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Quick Salvia Question
    #5500567 - 04/10/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I recently ordered some Kava Kava and Kratom from the web and I am receiving some free 5x extract salvia as a gift from the website. I have been reading about salvia for about a year and I plan on giving it a go sometime soon.

I've heard that it is best to use a water pipe with a high butane lighter to smoke salvia. The problem is i just have a normal glass pipe and i dint really want to buy a bubbler or bong due to my current financial situation.

Now to my question, how effective is smoking salvia from a normal glass pipe opposed to a water pipe?

Also, how much 5x would you recommend for a first time trip?


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: KingSpade]
    #5500579 - 04/10/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

A water pipe is preferred cause the smoke can be harsh without it, and it also allows to get a larger hit.

As long as you get a good hit, it wont make mush of a difference. Hold it in until u feel the effects - it will only take a few seconds

Have a good time and good luck. It can be pretty powerful


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5500584 - 04/10/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

thanks for the quick response!


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: KingSpade]
    #5500687 - 04/10/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

less chance of breaking a bong...


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: KingSpade]
    #5500692 - 04/10/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I much prefer a small glass pipe
less salvia extract is required for the same effect when you use a smaller pipe.
and you do not need any torch lighter either.
this also makes it less hot too.
all the good stuff gets into your lungs.
none is left on the ash, and none is left on the cooling walls of the pipe or in the cooling water.

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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5500732 - 04/10/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I much prefer a small glass pipe





Music to my ears, becuase I love my pipe and i'm gonna use it untill it breaks! So would it be a good idea to put a couple little pieces of bud at the bottom of my pipe, and then put the salvia on top so none will fall through the bottom?


Also another concern I had is that nearly everyone says a sitter should definately be used but i want to experience the salvia alone, is this a bad idea?


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: KingSpade]
    #5500851 - 04/10/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

dont worry man, just use the small pipe and a regular lighter.  as long as you get a massive hit, and hold it in for 30 seconds, a hit or two of 5x should be more than enough!

i did salvia my first few time with friends, but honestly they werent much help, and i prefer to sage alone now, as other people tend to try and talk to you or make noises or etc.

as long as you can do it in a comfortable place, and try to keep in mind that you dont need to move anywhere, its all in your head.  lots of people on their first time have an urge to leave the room, or stand up, or walk around, just to prove they can still do it.  however, thats not the point of salvia.. it is a mental thing, and when you try to move, thats when you start to take risks, not because of the drug itself, but because of your clumsy ass trying to fight the drug  :grin:


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: kotik]
    #5500866 - 04/10/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Its so nice to have access to the shroomery for good information!


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: KingSpade]
    #5500908 - 04/10/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I noticed no one answered your last question; If what you're getting is 1 gram, start out with maybe 1/6 of a gram. You don't even really have to measure it if you don't want to...just put a couple small pinches in the bowl, and just take two or three large tokes. If there's some left, just leave it, or if you are physically able to still smoke it, then go for it.

It's only 5x, so I would assume you'd still be functioning SOMEWHAT normally. Different people have different levels of tolerance. Try it in complete darkness...it's simply confounding.


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: Psilocyan]
    #5500972 - 04/10/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i would buy purple sticky brand next time, i would also use a torch lighter, try making a bong next time it isnt hard, even a gravity for your 5x would work! Out of a small pipe i would recommend 20x or 15x, the higher the better ya know?
But damm sooo expensive! And i like the shroom high better!


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: HorusTh3Chrous]
    #5501091 - 04/10/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It's probably worth mentioning that Salvia seems to have massively different effects on different people.

One of my friends smoked a bowl of 15X and totally wigged out. He thought that he had been standing by a swimming pool and had taken a drug at the swimming pool that was causing him to hallucinate ripping through reality and back into my room when he came back. He thought that the swimming pool was the real place and my room was a hallucination caused by the drug! He said he won't touch Salvia again.

Another one of my friends smoked a bowl of the same stuff. He tried it 3 times and barely felt anything.

For me, the effects lie somewhere between these two extremes.


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: TurricaN]
    #5501220 - 04/10/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah...i picked up on some plain leaf...wasnt all that great for me...but it was a hoot watchin my friends do it. One of my friends just laught hysterically for about 4 minutes straight. But for plain leaf...they say to take a gram size hit (or two .5 gram hits if you dont have the lung capacity)...5x would be 1/5....10x would be 1/10 etc etc...if you like that...try a lil more next time.


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: HorusTh3Chrous]
    #5501567 - 04/10/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I always heard there was a reverse tolerance w/ salvia...

If there is a reverse tolerance then why aren't people smoking straight leaf?

Speaking of straight leaf, does anyone have any experience with it?

edit: errr any *more* people? ya'll snuck in those two posts...


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: fazdazzle]
    #5501579 - 04/10/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

IME, using a smaller pipe is better for salvia... so your good


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: danlennon3]
    #5501699 - 04/10/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks again for all of your comments, I really appreciate it.

I'm not really anxious to try the salvia, due to the amount of power it contains. I might not even try it out for a couple of weeks, or untill i feel the time is right :stoned:


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: KingSpade]
    #5502393 - 04/11/06 04:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i wouldnt suggest the purple sticky brand, unless you can get a good deal.


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: KingSpade]
    #5502397 - 04/11/06 04:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

start small and work up
grass works with almost continuous smooth increments of pleasure
salvia works with quantized levels of psychedellic phenomena
some of the lower levels are not obvious and a person can think there is no effect, especially since none of the marijuana increments of pleasure are happenning.

go to http://www.sagewisdom.org
and see the user's guide.
especially try to understand the salvia scale of effects.
accidentally going into level 5 and 6 are alarming, but incrementing up to level 4 will not require a sitter.

for me 1/20th of a gram of 5x will produce a level 5-6 experience using a small pipe and regular lighter. I am 140 lbs, start with less and work up.


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Re: Quick Salvia Question [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5503836 - 04/11/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm 150 pounds so i'm assuming I would have the same tolerance level as you I would imagine, however i've heard salvia works differently on everybody, so I'll just have to see how it goes. I'll be sure to leave a trip report sometime soon.


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