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Invisibletiny_rabid_birds
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quick question concerning pin initiation
    #5508703 - 04/12/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Alright, so quite often I'm an airhead and although I may know the proper procedure, things will slip my mind.  This past deed is no exception. :doh:

I've got a monotub going.  Two and a half days ago I cased it (50/50+ w/ gypsum).  I don't for the life of me know why, but after casing it I turned on the light cycle, without giving it any time for the casing layer to colonize.  Only moments ago did it randomly occur to me that I had done this, so I quickly turned it off.  I peeked in on the casing and goddamnit, low-and-behold there were three mushrooms growing from the edges.  They were about 2-3 inches long and nowhere near maturation.  I harvested them immediately, and was somewhat saddened that I had to do so because I could tell they were going to grow up to be big, thick, meaty mushrooms.  I also made sure to patch the casing layer where the myc had poked through and to the edges from whence the mushrooms grew.

The thing is, there's still barely any mycelium whatsoever showing through the casing layer.  I made this casing layer relatively thick (nearly 1/2" to a 3" substrate), to experiment a bit and because of a discussion with Anno a while back.

Now I'm terrified that I may have fucked up the pinset for the entire lifetime of this casing, which would upset me horribly considering it's like 8-10 lbs of poo/coir, the only grow I've got going at the time, and would be to most depressing waste of time and substrate.

Is there any hope for still achieving a decent pinset?  Would you say I took the right actions of harvesting and patching?  Any other advice?

Thanks in advance for any advice.


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Invisiblemusher_420
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Re: quick question concerning pin initiation [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5508835 - 04/12/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have never been in your situation but I have tried re-casing and incubating after my first flush.

if you just remove all the pins that have formed and mist it well then place it back into the dark incubating conditions for a few more days. I am confident that your casing layer will still colonize. It would seem to me that you saw pins around the edges because the casing layer was perhaps thin there (it tends to be for me I dunno why).

I know they say all your pin sets are created in the initial pinset...well I have had BETTER second pin sets then firsts. And I believe I have also seen pics of that occurring from other members here.


My belief is that pin sets don't make that large of a difference in your final yield. I believe that the biggest difference is that rate at which you get your yield. Like you will get your final weight after say 4 weeks of fruiting rather then 6-8. If that makes sense. My logic being, the mushrooms are created by the nutrients in the substrate. No mater how quickly the mushrooms are being created there is still that same nutrient base. Lager pin sets would mean the nutrient base is simply used up faster. Sure there are more variables to consider but it makes perfect logical sense to me.

Just my theory. Either way you got yourself an experiment. Live and learn.


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Re: quick question concerning pin initiation [Re: musher_420]
    #5508943 - 04/12/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hey tiny,
i agree. i think you will be fine.
i have read a post with some questions pertaining to this a few weeks back.
the question was do i pick the early mushrooms so that the other pins have a chance to mature?
and the advise i recall that was given was to go ahead and pick them.
the reason being that the early bloomers, though large, take alot out of the mycelium.
the pin set will be more even if they are not allowed to mature.
now i don't know as much as the rest of you out here. but that makes sense to me.
i had a grow that was kinda like this.
the early bloomers were allowed to mature. and consequently the later flushes were small.
but oh my god were those bad boys big!
i wish i knew then what i know now.
don't we all.
good luck bro.


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Re: quick question concerning pin initiation [Re: Swan Song]
    #5509146 - 04/12/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Goddamnit fucking hell son of a bitch. Like it even matters now. I just saw a bit of green. Fucking shit. In a vain attempt to try to salvage something out of this bigass casing I cut out a huge section of it, extending a good inch or more beyond where the green was, but I'm sure it'll be all for naught. It's probably mold-spore ladened by now anyways.

There was so much fucking potential too. Goddamnit this is such a huge disappointment. Oh well. I've got a break coming up at the end of this week. I suppose I'll work on getting a few other projects started. I've gotta act fast if I want to be ensured a nice stockpile for bonnaroo.


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