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Andrew47
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Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes
#5509481 - 04/12/06 07:08 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello,
Of what I've observed here everyone seems to practice the habit of "flushes," picking all the mushrooms at once when the first reach maturity. What makes me curious is why not harvest them as you wish? Very interested in this topic, as my way of doing things has always been to pick specimines based on if I want a young one or a mature one or if they are as mature as I want them to get
If anyone can explain some science behind this that'd be great
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: Andrew47]
#5509496 - 04/12/06 07:10 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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The problem is the fruit doesn't last forever, and they tend to all come at once in flushes. That's my idear about it at least.
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: Maverick]
#5509516 - 04/12/06 07:15 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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DRTMaverick said: The problem is the fruit doesn't last forever, and they tend to all come at once in flushes. That's my idear about it at least.
Oh no, I'm not talking about leaving mature fruits. I'm talking about picking them all, even when some aren't mature, and then "hoping for a better pinset next time"
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: Maverick]
#5509555 - 04/12/06 07:29 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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oooh I understand now! You have a point!
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: Maverick]
#5509870 - 04/12/06 09:05 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why would anyone pick fruits that aren't ready? Unless you're harvesting 18 wheeler loads for a commercial operation, you should have time to make several passes over each tray to only pick the fruits that are ready. Picking the entire batch of mushrooms because one or two are ready is silly. RR
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5509962 - 04/12/06 09:30 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have this issue sometimes, i'll pick a 1/2 of a flush w/ another 1/2 that will mature within 3-4 days then when thoes are ready there is another batch that will be ready in another 3-4 days... eventually this stops and i can dunk the casing. iam not sure why i get this, might produce less dry weight in the end or the same... don't really know, but it gives me more to do
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5509970 - 04/12/06 09:31 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Why would anyone pick fruits that aren't ready? Unless you're harvesting 18 wheeler loads for a commercial operation, you should have time to make several passes over each tray to only pick the fruits that are ready. Picking the entire batch of mushrooms because one or two are ready is silly. RR
Exactly my idea, but doing a lot of reading here I was under the impression the flush (pick em all at once regardless) was the standard modus operandi
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: Andrew47]
#5510079 - 04/12/06 09:51 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some people believe that by picking the first few stragglers that come up you can stimulate a better pinset, while others say to leave those early birds in place until the entire flush is ready, which causes them to puke spores everywhere. I say pick individual mushrooms as they are ready. If lots of pins are going to be damaged by picking, then simply snip with sissors or a knife as close to the substrate as you can without damaging the nearby pins. RR
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5510150 - 04/12/06 10:05 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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What happens to the remaining stem when you cut it?
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: Andrew47]
#5510569 - 04/12/06 11:27 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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The stub will just hang out there until you harvest the mushrooms around it, at which time you'll remove it also. RR
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5510890 - 04/13/06 01:23 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only reason i can think of why to do it in flushes is maybe the mycelium benefits from having a standard pin/growth/harvest cycle. That is, maybe pinning, growing, and harvesting at synchronized times save energy compared to a continal/perpetual harvest. But really, I dont know, I just play it by ear (or, more often, by sight )
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Re: Perpetual Harvest vs Flushes [Re: spud303]
#5512606 - 04/13/06 03:01 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, either way you are picking flushes, because that's how the mushroom grows. Now, you might not pick all of each flush at the exact same time, and most people don't. But with a relatively even pin set, most fruits will be ready within a few hours of each other, maybe a day or two. All fruits harvested over this period are "the first flush".
Now some people will harvest the whole flush at the exact same instant, just for convenience.
I think you are confusing the idea of the word "flush". Whenever you pick it, the first flush is a very definite set of fruitbodies that are the first to mature, and they do so before a very different set of fruit bodies which compose the second flush start to mature.
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