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Offlinebobjones
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Getting into the industry
    #5506396 - 04/12/06 01:18 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've read that there are a couple chefs floating around here on the boards, and I'm wondering how yall got started in the industry, and how you like it.

Here in a year I'll be graduating with a finance degree, and am seriously considering working with food. But I really know no one who I can talk to on the subject.
Anyone mind answering a few questions / giving me some advice?


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: bobjones]
    #5506495 - 04/12/06 02:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I am also planning on doing somthing with food in the future. Possibly trying to open a restuarant. I have no proffessional experience, but I figure that one of the best ways to get started is to start working in a well known and established restuarant which I plan on doing this summer if I can. Im looking forward to what anyone else has to say also :cool:


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: bobjones]
    #5507066 - 04/12/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Open up the classifieds and apply to all the places hiring chefs or dishwashers. Do your job and let it be known you want to move up.

Or, go to some of the hotels and nice restaraunts in your area and talk to the chefs there. Maybe even research the best chefs in your area and go talk to them. See if they need any help, or if they'd be willing to take on an apprentice. Obviously you will need to have some skill to start with.


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: bobjones]
    #5507319 - 04/12/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

All I know is that to open and manage a restaraunt is hard freakin' work, like 70-80 hours a week. If you know nothing about running a restaraunt, you are either going to need to work in several different kitchens to get a feel of how they are run, or find a couple good managers/chefs who will do all that hard work and you supply the capital and vision. Good luck, man!


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: ToolTroll]
    #5507652 - 04/12/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ive been researching Catering Trucks.

$88,000 buys you a brand new mobile catering bus with EVERYTHING!  Even a Bose Speaker system and 50" plasma screen built in for customers to watch while they wait.  Thats the one I want.

No Tacos from my truck though.  I would sell quality In and Out style burgers/fries, chicken burgers, salads and teriaki bowls.  Oooh and sandwhiches, nothing special but good samiches for a good price and the special steamed pastrami brisket samich will make people line up round the block.

Im telling ya, I am real close to doing this.  Ive writen half a business plan and shoped around for loan prices. 

Buttttttt  Im a coward when it comes to big financial risks.  Especially ones that make me have to give up all my medical benefits and rely on myself for retirement income.

Maby some day :confused:



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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: GabbaDj]
    #5507717 - 04/12/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That's something I've been considering for a few months too. There's not many(one that I know of) food trucks around here, and there's a lot of places that could use one. You got a link to the truck with the TV?


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: daimyo]
    #5512876 - 04/13/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Going about to all the industrial parks and small businesses(at least in my area) someone could easily clean up(financially)with the 'food truck' idea.

A good food truck is something greatly lacking.....where i work there are no fast food joints that aren't a little out of the way..Carry out at most restaurants is a pain...Pizza delivery is the only other competition,.....so for a truck to come around on lunch hours would be a great fucking thing and would for sure get lots of business.


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: Schwip]
    #5515848 - 04/14/06 12:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

My mother owns a resturant. She never went to school and started it from scratch.


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: bobjones]
    #5524978 - 04/17/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I started young, since age 11 I knew I wanted to become a chef. I took vocational classes during high school and eventually attended a prestigious cooking school where I got a bachelors in culinary arts. I then sought only the finest restaurants where I knew I could get good experience, technique and was able to work with some outstanding products and equipment. Let me tell you now that the food industry is very cut throat. You work long hours, you will rarely have a social life outside from your co-workers and most chefs/cooks are egotistical assholes who love to break you down. It's also one of the businesses prone to failure as something like 80% of new restaurants close within the first year. It takes dedication to your craft and an inherent sense that food is much more than sustinance, people go to restaurants for many reasons and you have to make sure those reasons are in place for them to enjoy. Although it is very difficult I like it because it's the only career that is both an art form and a craft. An architect's sketches will take several years for his/her creation to be realized whereas a chef's creations are immediatley gratifying. To be able to take something that was merely edible and turn it into a gustatory delight in mere moments is what I so like about it. Of course, I have avoided large chains and hotels and have concentrated my career in fine dining, haute cuisine, new nouvelle, etc, type food. I travel constantly, mostly to Europe (France and Spain especially) to get ideas and learn technique as most of Europe is far ahead of the US in terms of product quality, availablitly and appreciation for good food without regard towards industrial farming and maximizing farming output at the cost of quality. Foremost, you must love what you do and have a passion for food if you truly want to succeed in the industry. 

Hope this helps


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: soochi]
    #5526174 - 04/17/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Brilliant! :laugh:


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: geokills]
    #5529549 - 04/18/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Nobody would fucking believe me if I told you stories.

My job now? I bring a case of beer for myself and two co-workers to drink each day. They have to have it since they are crack addicts and it's the only thing that soothes their nerves. I need it to lessen the strain of constant adrenaline and uncertainty, constant pressure from the owners, and so on. I only quit weed last week, again, for the umpteenth time. Haha, some people sneak a fucking joint sometime during their shift. I would smoke five-ten times during a shift just to get through. Every shift. I would get so fucked up. But I was always a really good maintainer. Nobody ever even suspected a thing. Though the owner knew I was bringing beer. Hey, it's post-Katrina mother fucking time here in NOLA and so fuck em all. I get the job done. Nobody will eat better Creole than I can cook. Fucked all up like a chain-ganged whore, or not...

I have this deadpan face which gives away nothing....nothing....

But that's all besides the point...which is....you have to love the sickening sensation of dropping twenty feet, or the joy of sudden depressurization and slight bends....you have to be a bitch who likes a stretched wide hole and lots of partners because you will get fucked by every single boss you ever have...unless of course you're one of those factory made CIA roll outs, as common as croissants from a box....


I could go on...why...I have already...just read almost anything I have written in this cuisine forum...I ain't lying....You aint' seen nothing....nothing....and even when you have....it starts all over again from the other side....as steady as getting tossed in huge waves, as surely as drowning swimming against the tide in long pants, shoes and long sleeve shirt. You cannot win in this profession. you simply cannot.

On the other hand, at least you'll be an artist, and people will ingest your blood, sweat and tears literally. It's gratifying to have a profession that isn't as boring to talk about as taking a shit....

Everybody likes to cook. the only problem is that everybody thinks they know how too.

So you'll be training people against their mother's directions and just when you think they got it down, they'll forget, you'll fucking rip your hair out and scream at them and they'll threaten your life and you'll walk around after work with a knife for awhile until they cool down again. Because they'll be packin heat, since they're drug dealers, pimps, gamblers, hustlers, and every other sort of common criminal who needs some excuse to maintain parole...

And pretty soon, in spite of your degrees and high faluting ideas you'll tire out too and say fuck it. Or not. Maybe you'll find a good chemical balance and be able to maintain past the seven year burn out.

It's not for me to say.... But there's a certain joy in getting fucking blitzed on the job, listening to heavy metal, cranking out dishes with fine product and great savoir faire.... until you crash and burn again and curse your boss or sock him in the face....

Down the line your resume is just a collection of disjointed facts that you made up because none of your references will pan out. you may as well never have worked at those three true five star restaurants, as their fucking saucier....

Don't worry about fucking the wife. You won't have the energy. You'll know you have a good job when you threaten the boss and demand a few hundred bucks kudos - or else - and they'll give it up.... It's a good job when you can get away with some radio, some booze, some weed, some good conversation, some good cooks, some good


Ah fuck it...I wrote enough already...ten times or more....


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: eve69]
    #5529575 - 04/18/06 01:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Anyway, you can PM me if you dare.... If you want to be a chef you better start young because past fifty and it will be like walking with a leg attached to a hemmoroid, all pain all the time...


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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: eve69]
    #5529587 - 04/18/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Getting into the industry [Re: soochi]
    #5535680 - 04/19/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yes I smoke a lot of weed (most people would never guess), three people would be dead right now if I didn't, hey it's fuckin' stressful, the industry is notorious for drug addicts, alcoholics, abusers of all types and overall debauchery. but don't get too caught up in that, I find most people who do become hacks who should just give up and take a job at the cheesecake factory or become full of themsleves and complacent in that they "know everything." when in fact there are pre-teens working in Michelin starred restaurants in France that would put most "chefs" to shame. It's sad that this profession attracts so much human garbage, although it has gotten consierably better in recent years thanks to the whole celebrity chef syndrome, in the states at least most food service jobs are not highly regarded like they are across the atlantic. Hoping it gets better, it's the main reason I stick with fine dining establishments. at least there, the drug addicts can also tourne vegetables with the best of them.


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