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i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but...
    #5499090 - 04/10/06 08:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70619-0.html?tw=rss.index

look at that. they ARE secretly wiretapping the net and our phones. they can and will do whatever they want, whether its legal or not. No one is safe from the fascist govt weve given all of our power to.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5499309 - 04/10/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Damn, and I just ran out of tin foil this morning.

The government can listen to my phone calls or snoop my network traffic all they like. I don't care... as long as the information gathered is not used in a court of law or given to domestic law enforcement for use against US citizens.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Seuss]
    #5499779 - 04/10/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Seuss said:
Damn, and I just ran out of tin foil this morning.

The government can listen to my phone calls or snoop my network traffic all they like. I don't care... as long as the information gathered is not used in a court of law or given to domestic law enforcement for use against US citizens.




i agree, but just the fact that they have that info is enough to piss me off because if they would obtain it illegally, which they have, im sure they will use it illegally.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5500366 - 04/10/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thats the real kicker, isn't it... If only we could trust our own governments... :frown:


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Seuss]
    #5500648 - 04/10/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They've become too corrupt, and I fear that at this point they will have to burn themselves out before the needed change is brought. Essentially anyone who runs for office will not be a good leader, precisely because they are seeking power and control. The ideal leader should not have any desire to lead.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: dblaney]
    #5500733 - 04/10/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

fucking government bullshit.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5502553 - 04/11/06 07:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i was telling someone about this article a few days ago. and he said "i dont care, im not doing anything illegal."

was just kinda sad, but somewhat true at the same time.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5508970 - 04/12/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know those types of people rdr4don(honestly WTF?) they dont get it because they have no imagination which is why they didnt get themselves in trouble like the rest of us in the first place. In other words they are SHEEP, or if you prefer, a model citizen(yuck).

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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5511988 - 04/13/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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rDr4g0n said:
i was telling someone about this article a few days ago. and he said "i dont care, im not doing anything illegal."

was just kinda sad, but somewhat true at the same time.




what your friend really said was "baaaah baaaaah"
thats the proble...they tell you "oh its not a invasion of your privacy as long as your not doing anything illegal...if you were doing something illegal then you were wrong anyway right...so it doesnt matter if we snoop"...wich is total bullshit...what happens when they are snooping and make watching any type of porn illegal...and hes strokin it madly at some hot blond bouncin on some guys stick? then hes in jail for something he feels he should be able to enjoy in the privacy of his home...
the problem is people dont care about your personal freedom since they arent doing anything illegal...but if something they love to do were made illegal they would get all up in arms and wanna overthrow the gov...thats just the way people are..if they feel like they are unaffected by a law they dont care about it.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: hIgHdRoLoVeR]
    #5512073 - 04/13/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

we are all sitting here watching what this government is doing and no one is doing a damn thing about it


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: 013akilper]
    #5512358 - 04/13/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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013akilper said:
we are all sitting here watching what this government is doing and no one is doing a damn thing about it




what do you propose than? 90% of the american populace doesnt care because, as was previously stated, theyre sheep.

how can you help people that dont want help?


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5512965 - 04/13/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

should you help people that dont want help?


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: DieCommie]
    #5530907 - 04/18/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

heh now that link doesn't work


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Rustifer]
    #5531218 - 04/18/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The link dosen't work because it has a comma in it.  You've gotta copy & paste it.  Yeah, I thought the same thing. :wink:


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: shymanta]
    #5535215 - 04/19/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

sry the code for the site did that link automatically.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5538033 - 04/20/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I hate the government. I take it personally every time a traffic light turns yellow.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5543638 - 04/22/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The age old question comes to mind: Is a slave really a slave if they do not know that they are a slave?


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Darcho]
    #5547283 - 04/23/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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The age old question comes to mind: Is a slave really a slave if they do not know that they are a slave?




Yes


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: barfightlard]
    #5549753 - 04/24/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thought this was appropriate...
State of the End of the Millenium Adress-Bad Religion

Neighbours, nobody loves you like we do.
Neighbors, your government has triumphed in finally making you a public fit
for the 21st century.
Never before has a governing body shown so much concern for the economic
well-being of its subjects.
Today we have insulated you from countless factions who threathens your
financial viability; such as the poor; the idealistic foreigners still
clinging to their childish notions of social welfare; why, you're even kept
uninformed of useless propagandist journalism that reports alleged
violations of human rights (We all know they wouldn't have been punished if
they hadn't been doing something wrong!!). And who better to dispens such
blantently evident factoids but a self-appointed authority like myself?
Acid Rain is a thing of the past... Too many possible causes, too little
signifigance for our modern thinking public, besides industrial
manufacturing is at an all time low anyway, who needs those narrow minded
laborers anyway. Too many mouths to feed, and to many burden on the pay
roll! Who needs 'em? Here in the land of the free-time. Someother ass
back-ward country will give us what we need by exploiting its uneducated
children.
The Internet has expanded our ability to pacify average americans better
than ever by offering fantastical adventures to every corner of the
imagination. Your home office is the window to your world, and the heart of
your social life. Such reclusive behaviour helps clear the roads and public
works from overburden like the lower middle-class and others who depend
shamelessly on their government. Today you are freer than ever to do what
you want, provided you can pay for it!
Remeber, the first word in USA is US
We have arrived neighbours, we are the priviliged elite!


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: EmpTyCLosEtSpAcE]
    #5550817 - 04/24/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Welcome to the 4th Reich...


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #5554149 - 04/25/06 06:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

wow. those crazy rednecks training militias may be right about something


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5554567 - 04/25/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

well they have a point but they are going about it wrong. "those who live by the sword will die by it."


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: blaze2]
    #5558479 - 04/26/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I dunno, if things continue the way they are the u.s. will be ripe for revolution but anything like that will be dismissed as domestic terrorism not that i advocate it but at this point our options are getting smaller i dont know if we could wait another two years to get rid of these assholes.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: BatCountry]
    #5558810 - 04/26/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Wait a few years and there might not be an america at all anymore.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: blaze2]
    #5560488 - 04/26/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

We are fucking up rather hard, aren't we?


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: BatCountry]
    #5562362 - 04/27/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)


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if things continue the way they are the u.s. will be ripe for revolution



ripe for revolution? we are not dealing with growing a fruit here.. the only kind of revolution that would be worth starting at this point would be a peaceful one, or maybe just a group of crazy political radicals. unfortunately our tyrannous government has grown far to powerful for a revolution of those measures to actually get anything done.
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but anything like that will be dismissed as domestic terrorism




it sounds like you are advocating a violent revolution. this needs to be thought very deeply into, and the idea should probabaly be dismissed. The collateral damage of a violent revolution would strike tragedy, let's not forget about the fact that Uncle Sam and his "war machine" would track you down like dogs. If there was a violent revolution it would turn into a civil war, and do you really think a group of crazed-radicals would dare even confront the kind of head-exploding technology the bush administration would unleash.
It would be hippie mass-murder.

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BatCountry said:not that i advocate it, but at this point our options are getting smaller



You DO or DO NOT advocate a revolution? What are these other options you do seem to advocate?

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BatCountry said:i dont know if we could wait another two years to get rid of these assholes



It doesn't look like America is going to change it's ways, even after Bush is gone. Something must be done, and something must be done now- but it seems nobody can figure out what it is.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5562386 - 04/27/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

our culture has been carefully manipulated into the rut we are in. were passive, selfish, lazy and fat. what easier people to rule than americans who go to work at their crappy job and only care about hurrying home to watch american idol and eat mcdonalds. we feel like we are free, so we dont fight or fear; but we arent really free. even if we were upset about something we feel like there is nothing we can do. just vote and thats about it.

americans dont know that WE run the country. the government was SUPPOSED to bow down to us. when we complained they HAD to listen because we were the constituency. now were taxpayers, and thats it. we pay their paychecks, and thats what they want.

career politicians are a sin. politicians were supposed to be people like us. regular people who live a regular life and have regular joe ideas. that way the person in office is in touch with the people because he is one of the people. thats why hes there for short terms and leaves. because hes a regular joe serving his time to the country then continuing his life as a farmer or whatever.

who decided to put rich oil companies in power? what the fuck do they know about deciding whether to spend the last 5 bucks on food or put gas in teh car?

the rich get richer and more powerful. they appoint the politicians and they get waht they want. corporations run this country.

the internet is a huge tool for free speech, collaboration, enlightenment, communication. anyone can use it. people are getting smarter! thats why the govt is trying so hard to tap it and control it. FCC wants to tax it, major companies want to break it into tiered access. other countries want control of it. its the last chance americans have to show teh government who runs the country, who pays their checks, and who has the power...

oh wait, ill do it later, my pizzas here and american idol is coming on.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5562410 - 04/27/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You my friend seem to have the inate ability to twist ones words to meet your own sick fetish, I wasnt talking about assasinations, riots, and a coup detat. As much as i would like to see red mist shoot out of the back of bush's head. However I was stating that daily, u.s. citizens continue to become more and more outraged at how our government has been conducting itself. The people of this country will only stand up for themselves once they have been pushed to far, a draft for example. i do not advocate violence as a means of resolve to our current situation, I merely stated that at this point it is only a matter of starting the social reform, redistribution of wealth, and change of foreign policy that inevitably needs to take place lest this country collapse in on itself. By the way nuggetpouch your mother says Hi


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: BatCountry]
    #5562470 - 04/27/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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BatCountry said:
I wasnt talking about assasinations, riots, and a coup detat. As much as i would like to see red mist shoot out of the back of bush's head.  However I was stating that daily, u.s. citizens continue to become more and more outraged at how our government has been conducting itself.  The people of this country will only stand up for themselves once they have been pushed to far, a draft for example.  i do not advocate violence as a means of resolve to our current situation, I merely stated that at this point it is only a matter of starting the social reform, redistribution of wealth, and change of foreign policy that inevitably needs to take place lest this country collapse in on itself.


 
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You talk alout about this change BatCountry, but what have you done?
Also, if you are going to make a post with such childish nonsense as
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BatCountry said:
You my friend seem to have the inate ability to twist ones words to meet your own sick fetish




You might wanna actually quote somebody so you are not making a fool of yourself.
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BatCountry said:
By the way nuggetpouch your mother says Hi



how old is this kid, eleven? this is the shroomery..... maybe YOU should find a message board for prepubescent middleschoolers who think they are funny.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5562498 - 04/27/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Oh my goodness!



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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5562555 - 04/27/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

take your bourgoise ideals and go play with the altar boys in the church playground, there are some of us who are actually trying to make a difference and change this world for the better, i began posting on the shroomery to share my ideas with like minded people in the hopes of finding others who wish to do the same, you sit back and and criticize those of us that have ideas when you have demostrated nothing except the lack of motiviation to try and make a change. but dont worry I will work with you and in time you can become more than just an empty husk of counter arguments. Oh, and call danny goddamnit.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: BatCountry]
    #5562597 - 04/27/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5563168 - 04/27/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Have faith Batcountry God will settle this soon. Global warming, world war, corrupting the earth. We will bring about our own doom, and people will be surprised to see that God has already told us how it will go. I know this is the wrong forum for htis, but honestly at this point the best thing to do is keep the commandments of God and Jesus. I will not be partaking in any violence, or trespass against other men. Those days are drawing to a close I think. Demonstrations will do little execpt paint a target on us these days. The beast is far too large to be toppled by any political or socail movement, and any show of force will get you killed or quickly and quietly thrown in Jail. All we have anymore is faith.

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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: blaze2]
    #5563307 - 04/27/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well if ur of that faith then I'm sure I read that the beast only gets 7 years to spread his death and decay, and that time is shortened because of the blood of the innocent. (yours, mine)


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5563326 - 04/27/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The problem is'nt the government. The problem is the people, our government is only an extension of what it's citizen's want...


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: snowflake]
    #5563427 - 04/27/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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The problem is'nt the government. The problem is the people, our government is only an extension of what it's citizen's want...




i believe it faulty to put faith into the idea of democracy, especially when dealing with the USA.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: snowflake]
    #5563446 - 04/27/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

some innocents(innocent to the situation? or innocent of all wrong is the question.) will die but everyone has to die eventually man, and what better way than to be part of the endtimes? go out in a big way right? anyways not everyone will die. If you are true to teh word of God and listen to his voice then he will deliver you out of the tribulatiosn or is that not also in there micro?


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: snowflake]
    #5563472 - 04/27/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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The problem is'nt the government.  The problem is the people, our government is only an extension of what it's citizen's want...




Yeah, that looks real good on paper, in practice elected officials conspire to do whatever they want once they're elected, then make some sort of half assed effort to look good during election years. It's become a complete farce. They show you two morons and say pick one. Big fucking deal. :thumbdown:


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5564037 - 04/27/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

at the same time hes right. America likes revenge. our government reflects that.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: blaze2]
    #5564095 - 04/27/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Make a people live high on the hog and then they will get fat and wink at whatever else you're doing.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5565439 - 04/28/06 12:21 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

true but at teh same time show me a law abiding american who thinks its wrong to put men in jail. Just show me one and I'll apologize for saying americans like revenge. Otherwise it stands as a truth.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: blaze2]
    #5566452 - 04/28/06 09:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

End of times huh? I'm gonna need a LOT more drugs to get through that, can i get weed into hell or will they search me? shit for hell I might need some ketamine, and some nitrous too. I dont mean to mock your faith, i'm just joking. But I just dont think sitting back and praying is the way to go we need to stop this supposed apocalypse before it starts I'd think even a man of the Church would agree...Right? However the idea of taking nitrous in hell is somewhat comical I'd think Satan would want some.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: BatCountry]
    #5566477 - 04/28/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

prayer is one piece of the pie. god wants us to be men of faith and action. action doesnt mean killing people, but it does mean "making a scene" so to speak.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: blaze2]
    #5566505 - 04/28/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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true but at teh same time show me a law abiding american who thinks its wrong to put men in jail. Just show me one and I'll apologize for saying americans like revenge. Otherwise it stands as a truth.




Well, when you say "law abiding" you ham up the whole question brother. Doesn't the "law" inherently include jails?

"Law" works by smearing someone's reputation and then removing them from view. Find "law abiding Americans" and you have located the fearful and unbelieving sheep that obey today's laws to impress their masters and stay out of jail.

If you want to find some real American Patriots, you might want to check the prison system.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: BatCountry]
    #5566564 - 04/28/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The world has to end, otherwise there could never be a new Heaven and a new Earth. Just kick back and enjoy the ride, be kind to others, and share your spiritual wealth! If we could actually stop the apocolypse from happening there would be no mention made in Revelations about an apocolypse at all now would there?


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5566838 - 04/28/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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true but at teh same time show me a law abiding american who thinks its wrong to put men in jail. Just show me one and I'll apologize for saying americans like revenge. Otherwise it stands as a truth.




Well, when you say "law abiding" you ham up the whole question brother. Doesn't the "law" inherently include jails?

"Law" works by smearing someone's reputation and then removing them from view. Find "law abiding Americans" and you have located the fearful and unbelieving sheep that obey today's laws to impress their masters and stay out of jail.

If you want to find some real American Patriots, you might want to check the prison system.




True enough man, but at the same time the americans that fit this bill feel no remorse for stickign a guy in a concrete tomb, with no sky, no fresh air, Cold, sterile, and soul crushing environment. The point of jail is crush someones spirit. No one see anything wrong with that. If someone must be seperated from society is one thing. But jail is the inhumane answer. THey justify it by saying a man doesnt have to go to jail. He shouldnt want to. That doesnt change a bit what they do in revenge, of our trespass. There is no forgiveness, it is a Godless system. Church should be seperated from state, not God. God has to be part of the state. He is part of everything.

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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: BatCountry]
    #5566857 - 04/28/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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End of times huh? I'm gonna need a LOT more drugs to get through that, can i get weed into hell or will they search me? shit for hell I might need some ketamine, and some nitrous too. I dont mean to mock your faith, i'm just joking. But I just dont think sitting back and praying is the way to go we need to stop this supposed apocalypse before it starts I'd think even a man of the Church would agree...Right? However the idea of taking nitrous in hell is somewhat comical I'd think Satan would want some.




Your looking at it all wrong man. Like mircro said these people have to go the Good and Righteous will never escape persecution until it happens. How can you change the mind of politicians who see just as many people supporting the war than those who dont. They will do as they want and as mirco pointed out if you can avoid it wasnt teh apocolypse. When it is for real its for real.

Also I am not a man of the Church I take offense to being lumped with the sheep. The "christians" in teh churches wont be surviving the apocolypse either. Hippcrites all.

God said "worship in your closet" and they built churches. They see no contradiction.

Jesus said after teh resurrection when the apostles bowed before him as a God, "Nay, rise and worship God even as I do." Jesus is not a God, nor should we worship him. Doing so goes against his direct command. People dont care.

Here is where you can find God, not a church.

"Lift a stone and you will find me, Turn a leaf and I am there."

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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: blaze2]
    #5566927 - 04/28/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know I like having church in my closet... 400w of HPS to light up the temple is a glorious thing indeed!  :rastana:


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5566943 - 04/28/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That is much closer to actual worship than reciting lines with no meaning.


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    #5567003 - 04/28/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Growing sacred herb in spite of a ridiculous and oppressive entity is doing a good service for the lord your god.


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    #5569922 - 04/29/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

they will use this information obtained illegally, to find out a time, place, person, or thing they can use legally. Of course they won't mention they obtained this evidence location/info through their illegal taps.

Long live King Bush... :bowdown:
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    #5570004 - 04/29/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh I have nerfed my activities as of late, that's for sure. Can't wait 'till this storm finally breaks and we get some sunshine.


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Re: i know im always ranting about how evil the US govt is, but... [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5575993 - 05/01/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Oh I have nerfed my activities as of late, that's for sure. Can't wait 'till this storm finally breaks and we get some sunshine.




Me too, but it looks to be a long, dark winter...


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Oh I have nerfed my activities as of late, that's for sure. Can't wait 'till this storm finally breaks and we get some sunshine.




Me too, but it looks to be a long, dark *nuclear* winter...




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Oh I have nerfed my activities as of late, that's for sure. Can't wait 'till this storm finally breaks and we get some sunshine.




Me too, but it looks to be a long, dark winter...




Then let's keep the fires burning.  :gethigh:


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