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Lc air exchange question
    #5505273 - 04/11/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So eh how necessary is it to have some kinda filtering device for the air exchange one a LC? Im outa money, and I dont have any tyvek filters or anything and im gana makes some LC real soon here so.. whats the straight dope? will a few air holes get contaminated?

oh and another question, why are you so ugly.


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: koontar]
    #5505322 - 04/11/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)


Micropore tape - $1.77 at Wal-M**T.

If worse comes to worst, tear open a teddy bear or pillow and use some of the poly-fill (polyester pillow stuffing).


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: Premedman1]
    #5505349 - 04/11/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I love micropore tape it works great!

tyvek is free for people in the US btw


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: Babo911]
    #5505367 - 04/11/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I noticed that pic^^^^


yeah that's the stuff :wink:


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5505444 - 04/11/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

thanks man I will pick that up tomorrow

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tyvek is free for people in the US btw"

explain? wtf is tyvek anyways, its a filter right? what micron is it rated.

and what about the ugly thing.. you are all killin me here.. :smile:


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: koontar]
    #5505602 - 04/11/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

free as in,  click here, add to cart anywhere from 10 to 500, and note the charge is $0.00 to have them delivered right to your door.  :laugh:  Or pick them up right at the post office.  Of course it is a federal offense to use mail supplies for anything other than mailing with, and I don't condone breaking the law!

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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: creamcorn]
    #5505827 - 04/11/06 09:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Micropore tape is like 1.20 USD per unit. So you're looking at a maximum investment of fractions of a penny/jar(LC). It is commonly found where bandaids are found.

Tyvek is a PITA IMO. I don't do PF, so maybe that's where it comes in really handy.. I dunno.

Some people say no air exchange is neccessary. I say 'You need a place to inoculate and draw myc through anyways right?'

Self sealing injection ports are available. Also dabbing silicone on each side of a hole is another option.

But IMO neither one is as simple as sticking on a bit of tape over a hole that you put in with a small screwdriver or nail.
Seriously, it takes less than 5 seconds, provides the air exchange(needed or not), their is no cure time, no drills are needed, it gives you an inoculation and drawing point, and it works.


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: cappa]
    #5505871 - 04/11/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i have never used a jar with airexchange for lc... they always came out fine, just pc the jar and open to inoculate while in a glove box and close tight shoud be ready in like 6-8 days (at 82f)


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: cappa]
    #5505885 - 04/11/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

hey what if i just unscrew the cap periodically for air exchange, will that enable contams for sure? oh and how long before i see growth in my LC? I used 1.5 cc's of PESA in two diff bottles using the 4%honey and 95%water technique. anyways thanx!


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: Nuclear_Shroom]
    #5506258 - 04/12/06 12:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"Tyvek is a PITA IMO. I don't do PF, so maybe that's where it comes in really handy.. I dunno."

PITA?> in my opinion?

whats pita? tasty bread?

I just ordered some tyvek thanks alot for the link, is it any kind of actual filtering device? PC'able? can I use it solely for the top (under the screw-on thing) of a mason jar?

do penuts really taste better boiled?

Is there really a god??


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: koontar]
    #5506501 - 04/12/06 02:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Pain In The Ass


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: cappa]
    #5506857 - 04/12/06 06:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ive had good luck with tyvek and it looks nice. but not in LC. i use baby bottle for LC. i use tyvek on top of the metal disc but under the metal band on the canning jars i use for my wbs. it keeps the dust out of the injection hole, and allows a small amount of air exchange. plus its a nice neat white lid that looks nifty and that i can label with a sharpie.


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5507498 - 04/12/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I use no filter. Just self healing silicone ports. This allows me to shake really hard (no filter to get wet) so it aerates the LC really well and breaks up the myc well. All the oxygen is driven out of solution when a LC is boiled so if you cannot aerate it by shaking for fear of wetting the filter, you may be better off with no filter.


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: blackout]
    #5507658 - 04/12/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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blackout said:
I use no filter. Just self healing silicone ports. This allows me to shake really hard (no filter to get wet) so it aerates the LC really well and breaks up the myc well. All the oxygen is driven out of solution when a LC is boiled so if you cannot aerate it by shaking for fear of wetting the filter, you may be better off with no filter.




I use the same silicon sites on all my jars too, so ill deffinatly do that but what about the vacume? do you take the top off to let it fill up with air after PC'ing or just keep it vacume sealed... seems dumb question because the shit should need some air but idunno


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: koontar]
    #5507735 - 04/12/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You can use an "airport"/filtered syringe. A syringe with the plunger taken out and stuffed with poyfil. Then you put two silicone ports on the lid, put the filtered syringe in one and draw out with the other.

Another option is to get a larger jar, I use a 750ml jar. Only fill it with about 200ml of LC. I then microwave it with the top on loosely and let it cool in the microwave without opening the door. This means it cools and draws in hopefully clean air from the microwave chamber (which has just been steamed). Then I open the door when cool and tighten the lid. There is lots of air in the jar now, 550ml. I shake well to aerate and inoculate. Since there is a large volume of air in there and a low volume of LC you can draw out the LC with no real worries about the vacuum. The smaller the amount of airspace in a jar the more effect drawing liquid out has an effect on the vacuum.

In a pinch I have wetted a coffee filter, or kitchen paper towel with some bleach, held it over the jar lid and down the sides, then unscrewed it, this releases the vacuum and draws in new air through the bleached filter. Could be done in a glove box if you have one.

heres my fancy sterile manual air pump
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=4235588


I have since ditched all my filtered jar lids. One airport can serve all your jars. Making 2 holes and siliconeing them is very easy work, especially compared to making 100's of jars with filters. The LCs can also be transported easily.


Edited by blackout (04/12/06 11:34 AM)


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: blackout]
    #5507781 - 04/12/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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blackout said:
I use no filter. Just self healing silicone ports. This allows me to shake really hard (no filter to get wet) so it aerates the LC really well and breaks up the myc well. All the oxygen is driven out of solution when a LC is boiled so if you cannot aerate it by shaking for fear of wetting the filter, you may be better off with no filter.




:thumbup:

I do pretty much the same thing, but I use those blue injector ports siliconed into the lid and do the whole airport bit also. I always had contam problems using any kind of filter with my LC's.


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: FooMan]
    #5509921 - 04/12/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hey, I just went out and picked up some mirco poor tape... the exact one in the pic above. Condsidering its paper, is it alright to PC and get wet... will it still stick?


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: Gatorade]
    #5510869 - 04/13/06 01:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Someone search for airports in advanced myc...


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Re: Lc air exchange question [Re: Gatorade]
    #5510996 - 04/13/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Gatorade said:
Hey, I just went out and picked up some mirco poor tape... the exact one in the pic above. Condsidering its paper, is it alright to PC and get wet... will it still stick?




It will PC & stick FINE.


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