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Where Are the Cries of Racism?
    #5503095 - 04/11/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

A black stripper/hooker ruins the life of an entire lacrosse team with her lies, and there are no cries of racism? DNA tests link not a single one of the players to the alleged crime. If this was a black team, and a white slut, then Jesse Jackson, and all those other retards, would be out protesting about how the white girl is a racist and trying to ruin the blacks' lives.

I think this degenerate should have to pay Duke for all lost revenue, and she should also have to pay each of the teams members way through college for the year.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5503120 - 04/11/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

this happens all the time... of course if anyone stood up and called her a racist, that would make us the nazis, right?  because white males are all born with silver spoons in our asses and big trust funds, right?  we don't EVER have to work hard throughout our lives, right? 

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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5503126 - 04/11/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Could you provide a link to the source stating the outcome of the DNA tests? I hadn't heard the results were released as of yet.

EDIT: nevermind I see it on Foxnews.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: badchad]
    #5503142 - 04/11/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You watch faux news?


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5503174 - 04/11/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You're not allowed to cry racism if you're white, unless it's on behalf of a minority.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: blink]
    #5503211 - 04/11/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Must be. I guess it'll be interesting here in the future when whites are a minority.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5503248 - 04/11/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Even when we are the minority I don't think it will change much


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: freshlyPLUMP]
    #5503372 - 04/11/06 12:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yea really. i had thought that they were gulity. The one guy did write an email saying he was gonna skin a stripper then get off on it tho....

Im guessing what really happened is a little bit of groping by some drunk lacrosse players and the one guy is just a perv.... It happens and i feel bad that i thought they were gulity


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: Hitman203]
    #5503384 - 04/11/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Hitman203 said:

Yea really. i had thought that they were gulity. The one guy did write an email saying he was gonna skin a stripper then get off on it tho....





That makes as much sense as someone saying they think you're guilty of murder just because your screen name is "hitman203".


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5503394 - 04/11/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Wait wait, so rapists can't use condoms and have to blow their load in all their victims? Not to mention the Mitochondrial DNA and epithelial DNA which take as much as 3 weeks to just to replicate an adequate sample to test.

I'm just saying that this hasn't effectively proven or disproven that she was raped.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: Hitman203]
    #5503404 - 04/11/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Hitman203 said:
Yea really. i had thought that they were gulity. The one guy did write an email saying he was gonna skin a stripper then get off on it tho....

Im guessing what really happened is a little bit of groping by some drunk lacrosse players and the one guy is just a perv.... It happens and i feel bad that i thought they were gulity





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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5503408 - 04/11/06 12:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That's because a white girl accusing a group of black men of rape would have a cultural and historical significance that simply isn't there for a black girl accusing a group of white men of rape.

In other words, it wasn't fairly common in the last century for a black girl to accuse a white man of rape on frivolous grounds, and then for the white man to be hunted down by a group of black men and hanged, and then for the actions of the gang of black men to be ignored or even endorsed by the state. The reverse was, however, fairly common.

It's a pretty ridiculous comparison.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5503466 - 04/11/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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daimyo said:
A black stripper/hooker ruins the life of an entire lacrosse team with her lies, and there are no cries of racism? DNA tests link not a single one of the players to the alleged crime. If this was a black team, and a white slut, then Jesse Jackson, and all those other retards, would be out protesting about how the white girl is a racist and trying to ruin the blacks' lives.

I think this degenerate should have to pay Duke for all lost revenue, and she should also have to pay each of the teams members way through college for the year.




What the hell does racism have to do with this situation at all? Where are you getting this from Daimyo? Her race has nothing to do with the case, you are 100% assuming it does.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5503476 - 04/11/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

she sid the thing started off with racist remarks, then moved on to rape.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5503520 - 04/11/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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unbeliever said:
Wait wait, so rapists can't use condoms and have to blow their load in all their victims?



I didn't say that. There were samples taken from under her fingernails from what I understand.

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I'm just saying that this hasn't effectively proven or disproven that she was raped.



Agreed.

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What the hell does racism have to do with this situation at all? Where are you getting this from Daimyo? Her race has nothing to do with the case, you are 100% assuming it does.



I never said her race has anything to do with the case. My point is that if a white girl ruined the lives of 40someodd basketball players, and the reputation of a school with false accusations, Jesse Jackson would be out in the streets yelling racism.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5503569 - 04/11/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The cries of racism have begun...from the blacks :what:

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Students at N.C. Central University, where the alleged victim is a student, found more questions than answers in the evening announcement from the lacrosse players' lawyers.

NCCU senior Donald Parker said the DNA tests took a suspiciously long time and that the results didn't surprise him, "dealing with this racist system."

"If it was a black man, do you think they would have waited for DNA tests, or that DNA tests would have played a valuable part in the evidence?" Parker asked.




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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5503608 - 04/11/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:

What a fucking joke.  Some black people need to stop screaming "Victim!" every two seconds.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? *DELETED* [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5503713 - 04/11/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: blink]
    #5503751 - 04/11/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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:lol:

What a fucking joke.  Some black people need to stop screaming "Victim!" every two seconds.




As a member of the Toronto Police Services Union, I'd have to agree with you. :crazy2:




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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5503822 - 04/11/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm just wondering something here...how many of you guys actually know a black person their personal lives? to me all of you but Odiumjunkie have made some ignorant and racist comments. And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people. i would think people on this board would be a little more open minded and enlightened but I'm sad to say that that is not the fact in this manner. i think you guys need to take a step out of your little bubbles and realize that we are all in this world together and stop hating


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: fungusRamongus]
    #5503841 - 04/11/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm just wondering something here...how many of you guys actually know a black person their personal lives? to me all of you but Odiumjunkie have made some ignorant and racist comments. And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people. i would think people on this board would be a little more open minded and enlightened but I'm sad to say that that is not the fact in this manner. i think you guys need to take a step out of your little bubbles and realize that we are all in this world together and stop hating




Uh, I'd like to not be dismissed into the crowd of ignorant racists, thanks.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: fungusRamongus]
    #5503850 - 04/11/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm just wondering something here...how many of you guys actually know a black person their personal lives? to me all of you but Odiumjunkie have made some ignorant and racist comments. And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people. i would think people on this board would be a little more open minded and enlightened but I'm sad to say that that is not the fact in this manner. i think you guys need to take a step out of your little bubbles and realize that we are all in this world together and stop hating



So, believing that black people can be racist therefore makes you a racist? Does not compute.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: fungusRamongus]
    #5503889 - 04/11/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people.



Take a look in the mirror.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5503912 - 04/11/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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daimyo said:
A black stripper/hooker ruins the life of an entire lacrosse team with her lies, and there are no cries of racism? DNA tests link not a single one of the players to the alleged crime. If this was a black team, and a white slut, then Jesse Jackson, and all those other retards, would be out protesting about how the white girl is a racist and trying to ruin the blacks' lives.

I think this degenerate should have to pay Duke for all lost revenue, and she should also have to pay each of the teams members way through college for the year.




here in the UK, this thread is the first i ver heard about this story, which sounds prett interesting. odiumjunkie's was an interesting reply, but i wanna hear more. how did the story break? how the media first report it - "'20 white guys gangbanged me' says black girl"? "basketball team in rape claim from local party girl" ? "local basketball heroes are rapists"?, "Dukes arrested for rape", what?


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: shirley knott]
    #5503932 - 04/11/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The first I heard of it went like this:

Duke lacrosse team facing serious allegations. Then, Duke lacrosse team accused of raping exotic dancer. Then, racial slurs before attack. Then, 46 students to give DNA samples.

Somewhere in all of that some black preacher man held some sort of rally. Then there was a story about racial tensions on the rise. Yesterday there was some talk of there being pictures of the slut arriving to the party ALREADY beat and bleeding. And yesterday there was the news that the DNA tests came back negative.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5504074 - 04/11/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

black strippers kick ass


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5504138 - 04/11/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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daimyo said:
A black stripper/hooker ruins the life of an entire lacrosse team with her lies, and there are no cries of racism? DNA tests link not a single one of the players to the alleged crime. If this was a black team, and a white slut, then Jesse Jackson, and all those other retards, would be out protesting about how the white girl is a racist and trying to ruin the blacks' lives.

I think this degenerate should have to pay Duke for all lost revenue, and she should also have to pay each of the teams members way through college for the year.




Learn to make sense and use actual logic. why don't you stop playing 'their' game by not thinking in 'black and white' terms?


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: kaiowas]
    #5504177 - 04/11/06 03:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What part don't you understand? It has made sense to everyone else in the thread thus far. And what type of logic would you like me to formulate my posts in from here on?


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5504232 - 04/11/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Must be. I guess it'll be interesting here in the future when whites are a minority.




we are the minority...if your in tx or cali.

*edit* i also understand the cries of racism coming from the black community. but what i dont understand is this, white women do get raped and murderd by black men...but you never see white preachers forming rallys with rednecks to get all up in arms like we wanna start a race war...seriously, todays young adults are usually the furthest thing from racists and view all people as just that...people. its time the black community starts to do the same instead of looking at white people like were the devil...imho black people are more racist than white people.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5504265 - 04/11/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

your post is interesting...

first you refer to the victim as a 'black stipper/hooker' where in your example you refer to the victim as a 'white girl' and not a white stipper/hooker.
you also use 'white slut' but that just shows that you dont think highly of prostitues.

you also refer to the white team players as the 'lacrosse team' where in your example you refer to them as 'all those other retards'

'ruin the black's lives' also clues me into something as you dont use a racial term to describe the white team players nor do you identify them as people, just a color.


nice use of a rhetorical question to invoke an biased emotional response, intended or not its still there.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: BlueRidge]
    #5504327 - 04/11/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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RebootReality said:
your post is interesting...



Thank you.

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RebootReality said:
first you refer to the victim as a 'black stipper/hooker' where in your example you refer to the victim as a 'white girl' and not a white stipper/hooker.



I refer to her as "white slut", and then white girl.  I would have used white slut twice, but that would be redundant.

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you also refer to the white team players as the 'lacrosse team' where in your example you refer to them as 'all those other retards'



The "all those other retards" reference goes to the people like Jesse Jackson that get all up in arms and start rallies every time a black is involved.

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'ruin the black's lives' also clues me into something as you dont use a racial term to describe the white team players nor do you identify them as people, just a color.



I don't quite follow you on this part.

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nice use of a rhetorical question to invoke an biased emotional response, intended or not its still there.



Thank you :wink:


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: fungusRamongus]
    #5504356 - 04/11/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm just wondering something here...how many of you guys actually know a black person their personal lives? to me all of you but Odiumjunkie have made some ignorant and racist comments. And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people. i would think people on this board would be a little more open minded and enlightened but I'm sad to say that that is not the fact in this manner. i think you guys need to take a step out of your little bubbles and realize that we are all in this world together and stop hating




I know a lot of black people. I'm not racist nor am I prejudiced. I give everybody an equal chance and I don't give a shit what color a person is.

But, I think that many so-called leaders in the black community have encouraged a disgusting and pervasive sense of victimhood which taints a lot of the general belief systems of African Americans.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: BlueRidge]
    #5504359 - 04/11/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

racism. i really dont like that word. its all just a bunch of bullshit anyways. either you decide to "care" or you dont, i dont. i treat anyone with the respect they deserve reglardless of skin pigments or whatever, its really simple. i was in africa for a long time, there people yelled mzungo after me everywhere i go, mzungo is an swahili name for the white man. im sure they have reasons to dislike white people there, i really didnt care. because of certain nations have occupied certain countries, enslaved people , whatever, all of that - not my problem. i sympethize for all who has suffered but its really not my problem and there is really nothing i can do to change it. racism seems to me sometimes like one of the most abused word ever. there are immigrants here that quicky yells racism if they dont get what they want. it makes me loose all intrest in any arguments they may have had. stick to the topic damnit and dont come with political mumbo jumbo. enough rambling :smile: cheers


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: fungusRamongus]
    #5504374 - 04/11/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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fungusRamongus said:
I'm just wondering something here...how many of you guys actually know a black person their personal lives? to me all of you but Odiumjunkie have made some ignorant and racist comments. And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people. i would think people on this board would be a little more open minded and enlightened but I'm sad to say that that is not the fact in this manner. i think you guys need to take a step out of your little bubbles and realize that we are all in this world together and stop hating




how bout this: i (white dude) have been the minority in every school i ever attended, and that's not a lie. i know plenty of black people and have a lot of black friends, but thats not the point.

the point is all the different races need to quit screaming racism every time they dont get their way. its a cop out, it's an excuse for someone who cant come up with a better argument and they dont want to admit they're wrong. its the easiest way to unite a large group of people because its a common ground. once that movement gets started, people focus on racism and issues that arent even part of the real problem. everyone forgets what the hell they're really mad about and thats why the problems never get solved.

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Equal inopporunity is the way to go.


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    #5504413 - 04/11/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Heh.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: blink]
    #5504419 - 04/11/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The real question is....why are you in the Toronto Police Persons or whatever you call it union, Officer Blink?  :smirk:


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    #5504510 - 04/11/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Must be. I guess it'll be interesting here in the future when whites are a minority.




we are the minority...if your in tx or cali.

*edit* i also understand the cries of racism coming from the black community. but what i dont understand is this, white women do get raped and murderd by black men...but you never see white preachers forming rallys with rednecks to get all up in arms like we wanna start a race war...seriously, todays young adults are usually the furthest thing from racists and view all people as just that...people. its time the black community starts to do the same instead of looking at white people like were the devil...imho black people are more racist than white people.





minority has more than one meaning (as with many words in the english language) In the context of populationn, it's all relative to the size. your town may have more of one race than another, but if you took the entire united states, the outcome would be very different.

often in regards political or social situations discussion deals with being disadvantaged. in these situation minority has less to deal with the number of people and more to deal with political power and wealth. In this more important context whites will never be the minority.

"people. its time the black community starts to do the same instead of looking at white people like were the devil...imho black people are more racist than white people"

such a general statement, don't be fooled by social conditioning. do you think maybe that the media puts attention on these small scale bullshit social situations that don't really matter in order to keep you in a white vs black vs whatever mindset. this way you can be pre-occupied and in the dark with what really matters; all in the while development an ignorant point of view. I'm not bashing you so don't get all upset, but look at your statement again, use a bit of logic and see its so fucking general, and thus isn't true.

everyone is different, you can'd generalize a whole fuckin community, but that's what 'they' want you to do, it breeds seperation.

question what you are being shown and why you are being shown it.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5507798 - 04/12/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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the point is all the different races need to quit screaming racism every time they dont get their way. its a cop out, it's an excuse for someone who cant come up with a better argument and they dont want to admit they're wrong. its the easiest way to unite a large group of people because its a common ground. once that movement gets started, people focus on racism and issues that arent even part of the real problem. everyone forgets what the hell they're really mad about and thats why the problems never get solved.





I totally agree with you, and that is why I disagree with the original post in this thread. Daimyo is the one who is screaming racism in this situation. He thinks that the stripper acussed the lacrosse team of rape because she is black, they are white, and therefore she wants to "ruin their lives."

While this may be possible, the truth is we don't know whether or not they assaulted her, or raped her, or if they didn't why she was motivated to accuse them of doing so. Because I wasn't there, you weren't there, and neither was Daimyo. I'm willing to wager this situation has a lot more to do with the stripper putting herself in a situation where she is totally exposed to 40 plus lacrosse players who were probably at the very least extremely aggressive. But again that's just an assumption and a guess.

But I think it is the assumption of racism that you attacked that is at play in the most of the discussion going on in this thread. People seem to think the fact that the stripper is black and the team is white tells the whole story.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5507833 - 04/12/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

daimyo*

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Daimyo is the one who is screaming racism in this situation.



Nah, merely wondering where the screams of racism are from the usual suspects(Jesse Jackson and the like).

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He thinks that the stripper acussed the lacrosse team of rape because she is black, they are white, and therefore she wants to "ruin their lives."



1. I doubt you read minds, so you should never state what another is thinking unless you know for sure. On the off chance that you do read minds, you are still wrong on your assumption.

2. I posed that view because I think it is likely that had the roles been reversed, we would be seeing more of the usual suspects(as defined above).


Now, on with the story. The cries of racism have begun, as I pointed out a couple posts back. Not more than 15 minutes ago I was watching the news and there was a story about the racial aspect of this. The blacks believe that the white students should be arrested DESPITE the DNA evidence pointing towards their innocence. The reason they feel the whites should be arrested? Because, in their opinion, had the roles been reversed the blacks woulds be under arrest already.

I won't play the naive role here and say there's no racism in the system, but to say that people should be arrested after DNA tests come back negative is preposterous. Let's assume the roles had been reversed, and the blacks had the DNA evidence on their side. Would they still be screaming for the aresst of the team? Not a fucking chance. And if the team were arrested in spite of the evidence? Fuck.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5507909 - 04/12/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i look forward to the day when i can hear of a murder, rape, robbery whatever without either of the words 'black' or 'white'. i'm sure it'll upset a lot of people, but the day the law is passed outlawing physical descriptions in public releases (ie. except for the local guys looking) i'll be a happy klinefelter.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: shirley knott]
    #5507913 - 04/12/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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i look forward to the day when i can hear of a murder, rape, robbery whatever without either of the words 'black' or 'white'. i'm sure it'll upset a lot of people, but the day the law is passed outlawing physical descriptions in public releases (ie. except for the local guys looking) i'll be a happy klinefelter.




I hate it when people don't want people described the color of their skin. It's such fucking bullshit. It's only a judgment if you view it that way. It's just another way of offering description.

A green shirt. A black shirt. A white shirt. A black and yellow polka dotted shirt.

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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5507926 - 04/12/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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i look forward to the day when i can hear of a murder, rape, robbery whatever without either of the words 'black' or 'white'. i'm sure it'll upset a lot of people, but the day the law is passed outlawing physical descriptions in public releases (ie. except for the local guys looking) i'll be a happy klinefelter.




I hate it when people don't want people described the color of their skin. It's such fucking bullshit. It's only a judgment if you view it that way. It's just another way of offering description.

A green shirt. A black shirt. A white shirt. A black and yellow polka dotted shirt.

A black man.
A white man.
A black man with bleach blonde hair.
A white man with freckles and a bald head.



YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GREEN SHIRTS?!!1OMGONE1! U R T3H R4C1ST!!ELEVEN!
my point is that its stupid for anyone to get bent out of shape because someone calls a black person "black" and to automaticly assume they are racist. im not racist, it doesnt take skin color for me dislike someone


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5507929 - 04/12/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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He thinks that the stripper acussed the lacrosse team of rape because she is black, they are white, and therefore she wants to "ruin their lives."




1. I doubt you read minds, so you should never state what another is thinking unless you know for sure.




I do not read minds, I was merely taking your words at face value:
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A black stripper/hooker ruins the life of an entire lacrosse team with her lies...




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2. I posed that view because I think it is likely that had the roles been reversed, we would be seeing more of the usual suspects(as defined above).





Understood, but isn't that a form of screaming racism? You're saying that it is a racist situatioin because if hypothetically the races were different people would be complaining about racism?

Here is my basic point I'm trying to make to you. In every media scandal like this there are going to be people who make it out be a racial issue, because they were standing by at the sidelines ready to fit the situation into a racist framework before it even happened. You are right to attack the black students you quoted who think the team should be arrested anyway. Those guys are obviously assholes who aren't capable of doing anything besides complaining about racism.

Ironically, though, by referring to those extremist students or Jesse Jackson as the voice of black people everywhere and pointing out how racist they are you are acting as the flipside of the same coin in the debate. I honestly think when a scandal like this happens and some idiot gets up on a soapbox and starts yelling about how the team got off because they are white and the stripper is black the best reaction is to let them know they are being blinded by their own ideology, and otherwise ignore them. To stand up on an opposite soap box and say that all black people do is complain about being victimized just ensures that the debate remains childish.

For example:
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I won't play the naive role here and say there's no racism in the system, but to say that people should be arrested after DNA tests come back negative is preposterous.




I agree totally.
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Let's assume the roles had been reversed, and the blacks had the DNA evidence on their side. Would they still be screaming for the aresst of the team? Not a fucking chance. And if the team were arrested in spite of the evidence? Fuck.




Why? Why assume the roles had been reversed? Can't we just leave it at the fact that a handfull of students are being preposterous and not define it as typical black behavior?


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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>It's only a judgment if you view it that way.

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    #5507939 - 04/12/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5508876 - 04/12/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the crackers did it, end of story.


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: shirley knott]
    #5508905 - 04/12/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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i look forward to the day when i can hear of a murder, rape, robbery whatever without either of the words 'black' or 'white'. i'm sure it'll upset a lot of people, but the day the law is passed outlawing physical descriptions in public releases (ie. except for the local guys looking) i'll be a happy klinefelter.





"A 5'10" male human being with hair was seen running from the crime."

Yeah, that will sure help with the investigation. Just because they mention the color of the persons skin doesn't make it racist.

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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
    #5508969 - 04/12/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"If this was a black team, and a white slut, then Jesse Jackson, and all those other retards, would be out protesting about how the white girl is a racist and trying to ruin the blacks' lives."

That is because in both situations there's no evidence of racism involved. However, this is irrelevant. according to the rules of political correctness, all white people are racist, blacks deserve superior status in society in the form of affirmative action, and blacks are allowed to hurl any racial insult towards whites with impunity (ever heard of Kanye West, or Nas?).


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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: RedNucleus]
    #5508999 - 04/12/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

am i the only motherfucker in here who is wondering how it is this thread has managed to get multiple 1st time posters spouting off in it?


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