaps the world is a far safer place than it gets credit for :smile:


Back ontopic:

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Alex213 Stated:
George Bush planned and initiated a war of aggression in Iraq. Same crime so why wasn't Bush hanged like his German counterparts?





Thats an easy one! To quote a nazi who was tried at Nuremberg: "The winners have no war criminals"

Who was hanged for the firebombing of Dresden? Tokyo? The nuclear attacks on Heroshima and Nagasaki?
The apathy towards the concentration camps?

"The winners have no war criminals"


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Rono]
    #5512432 - 04/13/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Rono said:
So we all agree that Bush should be hung.  :thumbup:




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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Alex213]
    #5512546 - 04/13/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

because it would make dick cheney POTUS...


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Asante]
    #5512617 - 04/13/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I think that's the real question. What we are seeing (or rather: not seeing) is completely improbable from a statistic point of view.
That's the thought that got me thinking there might be more than meets the eye.



http://www.newamericancentury.org/

This is no joke Wiccan.These people are IN POWER and intend to stay there.IMO this is the fourth Reich resulting from our importation of significant policy wonks from the ww2 german war ministry.What IS apparent is that they have delusions of Empire.They have the backing of immense fiscal resources. The individual is a marketable collateral and Orwells neverending war has begun.
paranoid fucker ,eh? :confused: :grin: :wink:
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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: whiterasta]
    #5512628 - 04/13/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Enjoy your wank


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5513229 - 04/13/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Saddam Hussein will be hung and Bush will enjoy his retirement in glorious luxury.


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Re: Why hasn't Bush been hanged? [Re: Alex213]
    #5513311 - 04/13/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It's not very nice to wish death upon your fellow human brethren.


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