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InvisibleAsante
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Re: Weed ruins the mood [Re: pong]
    #5497010 - 04/09/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm pretty sensitive, but also a microdoser.

0.25-0.5gr portions with lemon..

00:00h dose
01:00h plateau
03:00h descent
05:00h down

I tend to boost with same doses every three hours, seamlessly extending the peak another three hours.

If I redose on 03:00h, what I usually do, it's like this:

00:00h dose
01:00h plateau
07:00h descent
09:00h down

This is not as intense as usual tripping (unless you take more) but it being 4-HO-DMT its still *very* interesting.
Its an acquired taste. You need to learn how to mentally enhance the effects on these doses and learn to appreciate them.


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InvisibleZorodius
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Re: Weed ruins the mood [Re: Asante]
    #5497024 - 04/09/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
It's a matter of degree.
Its my experience that it is far more common for stoners to smoke themselves near comatose than it is for drinkers to drink themselves to smittereens.
I see much more hard-toking than hard-drinking.



Personally, I see a lot more hard drinking than hard toking. I feel comfortable talking to people who are stoned while I'm sober. They're relaxed, and it makes me feel relaxed. Conversely, I don't enjoy having to interact with drunk people while sober. Plus, there's always the unpleasant lingering concern that someone will get drunk enough to require medical attention.

I guess my opinion is different due to personal preference, but also because my experience has brought me into contact with a lot more misuse of alcohol than weed.


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Offlinebutane
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Re: Weed ruins the mood [Re: Zorodius]
    #5497288 - 04/09/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Zorodius said:
I feel comfortable talking to people who are stoned while I'm sober. They're relaxed, and it makes me feel relaxed. Conversely, I don't enjoy having to interact with drunk people while sober. Plus, there's always the unpleasant lingering concern that someone will get drunk enough to require medical attention.




I've found that drunk people are really only fun to talk to when you're drunk, and even then it can get annoying. Drunk people are usually the only ones around them having fun, while the sober people are just getting annoyed at the idiocy of the drunk ones. I hate having to baby-sit drunk people.


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Re: Weed ruins the mood [Re: butane]
    #5497292 - 04/09/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I can agree that weed ruins the mood when your not smoking. You don't always know the reasons why some people aren't partaking at a party maybe they really want to but they can't because maybe they have to keep it hidden from their girl friend who is there or maybe they have Drug Tests for probation or a job and they just feel left out that can suck. I had to stop chilling with my friends for a year because of probation all they do when they hang out around the house is smoke and I couldn't stand to see them do it and not be able to partake.


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Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

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Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
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OfflineColdCash
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Re: Weed ruins the mood [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #5500261 - 04/10/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Me and 2 other good friends of mine quit drinking about half a year ago, mainly because drugs are easier, cheaper, and much more ufn then drinking. Drinking has just too many unpleasant effects like puking and whatnot and I can handle drugs a lot better. At parties most everyone drinking and we smoke weed and it's fine. Our group has all done their fair share of drugs so everyone just does what they feel like at parties. It's not uncommon to have someone on mushrooms while half the people are drinking or smoking weed, and perhaps a few people are on acid or something else. Everyone has their insecurities but I'd like to think my social group has more brains to it then your average party of young people just getting drunk so we are very understanding of people doing their own thing. If you're on acid and don't feel like talking, you just have to say it and they nod and go talk to someone ese because they've been there too.


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Re: Weed ruins the mood [Re: Asante]
    #5500327 - 04/10/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Saturday night a stoned friend came to hang out with myself and two sober people, and you could definatly tell he was out of his element. One of the girls was putting him down, and messing with him, which unless it is warrented, is unacceptable in my opinion.
I ended up letting the guy crash at my place, because he wasn't allowed to do it with two girls, it turns out My Big Fat Greek Wedding isn't even funny to a stoned person.

When I've been the sober minority, around drinkers and smokers, I have definatly been left out. I don't blame those who partake though, they do what they like, and I did what I liked. Usually when I get to a party with drinking or smoking, I do a bit immediatly, to help me ease into the situation.

I tend to become more focused on my own thoughts when I smoke, like a big dream untill someone tells me to pass the bong, or when laughter erupts.

Fortunatly, I've never been in the situation with novice drinkers and smokers, everyone did their thing, and had fun without hurling.


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Offlineleery11
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Re: Weed ruins the mood [Re: Waffle]
    #5500351 - 04/10/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i don't like people + alcohol
i prefer people + weed.

alcohol parties are too rambunctious and wild.
but i understnad how you feel that weed "parties" are a bit too withdrawn.......

i guess it depends, if it's just like 5 people and they all smoke up who cares if no one speaks for 3 hours? I mean.... they're just chillin...

if it were some bigass party and a group of people smoked up and just spaced out then i could see what you're getting at, it would take the life down some.

personally though..... weed is my drug of choice over alcohol, but if in a social gathering it should be kept to where you just have a bit of a buzz and can still be social, not to where it's super dank, you hit too much, and you're tripping harder than you can ever recall tripping on the herb and can only manage to sit there for several hours on end.
(which is what happened to me)

anyway the most important thing is WEED AND TV ARE A DEADLY COMBO.... bad bad bad bad BAD!!!! get some GOOD VIBES going with the weed, happy music, or a cool movie, but no fucking tv. hopefully people get what i mean.

I mean really that's the most unproductive thing, it's better to just sit in silence and be stoned and talk about random things or collectively tune into a good piece of music... stoned people watching tv is pretty lame...... let the brainwashing soak in 1000x easier... yeah great idea....... sit around and make music, play some games, listen to music, maybe even watch a movie but vegging out in front of tv and not even being able to remember what is going on because of the pacing of the commercials and your stonedness, you're just draining your brain!


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Invisiblebare.whiterabbit
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Re: Weed ruins the mood [Re: Asante]
    #12662384 - 05/31/10 06:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
People turn inward, talk less, are more referential and they more or less withdraw into an inner world which takes precedence over the social happening that is the party.





I think this is based on a person to person and tolerance basis...so I kind of resent the idea, of someone assuming, that just because someone is a lightweight at a party, that they aren't going to have just as much fun, as those people who're sober, simply because they don't feel a need to outwardly interject every thought in their head.

Stoners with even a decent tolerance can usually go through the day doing anything and everything that someone sober can, and a chronic or medicinal heavy user, on a hash cookie and 4 rips from a volcano bag, can usually go to work and do everything that's asked of them in a day.

Now this also depends on the shit your smoking, because a good sativa, will put you in a good and lean headspace throughout your day, whereas, yes, an indica, will fuck you in the left ear and leave your brain melting out the right.


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Re: Weed ruins the mood [Re: bare.whiterabbit]
    #12662437 - 05/31/10 06:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

:dontspillme: omg how old is that thing?



:seriousbusiness:







Quote:


bare.whiterabbit said:
Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
People turn inward, talk less, are more referential and they more or less withdraw into an inner world which takes precedence over the social happening that is the party.





I think this is based on a person to person and tolerance basis...so I kind of resent the idea, of someone assuming, that just because someone is a lightweight at a party, that they aren't going to have just as much fun, as those people who're sober, simply because they don't feel a need to outwardly interject every thought in their head.

Stoners with even a decent tolerance can usually go through the day doing anything and everything that someone sober can, and a chronic or medicinal heavy user, on a hash cookie and 4 rips from a volcano bag, can usually go to work and do everything that's asked of them in a day.

Now this also depends on the shit your smoking, because a good sativa, will put you in a good and lean headspace throughout your day, whereas, yes, an indica, will fuck you in the left ear and leave your brain melting out the right.




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biting into a juicy delicious piece of fruit while tripping balls is probably up there in my greatest life experiences.:lsdabc:


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I usually combat those kinds of negative statuses with a status of my own.

Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful. - Buddha


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