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Offlineheidegger
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I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded
    #5500168 - 04/10/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

As the right-wingers here have their "I'm pretty sure that France is fucking retarded" thread, I think it is fair to start a similar thread about Italy - something for the left-wingers.

The predictions for the outcome of the recent elections show that Berlusconi might win again. At least the outcome will be very very close to 50:50. As a European, I am shocked. Its not just because it is bad for Italy or the European Union. It's because my view of the world and humanity is shattered once again.

Unbelievably bad economic development, corruption, fascists (like the granddaughter of Benito Mussolini) as part of the new alliance, evasion of the law, control over the media by the paranoid billionaire Berlusconi, draconian drug laws, name-calling voters of parties from the middle-left block - the list is endless. Unbelievable.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: heidegger]
    #5500255 - 04/10/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yep, it looks like the Italian voters are retarded.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: heidegger]
    #5500377 - 04/10/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

heidegger writes:

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...fascists (like the granddaughter of Benito Mussolini) as part of the new alliance...




I'm not saying you are wrong about this, but do you consider the granddaughter of Mussolini a fascist merely because she is his granddaughter or does she belong to the Italian Fascist party or something?

Because I will admit I didn't know his granddaughter was even running for office, let alone know what party she belongs to. Did she get elected?




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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: Phred]
    #5500529 - 04/10/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Don't forget that Vichy France handed over plenty of Jews to the Nazis for extermination.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: heidegger]
    #5500818 - 04/10/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I would be quite happy if you could point to some actual specific example of retardedness. Re-electing Berlusconi doesn't quite rise to that level.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: heidegger]
    #5501703 - 04/10/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

don't forget the mob ties!

yeah, the italians are presented with any good options.

what's with all these media giants gaining political
office vis a vis their broadcast channels.

it's so contrived.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: heidegger]
    #5501707 - 04/10/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

and for the record, if you really want to attack
conservatism, at least pick a leader that's remotely
conservative.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: afoaf]
    #5501820 - 04/10/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yea, like this guy.



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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: DieCommie]
    #5502100 - 04/11/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Now it seems that the opposition might have gained a microscopic majority, but there is still no final decision.

"I'm not saying you are wrong about this, but do you consider the granddaughter of Mussolini a fascist merely because she is his granddaughter or does she belong to the Italian Fascist party or something?"

I would certainly not call her a fascist just because of her ancestry. It is because of her political viewpoints and the adoration of her fathers politics. A quote from her, directed to a gay politican that critizised her: "It's better to be fascist than to be a fag!".


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: heidegger]
    #5502121 - 04/11/06 12:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

and this granddaughter is an ally of Berlusconi?


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: heidegger]
    #5502163 - 04/11/06 12:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, her small party is part of the union of the 'middle-right' parties led by Berlusconi. Contrary to the US, there is a multitude of parties in the italian parliament.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: DieCommie]
    #5502392 - 04/11/06 04:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

She was set to join a position in Berlusconi's cabinet if he won. It would have been fitting.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: heidegger]
    #5502522 - 04/11/06 06:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Yes, her small party is part of the union of the 'middle-right' parties led by Berlusconi.




So is the party she belongs to a Fascist party or isn't it? Is she running for office or isn't she?

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Contrary to the US, there is a multitude of parties in the italian parliament.




Indeed there are. This is why no single party in Italy can hold power -- there must ALWAYS be a coalition of parties. The problem with coalitions is that you sometimes end up with members of the coalition who wouldn't be your first choice in an ideal world. Obviously some coalition members hold positions other coalition members don't -- if that weren't the case there wouldn't be so many different parties in the first place. The idea is to gather together enough of these smaller fringe groups to win the election while keeping them small enough that you don't have to follow each and every one of their platforms to keep them in line once elected. This isn't a particularly easy thing to pull off, but the multi-party environment (especially in Italy) leaves no other viable option.

Do you really believe that if Mussolini's granddaughter gets elected and becomes part of the governing coalition Italy will become a fascist state once again?




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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: Phred]
    #5502545 - 04/11/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The recent economis had a write up on this election.

Summary, much isn't expected from Prodi, but anything
is better than Berlusconi.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: Phred]
    #5502931 - 04/11/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Phred said:
I'm not saying you are wrong about this, but do you consider the granddaughter of Mussolini a fascist merely because she is his granddaughter or does she belong to the Italian Fascist party or something?



Well, according to Wikipedia:

Quote:

Alessandra Mussolini (born December 30, 1962) is an Italian fascist politician and Member of the European Parliament.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandra_Mussolini

So yes, she is a fascist.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: Silversoul]
    #5503226 - 04/11/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

facist broads are hot


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: afoaf]
    #5503259 - 04/11/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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afoaf said:
facist broads are hot






not bad


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: d33p]
    #5503658 - 04/11/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder if fascist broads leave skid marks on the bed.


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5507079 - 04/12/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Where are you going with this Randall?  :laugh:

Anyone know if Berlusconi is still clinging on demanding a recount?


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Re: I'm pretty sure that Italy is fucking retarded [Re: Alex213]
    #5507677 - 04/12/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yes he is. Oh, and the party of Mussolini did not make it into parliament, too bad.


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