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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: Sage]
    #5500339 - 04/10/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you for the insight kaniz. and infact i was depressed. new situations and family split.. at the same time i found out i had became a father. difficult things to cope with.


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: Sage]
    #5500387 - 04/10/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

sage, how tall are you. you stated you were down to 120 and are now at 145. what was your original start weight, how quickly did you get to 120 and how long did it take you to get to 145? i'm curious b/c this sounds familiar.


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: iateshaggy]
    #5500403 - 04/10/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

5'9 120 2 years ago this coming 4 o july. now a current 145 5'9.
took me 2 months to get from mb (125-130) down to 120lbs.


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: iateshaggy]
    #5500440 - 04/10/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I believe the fact you did not eat for a while might have put you in an altered state (See Biology of human starvation). Im not gonna come to the defense of a substance with passion, your certain situation sounds very uncommon, hell I never heard of anything like that happening. Sounds like there was something else wrong with you that caused you to react to the drug that way. I would stop taking the acid on a schedule, it is relatively safe, but is known for giving certain individuals temporal to permanent issues.


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: Jon]
    #5500517 - 04/10/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've had similar (although far less extreme) things before, where I got depressed - and simply stopped eating for awhile. Normally, it would be about a max of 3 days, then I'd realize I felt like shit, and then would force myself to eat something - during those periods, I'd be super depressed. Even getting up to goto the bathroom would feel like a chore. I'd just want to lay in bed all day, every day - no watching TV, no listening to music, everything just held ZERO interest to me. Combine this with the lethargy and exhaustion from not eating, and it can become a pretty shitty situation. While saying "Just eat" may seem like a simple solution, the issues may often run much deeper than that.

This wasnt linked to drug use, just depression and anxiety.

While Sage may of made the wrong jump of conclusion of 'deathly ill due to mushrooms' - it does seem like the mushrooms triggered a depressive period.

It seems like he had ALOT of issues going on at the time : Depressed, Family split, new father - thats ALOT to have on your plate, and is the kind of thing that could of easily lead to an extreme period of depression with or without drugs, the mushrooms probably just kicked him into it sooner/harder then he would of othrewise.

Now, if these issues are resolved, and you are coping with them better, and are generally in a happier/healthier mindset - then that is good, and you could possibly start tripping again, but you just really need to make sure that those issues are resolved and dealt with, or it could possibly trigger a relapse which would not be a good thing.


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: Jon]
    #5500526 - 04/10/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I haven't read the entire thread, but is it possible you might have just been sick? Perhaps the mushrooms temporarily weakened your immune system or you just had something coming on already. I know when I'm feeling sick I'll often stop eating almost completely (except for the odd scraps of food I'll force down just so I don't starve myself). Otherwise I'm not quite sure what to say though. Something does sound a little familiar to me, the whole not wanting to eat thing. I've started getting that for the past few months, it's just like, I'd like something to eat, but nothing sounds good, and the thought of actually eating anything we have just seems revolting to have to chew up and swallow and have digesting in my stomache so I just go without eating until something seems a little more appetizing. Not sure if that's what you had, but it sounded similar


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died from to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mo [Re: Sage]
    #5500610 - 04/10/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You need to follow the other's advice that you chill out with the psychedelics for a while. Loss of appetite is a symptom of depression. As others have said, it could also be a normal sickness that came on at the wrong time when your body was in a weakened state from the mushroom trip. Even so, I would strongly suggest you take a period away from drugs to clear your head and get things straight with yourself. It cannot hurt to do so.

As I side note, both LSD and Psilocybe mushrooms act primarily on the serotonin receptor sites in the brain. They have a very complex interaction with these sites, and do not necessarily deplete the serotonin in the brain, but they definately alter its function.


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 months [Re: Sage]
    #5506272 - 04/12/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hi Sage -

I really felt bad for you after hearing about your experience - it was an unfortunately series of events. When a person becomes disoriented to the point where they are unable to realize that they should eat enough of good quality food, things always get really bad because the longer you do not eat (or drink), the more you forget that you need to. Your brain goes longer and longer without the fuel it needs to think properly. You also should have enough fuel/water for your body to be able to detoxify the drug as well as possible. Then if on top of this you have taken a substance that decreases your desire to eat - Ack ! My grandmother died because she was given drugs that made her not want to eat and she forgot that she needed to drink or eat then she became very confused and died. I have heard that this happens often. You needed food so badly ! When you said you smoked pot when you were so depleted - it made me cringe. When you need rest or food or do not feel good - never take a drug because it takes a lot of energy for a weak body to detoxify the drug - even a drug that is not very toxic. I think that the doctors were right to say that you had worn out your brain (serotinin or whatever) - it is too bad they did not think to ask you if you had eaten enough. If I knew that, I would not have prescibed you even more drugs - like the prescription drugs - I would have asked that a a caring friend or relative take care of you for awhile -feed you good food and drink (whether you want it or not), have you rest and sleep, do not take any drugs and in a few days you would be feeling strong and happy and ready to enjoy your life again.

Why did it happen this way when it did not before ? I don't know if you will ever know. Maybe you were a bit more run down when you took it that time and became less conscious and aware of reality more than usual. Maybe you should take a rest from it for a while and build strength and get a lot of rest so that you can better deal with it. Why not ? There is no rush. You don't want to repeat what happened. Then if/when you decide to do it again, prepare ahead of time by making sure that you have plenty of good easy food around. Maybe prepare some food that needs cooking and make a note of when you should eat it by so that you don't eat it when it has gone bad (in case you are out of it for days (!)and are that disoriented). Also tell some friends to check on you and make sure you are eating and drinking. And leave notes around that say, "My darling, Sage, you must eat and drink."

Take care of yourself.


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: liatris]
    #5509948 - 04/12/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Delted because I tend to say what I think


Edited by Gratos (04/12/06 09:30 PM)


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: Gratos]
    #5510239 - 04/12/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Gratos tends to say what he thinks so he has to delete his post.
Awwwwww.....thats too bad.

Edit: Not a big fan of depression/anomalies of the nervous system gratos? Psychedelics are all fun and games with no pitfalls along the way?

I know this is a rather extreem case, but come on dude...


Edited by stemmer (04/12/06 10:24 PM)


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: stemmer]
    #5510440 - 04/12/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

At first I agreed and thought he was being a bit irrational, but well, he started the thread saying he almost died of exhaustion and starvation and he hadn't eaten for 2 months... Then I believe it changed to forcing himself to eat a bit, then forcing himself to eat applesauce (all he could apparently handle) then it was his family who was force-feeding him. That's really the only thing that would make me suspect this is fake.

On the other hand yeah, I have weeks where I'll wake up feeling hungry, take a look at what there is to eat and just think "O god, there's no way I'm eating any of this" so I don't know what to say


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died due to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 mon [Re: StickyWater]
    #5510491 - 04/12/06 11:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i would react differently to these kinds of post except they say, i didn't eat for a month and the one night i did shrooms made me lose 20-40 lbs and almost die. there was a post a few weeks back almost identical: girl tripping for a week off of shrooms.......also a crack head psycho


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died from to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 months [Re: Sage]
    #5510880 - 04/13/06 01:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm having a hard time making sense of the whole story...

You were using mushrooms and acid multiple times a week. Eventually you ended up depressed and didn't want to do anything or eat for a while. Right?

I would think that tripping so often for an extended period of time would certainly eventually lead one to feeling quite burnt out or depressed. Which would then lead to lethargy, apathy, and lack of appetite.

Definitely give psychedelics a long break. And if you decide to use again, space out your trips or you'll end up burning yourself out again.


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Re: I was deathly ill due to mushrooms. almost died from to exaustion and starving myself. over 2 months [Re: Sage]
    #5514671 - 04/14/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

it obviously also affected your ability to use paragraphs as well...


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