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wingo
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ID please (pics)
#5508224 - 04/12/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi all, i usually buy psilocybe and stropharia cubensis to the same person, who grows them himself at home. Never had a problem...but i just noticed that one of the mushrooms he gave me has cream-yellow spores (gills)..unlike the rest of them, that are brown-black. I want to know if it means anything...maybe this is a dangerous mushroom that somehow got into the habitat of the psilocybes. Maybe i'm talking nonsenses, but i want to be safe. Here are the pics, i hope you can help me. The 'suspicious' one is the one at the left (the other 3 mushrooms are for reference only), thanks in advance!



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Edited by wingo (04/12/06 01:52 PM)
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eris
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Re: ID please (pics) [Re: wingo]
#5508270 - 04/12/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is very hard to identify dried mushrooms - and in most cases not possible.
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one of the mushrooms he gave me has cream-yellow spores
How were you able to determine the spore color? Did they come fresh or something? I can see that the gill color looks "cream-yellow" on some of them, so I assume you mean gills. Spores are microscopic but can be seen in mass deposit in the form of a spore print, which is used in identification. Cultivated mushrooms can come in may forms and color. I've been looking at tons of cultivated pics of cubensis on here for years - and they can be quite variable, especially in gill color.
I see some things in your pics that look consistent with cubensis, but then again there's really not enough to eliminate other possibilities.
One important thing that I don't notice is bluing. Nothing significant enough to show up on my monitor anyway. Were there any shades of blue on the stems or caps anywhere on those specimens?
If I were you, I wouldn't eat them until I could be more sure of what they are. Did you talk to the guy about it at all?
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eris
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Re: ID please (pics) [Re: wingo]
#5508434 - 04/12/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also I might add that if those specimens were really cultivated in the same case or cake, it would seem almost impossible for a different (yet similar looking) mushroom to pop up in there. Aggressive species like coprinus have been known to pop up as a contaminant, but obviously that is not a coprinus. To have a contaminant species show up out of nowhere that looks like that would seem pretty crazy. There are all kinds of things that could make gills be lighter in one specimen that the others. Immature harvested specimens can have lighter gills than if they were given time to fully mature. Keep in mind that size has nothing to do with maturity. It can be big, but at the same time not fully mature.
I've seen all kinds of posts about spore-less or albino specimens. And all of the strains out there these days - there's even red gilled and spored cubes out there.
I'm not saying that any this is what happened for sure - as it is not possible for me to be sure. just throwing some more possibilities to consider out there.
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wingo
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Re: ID please (pics) [Re: eris]
#5508651 - 04/12/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi eris... yes, i meant gills, not spores. English isn't my 1st language so i often make mistakes. Sorry. They came dried. They do have blueing, but a little (you can see that in these pics if you look very carefuly. Haven't had the chance to talk to this guy, but i know he's serious and meticulous.. thank you for taking the time, cheers!
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Re: ID please (pics) [Re: wingo]
#5508666 - 04/12/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its probably a sterile mushroom, the spores are absent.
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Re: ID please (pics) [Re: wingo]
#5508679 - 04/12/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, if there is bluing on them all, (including the suspicious one) they are probably safe. It happens with grows sometimes. Some of them don't produce spores, and the gills appear lighter.
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Re: ID please (pics) [Re: eris]
#5508687 - 04/12/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its a cube for sure though, just to clarify.
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they look like cubes to me but its always unsafe to eat mushrooms that your not totally sure what they are. I do see the bluing on the stems and really theres not any cubensis look alikes that bruise blue BUT as i warned dont eat any mushies you arent sure about.
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Re: ID please (pics) [Re: phishhead]
#5508828 - 04/12/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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It could be one cube that just opened its cap and didn't make spores on the gills yet, When my caps open up the gills are that colour then turn dark browm from sproes
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wingo
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if they have blueing and, considering that i absolutely trust this guy and what he's cultivating, and that theres not any cubensis look alikes that bruise blue, i'm going to tell you guys in a short time if this little one was sterile or not. thanks to everyone who helped
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