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BrAiN
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wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia?
#5510901 - 04/13/06 01:29 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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go to www.cnn.com and click on the video link in the headlines for "Legal but lethal?"
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hoboblues

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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: BrAiN]
#5510920 - 04/13/06 01:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: hoboblues]
#5510959 - 04/13/06 02:11 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The policy of making "unsatisfactory" stimulus illegal because it generated, and thus may hold the power to generate, a bad response doesn't warrant a viable reason for its prohibition.
Soon, there will be some sad individual whom, fed up with the excessive discomfort of temporal existence, perhaps directly caused by a girlfriend or something, will kill him/her self.
Should we make the person who he/she was distraught over illegal? No because the idea of making a person illegal is ridiculous, that said, the idea of making anything which was determined "fit" by the 'life syndicate' (i.e. a living organism) illegal is a wholly ridiculous concept.
But, everyone here already knew that. I SHALL GO PREACH TO THE MASSES.
Because we know that's effective. So when they tell me it's illegal I'll tell them to help themselves, indentify it... Surely they know what it looks like. Perhaps they'll take my Phalaris grass, too.
Of course, this will probably result in the confiscation of my physiognomy, as well, considering the trace amounts of endogenous DMT floating around inside it.
Hopefully, like an old man humbled by age, the Drug War and its supporters will one day realize how stupid the whole idea of psychoactive prohibition...
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: Herbus]
#5511002 - 04/13/06 02:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5502663/an/0/page/0
There is a little bit on the last page about the 4 minute segment anderson cooper did on salvia.
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: Herbus]
#5511003 - 04/13/06 02:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is it just me?
Or do drug users enjoy the propoganda more than the people its directed to?
Just from what I've seen, anyway
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#5511005 - 04/13/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Don't worry about it. I think we can all safely assume that salvia will be illegal sometime in the future. If weed is illegal, ofcourse salvia 'should' be illegal, too.
So.. enjoy it while it's legal, if that's your bag. Then, when it becomes illegal, enjoy it still! Not like that ever stopped anyone.
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: The_Hobbit]
#5511007 - 04/13/06 02:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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very true.
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: BrAiN]
#5511121 - 04/13/06 04:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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one day the spirits of all these forsaken and shunned beautiful species will unite as one ominipotent and ominiscient force and destroy thier captors... i w8 for this day with eyes wide.
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Turn
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: fresh313]
#5511882 - 04/13/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah but look at the comments about his story, all of them are in favor of keeping it legal.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson...s-proposed.html
Also if you do a search for "Salvia drug" on google news, the number of anti-salvia stories popping up are increasing a ton.
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: Turn]
#5512551 - 04/13/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Salvia Divinorum is considered the world's most potent "natural" hallucinogen"
*cough*DMT*cough*
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giz
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: SleepAid]
#5512553 - 04/13/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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dmt is not more potent that salvia if you look at the dosages
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: giz]
#5512577 - 04/13/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh really?
Huh. Well, nevermind then.
*feels silly*
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: BrAiN]
#5512624 - 04/13/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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LOL LOL There's no valid connection at all but watch salvia become illegal because some random kid was nutso, even though salvia had nothing to do with it.
I haven't seen spin propaganda like that since DARE. you know they taught us that the effects of hallucinogens are that 'they make you think people are chasing you so that you jump out of windows to kill yourself.'
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: RedNucleus]
#5512645 - 04/13/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is pathetic. if anything its the parents fault. he said he would discontinue his use of salvia, and he didnt. maybe they should of disciplined him better. now look where they're at, stirring up a whole bunch of trouble among others because their dumb ass kid(a minor too), used salvia and while he was depressed and killed himself. if he was depressed, he should seek pyschiatry or something. not turn to drugs for answers. he should do some sober soul searching too, obviously his parents didnt set the right image into his head about self esteem.
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#5512844 - 04/13/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I doubt he killed himself while under the influence of Salvia. Salvia has always made me feel better the next few days. It helped my depression, even in non hullucinogenic doses. Maybe he used Salvia to self-medicate and killed himself after ge stopped and the depression came back. Just speculating...
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: giz]
#5512962 - 04/13/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
giz said: dmt is not more potent that salvia if you look at the dosages
Yep, like pure salvia a is at less than a milligram, Im pretty sure atleast.
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: Stonerguy]
#5513194 - 04/13/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm getting mine in spades between 0.5-1mg 
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: Asante]
#5513324 - 04/13/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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SalviaSpace
Edited by fresh313 (04/13/06 07:46 PM)
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: fresh313]
#5513508 - 04/13/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i cannot, for the life of me, imagine salvia being even remotely addictive. it is not an experience i care to repeat very often AT ALL.
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BrAiN
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: debianlinux]
#5513595 - 04/13/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ja well you know the media... if someone trips over a small rock on the sidewalk the headlines that night will be "ROCKS!!! THE NEW SILENT KILLER! STAY IN YOUR HOMES!! NEVER LEAVE!!! EVER!!!!"
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Boom
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: BrAiN]
#5513771 - 04/13/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, all I can say about this, is that I've never had the chance to try salvia, but I just ordered 3 grams of 10x. It'll be gone soon, I'm sure
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: Boom]
#5513886 - 04/13/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Last time I smoked 15x extract I became part of a never ending mexican sweat shop factory that made shoes for elves. Then I somehow warped into something I could only describe as the wheel of maya. It was made out of people or personalities and was kind of like the wheel like paddle on a ferry boat or a water mill. Is that fuckin normal?!?
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BrAiN
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
#5514521 - 04/14/06 12:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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" I became part of a never ending mexican sweat shop factory that made shoes for elves"
That is the funniest thing I've ever heard.
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: BrAiN]
#5518916 - 04/15/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT
http://www.nbc10.com/news/8628557/detail.html
Quote:
So, why would Chidester kill himself? His mother, Kathy Chidester, still doesn't know.
"I just kept saying, 'Why, why, why,'" Chidester said.
Brett was using a prescription acne medication that has been linked to depression. But he was also using Salvia Divinorum, a leafy hallucinogenic cousin to sage. When Chidester first found the drugs, she confronted Brett.
The kid was using a medically prescribed drug PROVEN TO CAUSE DEPRESSION, and the CNN story doesn't even fucking MENTION it.
That is such undeniably BULLSHIT reporting.
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: BrAiN]
#5519354 - 04/15/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
BrAiN said: go to www.cnn.com and click on the video link in the headlines for "Legal but lethal?"
Fucking dumb ass kid. He probably figured out what most people do. There is no God in the sense that everyone tells us. That can be pretty fucking shocking to a lot of people. "Oh fuck, this is it, there is nothing else.".
This is why I live it up and live it well. 
Fuck that stupid kid, suicide is a pussy/loser way out. I feel bad for his parents but don't blame the drugs.

Anyway, when will hbwr go on the chopping block?
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
#5519414 - 04/15/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
QuantumMeltdown said: Then I somehow warped into something I could only describe as the wheel of maya. It was made out of people or personalities and was kind of like the wheel like paddle on a ferry boat or a water mill. Is that fuckin normal?!?
Ha, that sounds eerily familar to something that happened to me. But then prompty after that the blanket I was laying on expanded in all directions into a blue infinite-plane and I freaked out trying to get out of it, prompty falling off my bed.
Shit is whack.
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Re: wanna see nutjob propaganda against salvia? [Re: freddurgan]
#5526438 - 04/17/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: ja well you know the media... if someone trips over a small rock on the sidewalk the headlines that night will be "ROCKS!!! THE NEW SILENT KILLER! STAY IN YOUR HOMES!! NEVER LEAVE!!! EVER!!!!"
DANGEROUS ROCKS ARE LURKING OUTSIDE YOUR HOME WAITING TO TRIP YOU! ARE YOUR CHILDREN IN DANGER? YES. STAY TUNED TO FIND OUT MORE.
I have a headline...... Alcohol kills teen. Government doesn't give a damn. Cigarettes kill man. Government doesn't give a damn. Marijuana doesn't kill a man. Government gives a damn. Salvia doesn't kill a man. Government gives a damn. (though i can see how it would whack you right out, it's a nutty experience)
There's a reason people don't want to reform rape laws.... THEY MAKE SENSE. Fascism is groovy man. I love the USA.
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