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Offlineamateurshroomer
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FBI call to my cell phone
    #5496019 - 04/09/06 09:23 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Hi guys. I am very scared right now. This morning just after midnight I was contacted by someone on my cell phone (which i do not use as contact information when ordering spores) and the man claimed to be FBI Agent Harris. He urged me to contact a lawyer and said that I would be receiving a visit today or tomorrow. He also told me he has proof so I am not to get rid of anything I have in my house. As of now, none of the jars that I sterilized have germinating spores in them so I wonder if this is all a lie. I just recently ordered spores from Sporesource and I am worried that they may have referred me somehow to the authorities. I find this whole thing very fishy because I do not use my cell phone as contact info when I order anything off of the internet and why would I receive a warning call so late at night. Plus, does the FBI even warn people ahead of time that they will be coming to check out everything? Any help would be greatly appreciated as I've never had something like this happen to me!

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496027 - 04/09/06 09:28 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

If the FBI wanted to bust you they would not call you and tip you off. Here are the possibilites:


1. Somebody (a friend...or an enemy) is fucking with you.
2. Some type of authority did call you but they just want to scare you so they don't have to go to the trouble of dealing with a small-time shroom grower.

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5496113 - 04/09/06 10:18 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Or maybe he knows someone in your family is trying to save your ass.

I remember when my buddy was dating the police commissioners daughter in our home town. He was selling sheets of L galore. Then one day a warrant to be served the following day came in the mail with his name and address on it from the City Hall itself - no note - nothing to indicate who it was from.

House was raided 5:30 AM the next morning. Amazing but true. The cops found NOTHING.

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496136 - 04/09/06 10:29 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Just because someone calls your phone and says they are from the FBI is no reason to believe them.


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Offlineamateurshroomer
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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496198 - 04/09/06 10:57 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

You have no idea how much better just to hear that it doesn't add up makes me feel. This would be my first ever time being busted for anything but I still know my rights. What didn't make sense to me was that my cell was called: 1. so late at night and twice, after which the second call they left a voicemail 2. and the number was Restricted which would require someone to enter a code before calling usually used in pranking 3. and my cell phone is not listed under my name, it is under a family member's name who has it on his plan (only people i know from school and some friends have the number). Saying that they had evidence made no sense since nothing is actually growing that can be considered illegal at this point and nothing has been disturbed in my house so they haven't been in here searching around. My one friend and I are having our differences so it could possibly be him. Should I avoid orders on the internet for a while just in case my package WAS intercepted and that was really authorities just trying to scare me? Thanks for being here for me guys!

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496203 - 04/09/06 10:59 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

just hide ur shit for like a week or two if thats the case.


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Offlineamateurshroomer
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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5496288 - 04/09/06 11:36 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Randal: have you had or know of any experiences like this? your post makes me feel much better. and now that i think about it, the FBI have MUCH bigger fish to fry rather than someone who grows no more than 5 or 6 jars and uses them for himself. no selling, no giving out, no sharing, etc. I checked the tracking info for the recent purchase and nothing comes up, so do you think they may have just been confiscated and that is the reason they may have called? I didn't hear of anyone else ordering from Sporesource and having any trouble. They are based in Canada so maybe it was taken when crossing the border? Anyone else with experience in law or who have been through a similar situation with help, that would be great! Thanks guys!

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Offlineamateurshroomer
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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496297 - 04/09/06 11:38 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

oh and just so you know, my house phone was not called, and this is the only phone linked to payment and shipping of such things. never has my cell been used for something like that!

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496331 - 04/09/06 11:49 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Do any of your friends know you are growing?

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496404 - 04/09/06 12:18 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Wouldn't it be the DEA that would bust you for something like this? It really sounds like someone fucking with you, I seem to remember there being an Agent Harris on some TV show (Sopranos possibly).

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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496462 - 04/09/06 12:46 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

amateurshroomer said:
Randal: have you had or know of any experiences like this? your post makes me feel much better. and now that i think about it, the FBI have MUCH bigger fish to fry rather than someone who grows no more than 5 or 6 jars and uses them for himself. no selling, no giving out, no sharing, etc.




I don't have any personal experience with it, but I have yet to see a news story about any U.S. federal agency going after a small-time shroom grower. Piddly crap like that would be left to the local cops.

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Offlineamateurshroomer
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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5496491 - 04/09/06 12:57 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

That's what I think about it also. They don't have time for a small dude like me. I don't spread the stuff around and I have never dealt anything in my life.

abrad: what's funny about that Agent Harris from Sopranos is that my friend and I who are currently seeing our differences is Italian (no offense to Italians here) but Sopranos is based off of Mafioso if I am correct. and yes, he does know about it, but being a great bestfriend for years, he would never, ever do such a thing as to actually refer me to authorities. he knows about things I've done before and actually joined me in some of them so there's no real worry about something he would do (besides a prank, of course)

the more I think about this, the more I feel that it was a prank. What gets me the most is that it was a call to my cell phone, not my house phone. if they were coming to visit me at my house, would they not call that phone? Thanks again!

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496506 - 04/09/06 01:02 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

<<Plus, does the FBI even warn people ahead of time that they will be coming to check out everything?>>

Don't count on it. I didn't get a warning before my visit at 7:00am sharp 6 years ago. It had nothing to do with drugs though, got busted after I logged onto the account that belonged to the president of AOL.


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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496521 - 04/09/06 01:06 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like someone was high and decided to have a little fun with you. I would lay low for a week or two just in case and see what transpires. The fact it was to your cellphone at 1am and they said they were the FBI and were coming to get your shit was the prankers big mistake. The whole "we already have proof, dont get rid of your stuff" line makes me think it was a friend who wants to fuck with you but doesn't want you to dump your whole operation. Also they would need evidence to prosecute which means they needs photos or actual physical evidence. Unless there were people taking pictures of you preparing substrate through your kitchen window then i wouldn't worry yourself over it.

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Offlinerawtoxic
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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496676 - 04/09/06 02:02 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Sometimes they may have bigger fish to fry but when they see a little one they can easily cook and eat sometimes they say 'why not'?

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: rawtoxic]
    #5496727 - 04/09/06 02:18 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

rawtoxic said:
Sometimes they may have bigger fish to fry but when they see a little one they can easily cook and eat sometimes they say 'why not'?




A person that grows a tiny amount of an illegal substance for himself is not going to concern the FBI. Hell, even a small-time dealer would not concern the FBI. Any federal agency (FBI, DEA, ATF, etc...) is going to leave such piddly stuff to the local boys.

Edited by RandalFlagg (04/09/06 02:19 PM)

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: rawtoxic]
    #5496732 - 04/09/06 02:20 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

ok who you"d tell agent harris sounds very made up and you would have either dea or local po would call and then agian they wouldn't call that be stupid nottin to worry about stop telling your friends what you grow

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: amateurshroomer]
    #5496859 - 04/09/06 02:56 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

The police do not call you to tell you to get a lawyer. The police do not call you to tell you they are coming to arrest you. The police want you ignorant of the law, and they do not want to give you a head start running.


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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5497247 - 04/09/06 05:28 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

1. Somebody (a friend...or an enemy) is fucking with you.

The cardinal rule when you cultivate is DON'T TELL ANYONE. In almost every case, the cops find out because of a snitch.

Even your most trusted friend will rat you out if he gets caught with drugs and the cops threaten him with a decade in prison with Bubba for a cell mate or probation if he rats someone (anyone) out.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: FBI call to my cell phone [Re: Diploid]
    #5500730 - 04/10/06 06:17 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

the point - someone knows what your doing.

and thats not good.

bad start already.


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