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OfflineAlKaBonGG
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Hey Howdy !
    #5500848 - 04/10/06 06:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well this shure looks like the place I need to be! :thumbup:  I wanna start a li'l psylicybin thing goin and I got a real good book,"Psilocybin Production" by Adam Gottlieb.  I read it over a fyew times kinna and I figure I autta get somma the stuff I need but I dunno what somma this shitt is besides what it says in the glossary it is.  Im kinna tryin to figure out if I can just go to a health food store or somethin.  It says in the book that I gotta get some Agar, dextros and some yeast extract. Could I get that stuff in one spot mabey? Like in a health food joint or somthin mabey?  It says I might wanna get some K2HPO1 and calcium carbonate too, Figure these might be at the health food store too? Could I just go to the counter or somethin and tellem I want a couple bottles of K2HPO1, some agar,somedextrose calcium carbonate and some yeast extract without lookin goofey?  Where do I get this stuff?  Oh yea, and what bout absolute methyl?  I know its a solvent an stuff but what is it? Could someone tell me where to get it?  Whats it usually used for, -just so I dont look suspicios or nothin. I'd just kinna like to look like I might not be doin anything illeagle with it :crazy2:!  Id just like to know what to say.  Could anyone help me out on somma this?  Throw the Dog a bone Bruddas :smile:!


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Re: Hey Howdy ! [Re: AlKaBonGG]
    #5500873 - 04/10/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

for a beginner dont worry about all the stuff you were talking about...first and foremost you should get a firm grasp on some of the more basic cultivation teks..
start here
after you have masterd the pf tek and are comfortable growing in this manner then i suggest you move up to the bulk spawns and such :thumbup:

if ya need spores check  these guys  out...many people here love em :grin:


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Re: Hey Howdy ! [Re: AlKaBonGG]
    #5500910 - 04/10/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've been growing for about 9 months now, I haven't used agar yet. It's not a necessity at all. It's what I would consider ADVANCED. However I wouldn't consider someone a REAL grower unless they were familiar with agar work. (I guess I should step up soon LOL)

Starting with the PF tek isn't exactly a MUST. I've made a list of some awesome info. Every link is worth reading and doing so will probably save you time in the end.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...2c3#Post5078282


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Re: Hey Howdy ! [Re: musher_420]
    #5500918 - 04/10/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

rgr i guess i misunderstood...thought you were brand new to this...anyways..alot of people have great luck using honey or Kayro for lc as opposed to petri dishes with agar and the like (honeys cheap and readily available)..do a search on honey Kayro and see what ya can find


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Re: Hey Howdy ! [Re: hIgHdRoLoVeR]
    #5501115 - 04/10/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Howdy Musher! Howdy Highdrolover! Good lookin out! Im a nube at this but I was just gonna jump into it just like the book says. Books cool as shitt! It shows me how to inoculate into PDYA(or MEA)grow the mycelim in PDY and take it out to dry in bout 12 days and extract the Psylicybin from it with the absolute methyl. Its prety detailed but I was just wonderin where to get the stuff that the book called for. I never had to go out and get agar,I dont even know how to pronounce it. I was just wonderin if alla the stuff I asked bout in my first post was available at a health food store or somethin. I really dont mind if I fukk it up a fyew times before I get it rite but I was just wonderin where to get the stuff. (I think Il prolly hit it pretty good rite away!)


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Re: Hey Howdy ! [Re: AlKaBonGG]
    #5501135 - 04/10/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

any oriental/chinese foodstore should stock agar-agar.


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Re: Hey Howdy ! [Re: AlKaBonGG]
    #5501138 - 04/10/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

AlKaBonGG said:
It shows me how to inoculate into PDYA(or MEA)grow the mycelim in PDY and take it out to dry in bout 12 days and extract the Psylicybin from it with the absolute methyl.




I wouldn't waste my time.


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Re: Hey Howdy ! [Re: AlKaBonGG]
    #5501156 - 04/10/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Oh! I see! You don't want to grow mushrooms? You want to grow mycellium and extract the active alkaloids?

This is a mushroom growing forum. Growing mycellium is pretty damned easy. You don't need all that bullshit to just get some mycellium.

But here's a suggestion: Grow plain old magic mushrooms first! Then experiment later with all that chemical bullshit. The object is to injest some active 'magic' right? Just read up on the basic tek's that are posted above. It's pretty easy and you don't deal with any toxic checmicals(besides lysol, isopropyl alcohol, and bleach.)


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Re: Hey Howdy ! [Re: AlKaBonGG]
    #5501199 - 04/10/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like you're looking to extract psilocybin rather than grow actual mushrooms... "good luck with that" without some cultivating skill and chemistry skills first- I'd also suggest going for some of the simpler grow ideas here and grow actual mushrooms. Its going to yield a lot more, use more accessable materials and simpler methods, and be a lot more rewarding to see actual mushies grow! I'd personally be a bit suspect of any method that claims to "extract" psilocybin from mycelium, seeing as there isn't much psilocybin in mycelium to start with... just because you're reading it in a book doesn't make it so!

That being said... you can find the agar at a health food store, sometimes sold as a bulk powder, sometimes along side suppliments (I believe the company "Now Foods" makes it along with their huge line of suppliments), its a seaweed extract that works like gelatin, and is what vegans use instead of jell-o.

Yeast extract you might find at a health food store, but will more likely need to find a specialty home-brew/microbrew beer shop for it.

Dextrose you may find at a health food store, or would find it at the above mentioned home-brew shop...

"Absolute methyl" is probably methyl alcohol (aka methanol) which you'll find sold as fuels, solvents (paint thinner!) and is sometimes found in antifreeze. Again not something you really want to be playing with in a chemical concoction you plan on ingesting without knowing what you're doing, in my opinion.

Calcium carbonate can be found pretty easily at a garden shop. Its used as a pH buffer in soil mixes. Limestone contains it, and common eggshells are almost pure calcium carbonate.

K2HPO1... I don't know? Potassium phosphate I think? Not something you're going to just walk into a health food store and ask for. You're on your own with that one...


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