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giz
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Question about woodchips
#5508166 - 04/12/06 01:29 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I asked this first in mushroom cultivation forum yesterday and was suggested to try ask here.
so the thing is, i dont have access to ready availble woodhips in any store near here (ive checked everyone of them) but i do own a forrest with alot of diffrent woods but mostly its Downy Birch ( (B. pubescens), Rowan\moutain ash (Sorbus aucuparia), Goat Willow (Salix caprea) other than that there is Picea and Pinus spp. wich i understand is not suitable.
So my simple first question would be, wich one of these are best suited for woodchips..
ok, so when i make woodchips now in the winter )there is still snow here) should i dry the wood before i make chips of them. i belive they have more "juice" (sorry my bad english) now in the winter. i was wondering if i should use the woodchips fresh or should dry them first and than add water to regain moisture. In simple terms, what is the best way to prepare the wood on when making your own woodchips.
If these questions are unsuited in this forum i apoligize.
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shirley knott
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Re: Question about woodchips [Re: giz]
#5508457 - 04/12/06 02:52 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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can't help with the species, but woodchips are alwest best fresh and cut in the off season between growth spurts (i.e cut it october to march is best).
if i had everything at my disposal, i'd have overwintered woodchips ready to spawn in spring to freshcut chips of a hardwood (not too much resin) and plant straightaway. over the summer they'll eat wood, then when they run out and it gets cold, they may think of their future, and form carpophores to sporulate 
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Anno
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Re: Question about woodchips [Re: giz]
#5508532 - 04/12/06 03:12 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybe woodlovers(P. cyanescens, P. azurescens....) grow on any deciduous tree species woodchips, but also on Picea abies and Douglas fir.
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giz
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thanks , your replies has been most helpful.
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shymanta
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Re: Question about woodchips [Re: giz]
#5566112 - 04/28/06 07:13 AM (18 years, 25 days ago) |
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Think about it from the mushroom's point of view. You said you own a forest, look for a downed tree that has been there for a few years and has broken down to the point where you can crumble it with your hands. If I were a wood loving mushroom, that would look pretty tasty!
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shirley knott
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Re: Question about woodchips [Re: shymanta]
#5566571 - 04/28/06 10:49 AM (18 years, 25 days ago) |
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hmmm, i'm not sure about that. if it's old wood, something else will have got there first.
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shymanta
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Quote:
shirley knott said: hmmm, i'm not sure about that. if it's old wood, something else will have got there first.
Which would be proof of it nutrition. Take a bucket full and pasteurize or sterilize it and inoculate it. If you put a bucket full of thick rhyzomatic mycelium into the old tree I figure it will take over.
Check this out.
An old tree had fallen diagonally across this picture from lower left to upper right.

The same spot where I raked away the leaves and dug into the tree.

Here's some of the old tree.
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Anno
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Re: Question about woodchips [Re: shymanta]
#5569403 - 04/29/06 01:29 AM (18 years, 24 days ago) |
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Such a wood is NOT suiatable for the cultivation of psilocybe woodlovers. While some mushroom species grow on wood that has already been used by another species, psilocybe woodlovers don't.
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Re: Question about woodchips [Re: Anno]
#5570558 - 04/29/06 02:44 PM (18 years, 24 days ago) |
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The fresher the wood the better, but wood that is cut and chipped in the winter has a very high alcohol content. I recently used some of this fresh wood and it is colonizing, but only with cottony mycelium; no rhizomorphs.
If you have the capability, I would recommend soaking and drying before inoculation to reduce alcohol content.
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