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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Diploid]
    #5510783 - 04/13/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Diploid said:
Direct answer please:

How many houses have to fail the Paranormal Test before you will grant that there is no such thing as a Paranormal House?

A hundred?

A million?

A trillion?

Some other number?

[Note to audience: jiggy will not answer my direct, simple question because if she did, it would demonstrate that she's not after Truth, but rather validation of her beliefs.]




:lol: And like you will address my reply to your misrepresentation of me in your reply about that Mic fraud dude. :nono:

I don't work like you do Diploid. I tend to take things on a case by case basis.

So what if the first ten, thousand or million of people ate peanuts safely. Does that mean we should  conclude "peanuts are safe for ALL people present and future to eat?"

Is that how you derive the truth of something diploid?  :crazy: That's lazy and sloppy truth seeking. You're right I won't choose from your, irrelevent to my way of thinking, selection of answers.  :smirk:

Peanuts will throw some people into aniphalictic shock and kill them.

Case by case I take it. There's your answer that you can fabricate some more BS about me from. 

Trying to force someone to say something, with pre-selected options they don't agree with isn't getting to the truth of anything. It's manipulating a false truth.

Your questions integrity gets a :thumbdown:

What good is asking someone what ice cream they think is the worlds greatest, when you only give them the choice of pistachio or rocky road? You'll get an untrue answer if they think it is mint chocolate.

Fabricated questions to get the results you want to see doesn't bring anyone closer to any real truth. Your methods suck. :smile:


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5510812 - 04/13/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Still waiting for an answer to my simple, direct question...  :rolleyes:


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Diploid]
    #5510817 - 04/13/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It could be a very long research.....lol
It all depends on what you call a paranormal house...


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Shroomerious]
    #5510820 - 04/13/06 12:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

two normal houses... :smile:


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Temptress]
    #5510827 - 04/13/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:hehehe:


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Diploid]
    #5510832 - 04/13/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It's right above this reply of yours I'm replying to. Sherlock Holmes you are not.:lol: You miss evidence right under your nose.:lol: Amazing what the mind will ignore when its not the belief/answer it is are looking for, because it wants to beleive something other then the truth.  :smirk:

To answer any of the options you gave would mean my having to tell an untruth and that is no way to get to the truth.

Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong for your bogus misrepresentation of my position in the thread link you posted. :goodmorning:

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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5510888 - 04/13/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sherlock Holmes you are not.

Eh? The question requires a NUMERIC answer. Sherlock Holmes, indeed.

Quote:

How many houses have to fail the Paranormal Test before you will grant that there is no such thing as a Paranormal House?




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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Diploid]
    #5510904 - 04/13/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Then the question requires a false answer from me which I will not give. I did give my honest answer and you ignored the truth. No way to get to a true answer sherlock. Perhaps its you who doesn't care to get to the truth but rather what you want to believe by manipulating experiments to get the answers you believe in. :thumbdown:

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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5510913 - 04/13/06 01:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Then the question requires a false answer from me

The question exposes how you contradict yourself.

which I will not give.

Figures. You don't want Truth, you just want to be right.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Diploid]
    #5510943 - 04/13/06 02:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:what:

Someone genuinely seeking truth, will not blow off investigating future possibilities just because some others fell short. Someone lazy or not interested will give up pretty early on though.

Diploid, face it, this is a classic trick to drag people into places where you can make them look to contradict themselves. I didn't fall for it. I've seen you and swami pull it too many times. Deal with it. Save it for a noob.  :smirk:

You tried to get me to give a definitive numeric answer, so you would then say, I contradicted my first statement of saying I would take it on a case by case basis.

I didn't fall for it, and now you are frustrated that you didn't get to pull off your tired old manipulation trick, so you decide to just post that I contradicted myself anyway. :lol:

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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5510968 - 04/13/06 02:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

[gettinjiggywithit said:

Someone genuinely seeking truth, will not blow off investigating future possibilities just because some others fell short. Someone lazy or not interested will give up pretty early on though.





I want to expansiate on that. Say an archaeologist is assigned to work on Darwin's Theory. Say he gets ten, 20, 100 requests to come look at new discoveries people think may be missing links. If they all turn out to be Hoax's does he stop investing future claims?

NO! Not if he is committed to finding the possible truth of something people want answers for. One of them may turn out to be authentic and a revolutionary discovery.

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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5512808 - 04/13/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I am not sure if diploid is asking for the number. Is it for a practical or theoretical reason? For a theoretical reason it makes no sense asking for the number because there will always be the chance that the next house will be haunted. But for a practical reason and stable conditions(our todays technology for example) there should always be a limit. But how could jiggy know if he is not involved with the particular research? Anyway I have the feeling that as long as people say that they are aware of a possibly haunted house, our technology advancing and an answer not yet be found, there will be research about this kind of phenomenon.


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Diploid]
    #5512888 - 04/13/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

About the question you posed.

No number. Nothing can be proven not to exist. Here's another question:

Direct answer please:

How many houses have to be found to not contain Osama Bin Laden before you will grant that Osama Bin Laden no longer exists?

A hundred?

A million?

A trillion?

Some other number?


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5512909 - 04/13/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

RedNukleus said:
About the question you posed.

No number. Nothing can be proven not to exist. Here's another question:

Direct answer please:

How many houses have to be found to not contain Osama Bin Laden before you will grant that Osama Bin Laden no longer exists?

A hundred?

A million?

A trillion?

Some other number?




Nothing can be proven not to exist...Theoretically yes but practically not. We have to set some limits in our lives so we can live them! If someone asks you to open the door and you insist that there is a possibility that a black dragon will cast a fire spell on you when you open it and then refuse to open the door most people would say that you are mad. Many things are practically proven not existent. Gravity pulls you to the core of the earth and not outwards. It has been proven and the possibility that earth is working on another way is very very low since we all experience how gravity between planets and generally between two pieces of material works.


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Shroomerious]
    #5512933 - 04/13/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

No. Nothing can ever be proven false. The closest we can get is that it has never been shown to be true. That is more proper terminology for the matter of the existence of paranormal houses or black dragons. They have never been shown to exist. We can all generally agree that they are false, but we have NOT proven them false, as you said here: "Many things are practically proven not existent"


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5512955 - 04/13/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, practically but not theoretically. I think we agree! :-) I understand what you say by nothing can ever be proven false. But since with our current minds we can not understand the essence od "infinity" it is best to keep an open mind about things like you do but live our lives practically so that we can be happy and can carry some research on so that we can someday prove that the assumptions we made in order to be happy in order to research were wrong.

lol

If you are in a isolated room with a man and while you look away someone kicks you in the butt, you ask the man and he sais he didn't do it, what is his statement. It is practically absolutely false(given the dimensions we can feel etc) but theoretically keeping an open mind, anything could've happened.


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Shroomerious]
    #5512959 - 04/13/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

OK we agree. You're awesome.


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: Temptress]
    #5512979 - 04/13/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think that you need to stop worrying about what others believe.


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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5513032 - 04/13/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

RedNukleus said:
How many houses have to be found to not contain Osama Bin Laden before you will grant that Osama Bin Laden no longer exists?

Some other number?




Yes, some other number - the amount of houses in the world.

Come on now, really, let's not make fools of ourselves. :rolleyes:

Also, your question isn't logical, because it is entirely possible for Osama Bin Laden to exist, but yet not in a house.  :tongue:

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Re: questioning anothers beliefs is wrong in MRP [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5513045 - 04/13/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

haha yeah i thought of that too. So the answer is, no number is significant. He might not be in a house.


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