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fungusRamongus said: I'm just wondering something here...how many of you guys actually know a black person their personal lives? to me all of you but Odiumjunkie have made some ignorant and racist comments. And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people. i would think people on this board would be a little more open minded and enlightened but I'm sad to say that that is not the fact in this manner. i think you guys need to take a step out of your little bubbles and realize that we are all in this world together and stop hating
Uh, I'd like to not be dismissed into the crowd of ignorant racists, thanks.
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fungusRamongus said: I'm just wondering something here...how many of you guys actually know a black person their personal lives? to me all of you but Odiumjunkie have made some ignorant and racist comments. And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people. i would think people on this board would be a little more open minded and enlightened but I'm sad to say that that is not the fact in this manner. i think you guys need to take a step out of your little bubbles and realize that we are all in this world together and stop hating
So, believing that black people can be racist therefore makes you a racist? Does not compute.
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fungusRamongus said: And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people.
Take a look in the mirror.
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
#5503912 - 04/11/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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daimyo said: A black stripper/hooker ruins the life of an entire lacrosse team with her lies, and there are no cries of racism? DNA tests link not a single one of the players to the alleged crime. If this was a black team, and a white slut, then Jesse Jackson, and all those other retards, would be out protesting about how the white girl is a racist and trying to ruin the blacks' lives.
I think this degenerate should have to pay Duke for all lost revenue, and she should also have to pay each of the teams members way through college for the year.
here in the UK, this thread is the first i ver heard about this story, which sounds prett interesting. odiumjunkie's was an interesting reply, but i wanna hear more. how did the story break? how the media first report it - "'20 white guys gangbanged me' says black girl"? "basketball team in rape claim from local party girl" ? "local basketball heroes are rapists"?, "Dukes arrested for rape", what?
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: shirley knott]
#5503932 - 04/11/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The first I heard of it went like this:
Duke lacrosse team facing serious allegations. Then, Duke lacrosse team accused of raping exotic dancer. Then, racial slurs before attack. Then, 46 students to give DNA samples.
Somewhere in all of that some black preacher man held some sort of rally. Then there was a story about racial tensions on the rise. Yesterday there was some talk of there being pictures of the slut arriving to the party ALREADY beat and bleeding. And yesterday there was the news that the DNA tests came back negative.
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
#5504074 - 04/11/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
#5504138 - 04/11/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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daimyo said: A black stripper/hooker ruins the life of an entire lacrosse team with her lies, and there are no cries of racism? DNA tests link not a single one of the players to the alleged crime. If this was a black team, and a white slut, then Jesse Jackson, and all those other retards, would be out protesting about how the white girl is a racist and trying to ruin the blacks' lives.
I think this degenerate should have to pay Duke for all lost revenue, and she should also have to pay each of the teams members way through college for the year.
Learn to make sense and use actual logic. why don't you stop playing 'their' game by not thinking in 'black and white' terms?
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: kaiowas]
#5504177 - 04/11/06 03:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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What part don't you understand? It has made sense to everyone else in the thread thus far. And what type of logic would you like me to formulate my posts in from here on?
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
#5504232 - 04/11/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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daimyo said: Must be. I guess it'll be interesting here in the future when whites are a minority.
we are the minority...if your in tx or cali.
*edit* i also understand the cries of racism coming from the black community. but what i dont understand is this, white women do get raped and murderd by black men...but you never see white preachers forming rallys with rednecks to get all up in arms like we wanna start a race war...seriously, todays young adults are usually the furthest thing from racists and view all people as just that...people. its time the black community starts to do the same instead of looking at white people like were the devil...imho black people are more racist than white people.
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: daimyo]
#5504265 - 04/11/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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your post is interesting...
first you refer to the victim as a 'black stipper/hooker' where in your example you refer to the victim as a 'white girl' and not a white stipper/hooker. you also use 'white slut' but that just shows that you dont think highly of prostitues.
you also refer to the white team players as the 'lacrosse team' where in your example you refer to them as 'all those other retards'
'ruin the black's lives' also clues me into something as you dont use a racial term to describe the white team players nor do you identify them as people, just a color.
nice use of a rhetorical question to invoke an biased emotional response, intended or not its still there.
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: BlueRidge]
#5504327 - 04/11/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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RebootReality said: your post is interesting...
Thank you.
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RebootReality said: first you refer to the victim as a 'black stipper/hooker' where in your example you refer to the victim as a 'white girl' and not a white stipper/hooker.
I refer to her as "white slut", and then white girl. I would have used white slut twice, but that would be redundant.
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RebootReality said: you also refer to the white team players as the 'lacrosse team' where in your example you refer to them as 'all those other retards'
The "all those other retards" reference goes to the people like Jesse Jackson that get all up in arms and start rallies every time a black is involved.
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RebootReality said: 'ruin the black's lives' also clues me into something as you dont use a racial term to describe the white team players nor do you identify them as people, just a color.
I don't quite follow you on this part.
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RebootReality said: nice use of a rhetorical question to invoke an biased emotional response, intended or not its still there.
Thank you
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fungusRamongus said: I'm just wondering something here...how many of you guys actually know a black person their personal lives? to me all of you but Odiumjunkie have made some ignorant and racist comments. And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people. i would think people on this board would be a little more open minded and enlightened but I'm sad to say that that is not the fact in this manner. i think you guys need to take a step out of your little bubbles and realize that we are all in this world together and stop hating
I know a lot of black people. I'm not racist nor am I prejudiced. I give everybody an equal chance and I don't give a shit what color a person is.
But, I think that many so-called leaders in the black community have encouraged a disgusting and pervasive sense of victimhood which taints a lot of the general belief systems of African Americans.
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: BlueRidge]
#5504359 - 04/11/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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racism. i really dont like that word. its all just a bunch of bullshit anyways. either you decide to "care" or you dont, i dont. i treat anyone with the respect they deserve reglardless of skin pigments or whatever, its really simple. i was in africa for a long time, there people yelled mzungo after me everywhere i go, mzungo is an swahili name for the white man. im sure they have reasons to dislike white people there, i really didnt care. because of certain nations have occupied certain countries, enslaved people , whatever, all of that - not my problem. i sympethize for all who has suffered but its really not my problem and there is really nothing i can do to change it. racism seems to me sometimes like one of the most abused word ever. there are immigrants here that quicky yells racism if they dont get what they want. it makes me loose all intrest in any arguments they may have had. stick to the topic damnit and dont come with political mumbo jumbo. enough rambling cheers
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fungusRamongus said: I'm just wondering something here...how many of you guys actually know a black person their personal lives? to me all of you but Odiumjunkie have made some ignorant and racist comments. And to the most immediate comments by randalflagg and the pig...i feel sad to be a human when i see that there are still people out there that have prejudices against any type of people. i would think people on this board would be a little more open minded and enlightened but I'm sad to say that that is not the fact in this manner. i think you guys need to take a step out of your little bubbles and realize that we are all in this world together and stop hating
how bout this: i (white dude) have been the minority in every school i ever attended, and that's not a lie. i know plenty of black people and have a lot of black friends, but thats not the point.
the point is all the different races need to quit screaming racism every time they dont get their way. its a cop out, it's an excuse for someone who cant come up with a better argument and they dont want to admit they're wrong. its the easiest way to unite a large group of people because its a common ground. once that movement gets started, people focus on racism and issues that arent even part of the real problem. everyone forgets what the hell they're really mad about and thats why the problems never get solved.
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? *DELETED* [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: blink]
#5504409 - 04/11/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Equal inopporunity is the way to go.
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: Redstorm]
#5504413 - 04/11/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Heh.
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: blink]
#5504419 - 04/11/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The real question is....why are you in the Toronto Police Persons or whatever you call it union, Officer Blink?
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: hIgHdRoLoVeR]
#5504510 - 04/11/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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daimyo said: Must be. I guess it'll be interesting here in the future when whites are a minority.
we are the minority...if your in tx or cali.
*edit* i also understand the cries of racism coming from the black community. but what i dont understand is this, white women do get raped and murderd by black men...but you never see white preachers forming rallys with rednecks to get all up in arms like we wanna start a race war...seriously, todays young adults are usually the furthest thing from racists and view all people as just that...people. its time the black community starts to do the same instead of looking at white people like were the devil...imho black people are more racist than white people.
minority has more than one meaning (as with many words in the english language) In the context of populationn, it's all relative to the size. your town may have more of one race than another, but if you took the entire united states, the outcome would be very different.
often in regards political or social situations discussion deals with being disadvantaged. in these situation minority has less to deal with the number of people and more to deal with political power and wealth. In this more important context whites will never be the minority.
"people. its time the black community starts to do the same instead of looking at white people like were the devil...imho black people are more racist than white people"
such a general statement, don't be fooled by social conditioning. do you think maybe that the media puts attention on these small scale bullshit social situations that don't really matter in order to keep you in a white vs black vs whatever mindset. this way you can be pre-occupied and in the dark with what really matters; all in the while development an ignorant point of view. I'm not bashing you so don't get all upset, but look at your statement again, use a bit of logic and see its so fucking general, and thus isn't true.
everyone is different, you can'd generalize a whole fuckin community, but that's what 'they' want you to do, it breeds seperation.
question what you are being shown and why you are being shown it.
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Re: Where Are the Cries of Racism? [Re: PurpleKush]
#5507798 - 04/12/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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PurpleKush said: the point is all the different races need to quit screaming racism every time they dont get their way. its a cop out, it's an excuse for someone who cant come up with a better argument and they dont want to admit they're wrong. its the easiest way to unite a large group of people because its a common ground. once that movement gets started, people focus on racism and issues that arent even part of the real problem. everyone forgets what the hell they're really mad about and thats why the problems never get solved.
I totally agree with you, and that is why I disagree with the original post in this thread. Daimyo is the one who is screaming racism in this situation. He thinks that the stripper acussed the lacrosse team of rape because she is black, they are white, and therefore she wants to "ruin their lives."
While this may be possible, the truth is we don't know whether or not they assaulted her, or raped her, or if they didn't why she was motivated to accuse them of doing so. Because I wasn't there, you weren't there, and neither was Daimyo. I'm willing to wager this situation has a lot more to do with the stripper putting herself in a situation where she is totally exposed to 40 plus lacrosse players who were probably at the very least extremely aggressive. But again that's just an assumption and a guess.
But I think it is the assumption of racism that you attacked that is at play in the most of the discussion going on in this thread. People seem to think the fact that the stripper is black and the team is white tells the whole story.
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