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Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS*
    #5503854 - 04/11/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I just went out and bought this birdfood cause i thought it would be good but i want a 2nd opinion on if it is good or not soo guys this is a great help to me..thanks...the ingredients are...
parakeet food:
White Millet,Hulled Oats, Canary grass seed
Cockatiel food:
Millet Seed, Red Millet Seed, Hulled Oats, Sunflower seed-ill take these out, Canary Seed
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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5503892 - 04/11/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Oh and btw iam using micropore tape for the jars...does anyone know if this method will work good?


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5503905 - 04/11/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

LoL thats the exact stuff that i use no sunflower seeds just straight milo and millet, and micropore works for my liquid culture I dont see why it wouldnt work for jars...


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: MindsEye]
    #5503950 - 04/11/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well iam pcing it so will the tape like melt to the jar lid??and will it be safe to remove the tape to inoculate in a sterile invironment?and iam using foomans easy soak and simmer tek...


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504007 - 04/11/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I use doc's way for my lids, works great for me. Where did you find that bird feed BTW i have heard good things about it and am wondering were people found it...


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504014 - 04/11/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i got a store called x-pect discounts by my house so i go there and get it for discounted prices...they got everykind of birdfeed there..i dont got tyvek so i cant use docs tek for my lids...has anyone ever used the easy soak and simmer tek before?
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5265629#Post5265629


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5504016 - 04/11/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I too use docs tek its the best one I have ever read, the micropore wont melt to the lid it is pc'able. And that birdseed can be found at petsmart.


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504027 - 04/11/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I used it before, no different results, i am trying a new way right now that requires 1 hr of soak and no simmering. Waiting for my PC to heat up as we speak.

tyvek is free, so get some :smile:


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: MindsEye]
    #5504036 - 04/11/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Dam you just answered my petsmart question! Any were else in particular? I use penigans or how ever you spell it, it is good, but i have heard better things about what you 2 are using :smile:


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5504051 - 04/11/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

its just less soaking rinsing, simmering, rinsing, and all that stuff you have to get the bird kote off of penningtons there are several makers that dont use any oils when making their feed.


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: MindsEye]
    #5504059 - 04/11/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Oh and btw bong toke that parakeet food you have is the better of the two, the cockateal food has sunflower seeds.


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504101 - 04/11/06 03:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah i know...i just threw the seed into the boiling water..and i didnt measure right and the fuckin water overflowed all over and shit..LOL but i sucked some water out and got the top on the pot..hopefully itll be ok...boiling water cant loose temp within 2 minutes can it?


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504118 - 04/11/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

erf, once i am done with the bird seed i have i am goiong to look for parakeet food and see what i can find at local pet shops... only 50 more PCing min left :smile:


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5504190 - 04/11/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Micropore tape owns.

1 layer before PCing, innoc., another layer over that, Done!

No tyvek, no coffee filters, no polyfill, no bullshit.

I <3 it!


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: cappa]
    #5504243 - 04/11/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Micropore tape owns.

1 layer before PCing, innoc., another layer over that, Done!

No tyvek, no coffee filters, no polyfill, no bullshit.

I <3 it!




i must try now... to bad i am Pc polly fill lids with tyvek


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5504333 - 04/11/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

cappa..do you inoc right thru the tape? then replace over it?i assume only thru 1 hole sicne its wbs and dont need inoc points..right?so 1 piuece before pc..then either move tape or stick syringe threw it??which one


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504346 - 04/11/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Punch a small hole in your lid. Put a small bead of RTV/silicone on each side. Let dry. Viola, a self-healing injection site that can easily be wiped with alcohol to sterilize the injection point.


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Premedman1]
    #5504352 - 04/11/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I inject through the first layer of tape, then simply put another piece over it at right angles. So I have an "x" on the top. That way I know which jars I've innoced and which I haven't yet.

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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504367 - 04/11/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well iam us9ing my old brf jars pint jars..so they got 4 holes so iam just covering all of them with tape and using 1 for injection site..


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504437 - 04/11/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Guys it seems like even after i strain it good and what not it seems like t heres still some water in the bottom of my wbs jars...will this water evap when i pc or should i try to get it out now?


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504493 - 04/11/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

it is recomended that you drain all water out of the jars, I just got my jars out of the PC and they are all clumped together when i try to shake my WBS... I guess i will wait till they cool down and try to shake some more... I will knock up the 4 but i don't think i will do it again.... I am sticking to Doc's tek.....

http://www.mycotopia.net/site/article.php?19.255

is what i used


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504565 - 04/11/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

its impossible to drain all water out of jars unless you get a paper towel and dry the wbs off..i drained as good as it gets and water still accumulates..but after pcing it should evaporate..my last wbs batch came out clumpy...but i dunno why so i just shook it as soon as it came out of pc and it was fine


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5504600 - 04/11/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

to loosen the clumps take an old shoe and put the sole perpindicular to the ground and slam the side of the jar against it, works like a charm. Best when done HOT


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Andrew47]
    #5504683 - 04/11/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

For my lids what worked really well was:

I put 2 holes in it, and covered one with silicon. then i covered the other with micropore tape. Self healing injection site and air exchange, 0 contams out of 16 jars.

I also put a small amount of dry verm in each jar to absorb any extra moisture. worked great


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: AKtoker]
    #5504691 - 04/11/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Wekk toker,i already got holes in my lids cause i previously used the jars for brf...soo ya know iam just taping all the holes and just inocing threw the tape on 1 hole and just squirting around ya know...when you guys inoculate wbs do you shake after injection or do u wait until 50%...


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5504827 - 04/11/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I use doc's way for my lids, works great for me. Where did you find that bird feed BTW i have heard good things about it and am wondering were people found it...




I've bought that stuff from wallywolrd before. I remember because the checkout lady asked my what kind of bird I had. Saying your picking it up for someone else always works to shut them up.


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: pshawny]
    #5504847 - 04/11/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I use doc's way for my lids, works great for me. Where did you find that bird feed BTW i have heard good things about it and am wondering were people found it...




I've bought that stuff from wallywolrd before. I remember because the checkout lady asked my what kind of bird I had. Saying your picking it up for someone else always works to shut them up.




If i had a dime for all the times i have been picking up shroom stuff and had to BS my way to make it seem legit i be rich hehe


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5505135 - 04/11/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hey,i just got done pcing my 8 pint wbs jars...and they seem dry..is the wbs supposed to look wet?or it doesnt matter as long as it soaked up enough during the soak n simmer?i pced them at 15-20 psi for 70 minutes,and i used foomanshrooms easy soak and simmer tek...


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5505141 - 04/11/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

mine always had a glissen to them.... but today mine seemed SOAKED, post a picture, as will I


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5505149 - 04/11/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Hulled Oats




Can't remeber if you want hulled or not...

I think unhulled is what you want simply b/c they have a shell, which keeps them from getting soggy...

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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5505180 - 04/11/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

thats not the problem...ill get a pic brb


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5505208 - 04/11/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

heres the pic of the wbs pint jars..they all look like this...


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5505223 - 04/11/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ha, your fine dude. Once you knock it up and put in the incubation chanber things will be fine. Mine looked kinda like that when i used doc's method. Now my pints look horrible, h/o pic time


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5505233 - 04/11/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well sounds then.

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What chemical properties are in oats I wonder...

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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #5505251 - 04/11/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well i figuered once i knock them up i was thinking a boput shaking them right after i inoculate them..or should i just wait to shake?i was thinking shake it to spread the spores...


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5505278 - 04/11/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

here it is



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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5505291 - 04/11/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

3 shakes

1 right out the PCer

2 after you knock it up

3 after the jar is 30- 40% colinised

any additional shaking will result in delayed growth


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #5505311 - 04/11/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I shake as soon as I inject...Just to get 'em everywhere...And then once more after like 15%-20% has colonized :thumbup:

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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5505324 - 04/11/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

how come your grains look bigger then mine?what did u do? soak or simmer?


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5505384 - 04/11/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Like i said earlier i did a new tek

http://www.mycotopia.net/site/article.php?19.255

I am still wondering if it is going to work


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5505492 - 04/11/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I found White Millet at a local store, i am wondering if i can use it strait


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: Babo911]
    #5505797 - 04/11/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah of course yo ucan use millet thats what u want...i mean of course other additives with other nutes will be good but millet got some good nutes too so my guess is yes you can...iam just hoping my wbs grow will go good so i can spawn to this damn 10lbs of poo i got laying around..but i got a casing of poo ri ght now with an awesome fuckin pinset which iam waiting to get a pic of till tom so there a lil bigger so u guys can see..so keep yours eyes pealed for it


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5505988 - 04/11/06 10:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I am going to go for it and let you know. I got 10 bricks of bed a beast so i might spawn to some of that. Thanks man. 5+shrooms for you!


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Re: Can i use this birdfeed?*PICS* [Re: bongtoke]
    #5506010 - 04/11/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the 5 shrooms :smile:...you said your go ing to spawn to coir?like mix your colonized wbs to the bed a beast?bed a beast is mostly used for a casing...or mixed with hpoo,i never heard it being used straight for spawning


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