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maxpower210
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icubation and contam question
#5504833 - 04/11/06 06:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i am incubating wbs at around 74-76 deg. room temp. jars are taking a bit longer but i don't mind. my fastest colonizing jar, about 90% complete is showing signs of contaim. i used an LC and could be the prob. i only inoculated one other with the same LC so we'll see if it contams. anyway is the longer colonization allowing more room for contam to move in, if so i think i am gonna have to set-up an incubator. also will i have problems pinning after i case because i am using the overnight fridge tek then back to room temp.
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Zwieback0
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Re: icubation and contam question [Re: maxpower210]
#5504869 - 04/11/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, longer colonization time = higher prob. it will contam. Get the incubator going.
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skeletor
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Re: icubation and contam question [Re: Zwieback0]
#5504989 - 04/11/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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nup. thats bs haha. longer time doesn't mean more risk of contams simply beucase the contams would also be slowed down by the colder temperature. also if you have any bad spores in your jars period you are likely scrwed and temperature woudl have nothing to do with it. look up rogger rapids post from a few days ago maybe a week. he wrote a big post about why people new to this hobby shouldn't even bother incubating or at least not bother unless you make a good tub. half asssing it is just asking for trouble.
also someone might have been RR wrote about how in LC's that room temperature has LESS risk then 82ish because our mushroom myc may grow faster at this temperature but some contams grow even faster then that so they get a bigger bonus from the heat.
i know you weren't talking about LC's but i thought id toss that in. as far as your question the only thing bad about the jars taking longer is that they take longer and also have more time to get some random spore inside. if you have an y sort of filter system then this won't happend and so the only problem is that the jars take a little bit longer. not more risky for contamage!
-------------------- im sorry about your mother. She was a terrible attrative woman. Get back to nature; hunting burgers and gathering fries.
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musher_420
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Re: icubation and contam question [Re: maxpower210]
#5505050 - 04/11/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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maxpower210 said: i am incubating wbs at around 74-76 deg. room temp. jars are taking a bit longer but i don't mind. my fastest colonizing jar, about 90% complete is showing signs of contaim. i used an LC and could be the prob. i only inoculated one other with the same LC so we'll see if it contams. anyway is the longer colonization allowing more room for contam to move in, if so i think i am gonna have to set-up an incubator. also will i have problems pinning after i case because i am using the overnight fridge tek then back to room temp.
What's the overnight fridge tek? If your referring to cold shocking. I advise against it. Although a temperature drop is a pinning trigger, you can get by without it. I'm going to be harvesting a mono-tub tomorrow that colonized at 65 degrees and also fruited at 65 degrees. The only pinning trigger I have used is light. Along with misting the sides of the tub. My pinset was not Lacking although there is room for improvement. So to sum that up. A temperature drop is not absolutely necessary but if your trying to achieve PERFECT pin sets it's helpful.
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Zwieback0
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Re: icubation and contam question [Re: skeletor]
#5505095 - 04/11/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Longer colonization time = more prob. for contam. (there isn't anything wrong with this logic - when it takes jars too long to colonize, there is more of a chance for outside elements to get into the jar and mess things up. Additionally, evaporation makes the cake mix dry and uncolonizeable over time, even though it takes a long time for this to happen. Other various elements also cause cakes to contam.) Get the incubator going.
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