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OfflineTurricaN
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Do you like the Salvia experience?
    #5501336 - 04/10/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Okay, I was just trying to find out roughly what proportion of people like the experience of salvia? I've read some sources that say that most people who try it never touch it again, yet it seems that others will keep coming back for more, even to the extent of using it daily.

I must say that I'm one of those who like it. I am still a newbie to Salvia, but I am intrigued by what she has to offer.

So, what's your opinion of Salvia?
Do you like the Salvia experience?
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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5501359 - 04/10/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The only time I enjoy Salvia, is when I'm not on it.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5501364 - 04/10/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

that shit is awesome


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: boomerman]
    #5501467 - 04/10/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It is quite amusing to watch people consume Salvia, especially large ammounts. I myself find the experience incredibly terrifying.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: boomerman]
    #5501470 - 04/10/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Salvia Is harder to understand than any other hallucinogen in my opinion.
It just seems like a true entity takes over bathing one in light and tactile hallucinations. It is best to think about it after the experience and try to figure out those feelings. If you try to understand why it should be considered so interesting while tripping on it, you words will fail your intentions. There are no words in that place. I give it an A++

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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: stemmer]
    #5501711 - 04/10/06 10:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Some drugs make you feel far away... salvia makes you feel CLOSER.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: Mezcal]
    #5501766 - 04/10/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

snyder said:
Some drugs make you feel far away... salvia makes you feel CLOSER.




Heheh nice

I like it, but for some reason am always reluctant to do it


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: Turn]
    #5501795 - 04/10/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

some people like pain...


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: XsXs]
    #5501835 - 04/10/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Its not about pain. Its about moving into another realm. allowing yourself to be taught by a being of which power you cannot possibly comprehend...


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: XsXs]
    #5501840 - 04/10/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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XsXs said:
some people like pain...




No shit, I have a friend who smokes it like weed. He'll buy some extract and smoke it over and over again all day till its gone. I don't know how he handles it. I know he gets nothing from it, so he must do it just for the instant fuck-up and for the crazy ass visual/reality. Salvia's visuals are real, there's no factor of "hallucination" while you're on it.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5501977 - 04/10/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

salvia is hardly a substance to be enjoyed IMO. I wouldn't say I enjoy it, but I use it, and (try to) learn from it, integrate my experiences into a manufacturable understanding.

So, this poll doesn't cater to my opinion of it, how about an "other" option?


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: NickSoapdish]
    #5501994 - 04/10/06 11:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I don't "enjoy" it in the traditional sense like I enjoy smoking weed and feeling euphoric, but I gain alot from it and appriciate the experiances immensely. I'm sure most people would agree.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: dubbyah]
    #5502381 - 04/11/06 04:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The first time I successfully did salvia I laughed like an idiot through the whole thing. Right as I exhaled the last hit, my whole body started tingling as through there were needles piercing me everywhere, and then all of a sudden... gravity shifted sideways! I was sitting on my bed so I just fell over in the direction I was being pulled. It took me a good 3-4 tries to stand back up since I had to counteract the now horizontal gravity. This all seemed ridiculous and amazingly amusing to me so I tried to communicate my experience to them. I couldn't stop slurring because my lips were being pulled back behind me ( the direction gravity shifted) so nobody was able to understand my reportage. At this point I gave up and just laughed at the hillarity of the situation until I came down.

Funny thing is one of my friend tried it about an hour after we all did it, and he experienced the exact same thing as me, a shift in gravity, in the same direction.... weird.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: kroum]
    #5502387 - 04/11/06 04:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Minimal mind exploration. Very physical trip, utterly alien effects. Salvinorin A & B aren't even indoles or phenethylamines, those two are quite literally, freak of nature alkaloids.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: kroum]
    #5502389 - 04/11/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yes, and I also enjoy understanding my dreams
seeing sunlight stream in through venetian blinds
savory food
sex
geat fine art
reading rumi
(much more...)
note none of these are party/action oriented
also I hate driving - I turn into a ninja cab driver in a black subcompact.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5502394 - 04/11/06 04:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've got tons of salvia at home but it scares the shit out of me. I've only tried it 3 times, and that was back to back.

It was an enjoyable set of experiences, but the feeling of being forced back in to your chair by some massive force is a little unnerving.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: Chikitta]
    #5502401 - 04/11/06 04:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The taste is really what's stopping me from delving into it often...


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: kroum]
    #5502419 - 04/11/06 05:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm surprised... Most of my friends say they don't like the taste or smell of Salvia... I must be one of the few that likes it.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5502480 - 04/11/06 06:07 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i too like the taste and smell.. but only of the smoke. getting the actual salvia on your tongue is something else all together.. like eating old rubber or something.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5502484 - 04/11/06 06:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

As far as smoking it goes - no..It's far too intense for me anyways.
I prefer the few pinches of extract into the mouth method way more. It's not nearly as intense but lasts longer.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: eris]
    #5502489 - 04/11/06 06:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

so you just put a couple pinches of extract in your mouth like chew, or what? Ive tried it many times, but never felt anything. Ive even tried the liquid extract, which was like 99% ethanol so it was just as unpleasant, and still never had an effect on me.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: kotik]
    #5502601 - 04/11/06 07:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i actually tried salvia for the first time last night around 9pm with my friend who has taken it before. i was stoned off my ass from smoking sour diesal and was like, lets go get some salvia man, i really wanna try it. we went to a local headshop(so many around downtown nyc) and picked up a gram of 21x extract.

we packed a bowl and he took the first hit. my friends face immediatley dropped and it seemed as if he tripped hard, but only tripped hard for like 10 seconds.

i took my first hit and as soon as i exhaled i felt my face getting hot and becoming real heavy and felt like my face was being stretched. not painful in any way, just a feeling i had. after that i began to laugh uncontrollably at every little thing for about 10 minutes. i also noticed that my tongue felt real heavy and i had trouble speaking, it felt real sluggish

it was probably the best and most laughable high ive ever hi actually really enjoyed my first time salvia experience, but i did not trip at all, just laughed so much for no eason and felt real heavy for such a long time. another thnig is, time seemed to go by so fast for the rest of the night. i came back home and fell asleep on my couch cuz i felt so lazy to go in bed and take my clothes off; but at the same time i had the msot relaxing night of sleep ever.

i ended up killing most of the gram of salvia with another person, taking numerous hits out of a bong. i had the same exact effects again. after about 15min of smoking salvia, i would zone out a lot and feel a bit confused at the same time - same feeling this other 1st time user i smoekd with was feeling. i might try it again today, i really did not get what i expected out of it - i thought i was going to be tripping and shit, whats up with this?


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: Achilles]
    #5502633 - 04/11/06 08:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've done it a couple of times and really like it. LIke others have said it's not like smokin weed but something else entirely. Some people are scared of the gravity changes, and the feeling of your skin melting off, but I enjoy it.

The last time I did it was with a 10x extract. After a second huge rip I felt the usual; left side of my face started sliding off, hard to talk, and all that junk. But about 20 seconds later I was pushed into another state of mind. I was in my apartment with a friend...I stood up and everything felt alien. I looked out the window and had no idea where I was even though I lived there. Then I proceeded to laugh HYSTERICALLY for about 10 minutes.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5502755 - 04/11/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've done Salvia many times in the past but in the last year or so I haven't touched it. It's a very interesting experience to say the least, but I don't enjoy it very much and may never do it again. A friend of mine does have some potent extract in case I do want to give it another try but it won't be anytime soon.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: Trav]
    #5502815 - 04/11/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i dont really gain anything from salvia, but i really enjoy smokn it


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: Weeded420]
    #5502888 - 04/11/06 09:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I used to enjoy smoking it, that is until I got split in half. Single most painful experience of my life. I've broken bones, came to during a surgery, etc nothing more painful that being ripped in two by lady Salvia.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: HighGuy]
    #5502894 - 04/11/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

haha ive been ripped apart too, however i didnt find it that painful


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5502915 - 04/11/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Mmm... I'm kind of mixed. I don't usually get the same effects of drugs as other people. For example, I took acid one time... and I didn't see any trippy colors or anything like my friends did.. I just kept going in and out of a state of awareness.

Anyway, the times I have taken Salvia only produced effects that made me laugh very hard, for no reason. It was pretty fun, but I probably wouldn't go out of my way to take it.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: ekornmeyer]
    #5503023 - 04/11/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I actually am not one for mixing anything with salvia, but last night I took a couple of tokes of alright cannabis, and then one big hefty pull of 20x, held it in, turned out the lights, and....

.....man,

Once I sort of got my ego back, after about 90 seconds, it was AMAZING! The cannabis made my body feel absolutely fiiine...I was in a completly engulfing visionary state for maybe 25-30 minutes, and 45 mintues later the salvia's effects had worn off.

I think it just takes time to build up a relationship to this plant and the spirit that is housed within. She isn't always going to be gentle, but once you get to know her, you can get a lot out of the experience.

I can't even describe what I was able to do. Envision anything possible, HEAR anything possible, create amazing music in my head, see perfectly coherent asthetics that I would have never seen before, not to mention the infinite eye-candy of salvia space.

I think I'll try this combination again in a couple months.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: Psilocyan]
    #5503596 - 04/11/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

personally, i just got uncontrollable laughter and no visuals or anything until i had done salvia a good 10-15 times. now i dont really get the laughter as much, but sometimes. however i almost always get intense visuals and OBE


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: kotik]
    #5503634 - 04/11/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

never tried Salvia... but i'm interested. don't know many people who would probably know where to get it, unfortunately.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: lysergicide]
    #5503653 - 04/11/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

anybody can get it. its legal.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5503935 - 04/11/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

eh, but i'm unaware of locations of salvia...


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: lysergicide]
    #5504226 - 04/11/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

just check out erowids sponsors, you can purchase salvia off of alot of internet sites, or check out your local head shop for some.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: lysergicide]
    #5504227 - 04/11/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It hides in many online shops, some of which are shroomery sponsors I believe.

Sometimes it can be located at ANY pipe/tobacco shop.

It's pretty easy to find, you don't even have to leave your house.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: lysergicide]
    #5504299 - 04/11/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I would recommend a shroomery sponser, smoke/pipe shops tend to have high prices (sometimes outrageously inflated). BouncingBear and IAmShaman are both good sources for S. divinorum at very reasonable prices.

Just please don't purchase anything from salviasupply.com. They're part of the reason that this sacrament is on its way to being outlawed.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: Psilocyan]
    #5504415 - 04/11/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I love where Salvia takes me. I love how "crazy" I feel on it. I love that it makes me feel like I'm dreaming, sometimes. I love sex on Salvia. I love thinking I'm a pillow. I love not knowing who I am, not understanding anything that is "real", but making everything my own. I could go on...

I JUST LOVE SALVIA.


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: iheartpr0n]
    #5504584 - 04/11/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Salvia can only be described by one thing:
(in a shaky, scared voice)"What the fuck?"

Every time I have ever done salvia I have repeated that same sentence (sometimes many times at once).

I vote, "I love the lady! she makes me feel goood inside..."


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: Psilocyan]
    #5504899 - 04/11/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Just please don't purchase anything from salviasupply.com.



LOL... That site is hilarious. You've gotta love the advocism of escapism:

"Does work or school have you down? Do you need a mini mental getaway from the realities of everyday life? The Mind Bender will jumpstart your senses with three distinct psychedelic trips."

And promoting the idea of those who are still in school using these substances? WTF?


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Re: Do you like the Salvia experience? [Re: TurricaN]
    #5506082 - 04/11/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know...it's truly awful. They actually have packages like "The Freshman pick" or etc...And they spell out exactly how these substances are "Just what you need to get away from it all!!" and "Guaranteed to send you on a crazy trip you'll never forget! DERP!"

I mean, to do that with Amanita muscaria? And aya-fucking-huasca? Can't even fathom the assholes behind this one.

I know that like half of us sent angry letters to them, but it still makes me sick just thinking about it. Maybe when S. divinorum is illegal in the near future they'll finally realize how, through greed, exploitation, and irresponsibility, they shot themselves in the foot.


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