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Ginseng1
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Redstorm]
#5502041 - 04/11/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: If you would have read the thread instead of thinking of more personal attacks to aim at Daimyo, you would have seen that I already did.
i think you need to stop riding daimyo's cock.
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daimyo
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Ginseng1]
#5502044 - 04/11/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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PA&L isn't a place for casual conversation. This is where some of the thinkers gather to iron out, and express, their political and social views.
You have contributed nothing of any value to this thread. You've cried racism, tried to appeal to readers through emotion, and made personal attacks/flames. That is it. The three weakest things a person can bring to the table, and you brought them all.
After your first set of posts(crying racism, and flaming me) you left. That was once. Then you did it again, and now you're back for a third round.
I am going to ask you to refrain from posting in this thread unless you have anything worthwhile to add. If you chose to ignore this I will have to bring this harrasment to the attention of the administrators.
If you want a flamefest, swing by OTD.
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MushmanTheManic said: It seems obvious certian regulars on this forum were never part of the Debate Team during High School.
Well it doesnt take a genius to figure that out. Who the fuck joins debate teams in high school.
Daimyo doesnt like Mexicans anybody that CANT SEE THAT IS A FUCKIN RETARD!!!! Just read the mans original post.
fuck.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Ginseng1]
#5502063 - 04/11/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ginseng1 said:
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Redstorm said: If you would have read the thread instead of thinking of more personal attacks to aim at Daimyo, you would have seen that I already did.
i think you need to stop riding daimyo's cock.
I'll just wait until a mod sees this so you have get your first official warning.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: daimyo]
#5502083 - 04/11/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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daimyo said: After your first set of posts(crying racism, and flaming me) you left. That was once. Then you did it again, and now you're back for a third round.
I dont know what you are talking about. I was here ealier (once) and I am here now. That makes this the second round. Right now you have lost all your credibility.
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I am going to ask you to refrain from posting in this thread unless you have anything worthwhile to add. If you chose to ignore this I will have to bring this harrasment to the attention of the administrators.
I have three things to say to this...
1. Fuck you
2. Fuck you
3. Fuck you.
Now go "tell" on me.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Ginseng1]
#5502104 - 04/11/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ginseng1 said: I dont know what you are talking about. I was here ealier (once) and I am here now. That makes this the second round. Right now you have lost all your credibility.
We had an exchange starting at 11:27AM EST, and ending at 11:59AM EST. You then came back to tell me how I am "full of shit" at 2:35PM EST(2.5 hours later). And now, we have this exchange starting at 1:46AM EST. That's 3. My credibility remains, and if you had ANY it would have just bottomed out.
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Ginseng1 said: I have three things to say to this...
1. Fuck you
2. Fuck you
3. Fuck you.
Now go "tell" on me.
Done.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Ginseng1]
#5502109 - 04/11/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I want to add one more thing.
I never cried racism. You keep saying that I am "crying" racism. No, thats what you assume I am doing, because you KNOW you are.
All I did was point out the distasteful manner in which you put forth your arguements. You are the one who took it as far as even to use the word "racist". Once you did that, right awat I knew it was true.
Thats like an overweight person saying "Hey you called me a FATASS!", when all the other person said was, "man, you gotta chill on them cheetos".
N'am sayin? Peace be with you.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: daimyo]
#5502116 - 04/11/06 12:29 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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daimyo said:
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Ginseng1 said: I dont know what you are talking about. I was here ealier (once) and I am here now. That makes this the second round. Right now you have lost all your credibility.
We had an exchange starting at 11:27AM EST, and ending at 11:59AM EST. You then came back to tell me how I am "full of shit" at 2:35PM EST(2.5 hours later). And now, we have this exchange starting at 1:46AM EST. That's 3. My credibility remains, and if you had ANY it would have just bottomed out.
Damn... you've definately had alot of practice.
For that I give you daps
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Ginseng1]
#5502213 - 04/11/06 01:11 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ginseng1 said: I have three things to say to this...
1. Fuck you
2. Fuck you
3. Fuck you.
Now go "tell" on me.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Ginseng1]
#5502508 - 04/11/06 06:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Flaming is not permitted in this forum, as is clearly described in the forum rules sticky post at the top of the first page of the forum. Banned from the forum for 24 hours.
Phred
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: daimyo]
#5502560 - 04/11/06 07:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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daimyo said: 1. They are not "undocumented workers". They are criminals and deserve to be treated as such.
2. If they go, America will not fall to bits. Contrary to what some of these asshole talking heads might tell you, Americans will do the jobs they are stealing. So far today I've seen two roofing crews, and a landscaping crew, compromised of legal citizens. These are the jobs that "nobody else will do"
3. Illegal immigrants are part of the reason wages are stagnant. They work for less, so companies don't have to pay a reasonable wage.
4. Any company that hires an illegal immigrant should be fined 2% of their annual earnings per head for the first 3, and 5% per head for each thereafter.
5. Protesting in the streets, waving Mexican flags is despicable. You came to America to steal money, but that wasn't enough. Now you have to march and disrespect the opportunities afforded to you by blatantly displaying your aversion to assimilation.
In closing,
spot on.
it's so retarded listening to these people cry..."my father was here for 30 years and they deported him so he can't be with his family anymore"
you're telling me that over a 30 year period, he couldn't get his fucking papers? couldn't get an employer to sponsor him?
then he deserves to be sent back and your animosity should be placed with your irresponsible father and not the system that is in place to help people like him.
furthermore, the people in these crowds...how many have managed to pick up the language? how many know the pledge, can name the guy who chopped down the cherry tree or even the current Sec. of state?!
what a farce.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Phred]
#5502574 - 04/11/06 07:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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> Banned from the forum for 24 hours.
Much nicer than I would have been...
Getting back on subject... sort of... other than the obvious risk of riots, has nobody else thought that all these rallies by illegal immigrants for illegal immigrants would be a great place for INS to find illegal immigrants to deport?
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Seuss]
#5502582 - 04/11/06 07:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ding ding ding
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: Seuss]
#5503029 - 04/11/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am absolutely dumbfounded that there hasn't been any such program. My only guess is that they fear them too much. If you sent 100 agents out to check on 100,000+ people, a beat down will almost surely ensue. For any chance of success you'd need a militarized checkpoint IMO.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: daimyo]
#5503200 - 04/11/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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that's a PR nightmare, brother.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: daimyo]
#5503247 - 04/11/06 12:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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daimyo said: I am absolutely dumbfounded that there hasn't been any such program. My only guess is that they fear them too much. If you sent 100 agents out to check on 100,000+ people, a beat down will almost surely ensue. For any chance of success you'd need a militarized checkpoint IMO.
That wouldn't be a problem, they never fight. They just run like cockroaches when the lights are turned on. There is always that one pesky one though. See evidence below.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8153017803097542793
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: afoaf]
#5503373 - 04/11/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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afoaf said: that's a PR nightmare, brother.
Exactly, the media would have a field day. All they would need is one good shot of INS detaining protestors and BOOM instant scandal.
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shit yeah there are too many illegals, but what needs to be done is make it easier to get in legally and MUCH harder to get in illegally.
this way only the american loving ones will come in and the ones that want to reap the benefits cannot. hteres no way we can help everyone who needs aid, but why the hell not help those who can scratch our backs while we scratch theirs.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants [Re: afoaf]
#5503418 - 04/11/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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afoaf said: furthermore, the people in these crowds...how many have managed to pick up the language? how many know the pledge, can name the guy who chopped down the cherry tree or even the current Sec. of state?!
what a farce.
Yeah but you could ask the same questions for most American born students coming out of the public school system 
I'm with people that we need to start enforcing our laws about immigration and legal citizenry, but all this sentiment about how Mexicans should "integrate" is stupid. Why shouldn't they wave their flags and celebrate their heritage? Why shouldn't they converse in spanish? Why shouldn't they eat tortillas? Sure illegals who come across the border to make money and then high tail it back to Mexico are a strain on the economy and we need to control that, but that doesn't mean that an active Mexican American culture made up of legal immigrants is a strain on America in general.
This is America, dammit, we're chock full of people from the whole world. That's kind of what its all about... "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" As long as they love lady liberty and come here according to our laws they should be welcome. The poem says nothing about "must speak english" Stop trying to get everyone to be just like you.
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in my town, the reason kids come out of the school system so poorly prepared is due in great part to the great toll that illegal immigrants have placed on the system, both in terms of services rendered and additional load as a result of their inability to communicate in english, both parents and children.
I don't believe anyone has stated that they should not still celebrate their roots, language and heritage, but it's expected that immigrants to america learn the nation's language so that they can become a productive member of society instead of creating these protectionist enclaves within the nation that foment these broad support networks that help perpetuate the fraud and theft from the coffers you and I pay in to.
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