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To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!?
    #5492802 - 04/08/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hello all!!!

I peeked this morning.  It has only been about 12 hours.  And to my surprise, there are little dots of fuzz!!!  Is this possible to be seeing this already?  They are little tiny fuzzy really white dots around the injection points.  (Growing pf tek.)

It then occured to me that maybe I shouldn't be peeking just yet.
So, two questions...
1.  Am I seeing things?  Is it really already growing?
2.  Should I just not peek at all over the next 5 days or so?  Not sure what light exposure would do to them.

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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: nemmy]
    #5492824 - 04/08/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

lol... the most i held up my first time was three days :grin:

something is defenetly growing if you're seeing white spots around the inoculation sites! to be sure what give it a couple of days or more befor you decide about it :smirk:

the least peeking the faster they grow (at least in your mind... it's frustrating taking a look twice a day and watch it crawl slowly rather then giving it a peek once a week and really seeing the diffrance)
they're gonna colonize wether you peek or not just do your best to keep it to a minimum and you're good!


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: Simisu]
    #5492852 - 04/08/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, you should be on the right track. 12 hours though? Hmmmm....hopefully you just didnt add moisture to a contam. :frown:

Keep watching!


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: tokey666]
    #5492921 - 04/08/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

When I first started, I would check on my newly inoculated jars 3 or 4 times a day :grin:. A couple of quick peeks a day (keep them brief) won't hurt a thing.


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: Premedman1]
    #5493086 - 04/08/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I did the same thing (2 or so times a day)...I used the rye method and used that to inoculate some other substrate jars yesterday. Its already colonizing so I don't think you're seeing things...give it a whole 24 hours and then check it again...you might just be surprised.


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: DRfeelfunny]
    #5493149 - 04/08/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I don't think its contam. I goofed a bit. As this is my first time EVER, I was a little heavy handed on the plunger, and ended up putting about 1.25 cc in each jar. Completely on accident... I didn't really have a good idea of what I was supposed to do to make the right amount come out.. I did it VERY slowly, but a little more came out.. So maybe that's why I see fuzz already? I hope so!

But I don't think I will peek for a few more days..

This is so exciting!

thanks!


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: nemmy]
    #5493272 - 04/08/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

A few minutes of light per day won't create any problems, so don't worry about that. You should check 'em every day or two, to keep an eye out for comtams. Good luck!


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: sudont]
    #5495382 - 04/09/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

This whole peaking thing is bogus. Even Paul Stamets, who is partly responsible for the rumor, now incubates almost everything in lit rooms. Yeah, I tried to stop it, but I couldn't do it. It was sort of like trying to stop jerking off. LOL I peak obsessively at every stage of mushroom development, and it never seemed to hurt me. Here's the kind of yields I get:



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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: Blue Helix]
    #5495406 - 04/09/06 01:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Here's the kind of yields I get:






Speaking of jerking off.............  :laugh: :smirk:
That's some good myco-porn.  I'll admit I'm an obsessive peeker too.  I find it's half the fun  :laugh:  It's comforting to know that it's normal and doesn't cause any adverse effects.  Like going blind  :grin:


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: musher_420]
    #5496257 - 04/09/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

damn, 12hrs? Did you use spores or LC?


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #5498476 - 04/09/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Spores. I am such a newb, i dunno what LC is... :-D


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: nemmy]
    #5498509 - 04/09/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: Premedman1]
    #5498516 - 04/09/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

^^^come on now....

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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: Blue Helix]
    #5498673 - 04/10/06 12:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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This whole peaking thing is bogus.  Even Paul Stamets, who is partly responsible for the rumor, now incubates almost everything in lit rooms.  Yeah, I tried to stop it, but I couldn't do it.  It was sort of like trying to stop jerking off.  LOL  I peak obsessively at every stage of mushroom development, and it never seemed to hurt me.  Here's the kind of yields I get:






Yup . I read Stamets retake of that. I incubate my jars in my grow room now. The lights keep it a nice 80. :thumbup:

It's funny what's changed here in the last year. From incubating in total darkness to it doesn't really hurt or matter. When I first joined, peeps where using coir as a casing layer, now its used as a substrate to spawn to. Just goes to show ya,lol :confused:

Growth after 12 hours with a multi-spore inoculate is most likely NOT a good thing. Spores usually take longer then that to germinate, Hopefully you're seeing things or it's just wishful thinking :grin:

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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5499141 - 04/10/06 08:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Growth after 12 hours with a multi-spore inoculate is most likely NOT a good thing. Spores usually take longer then that to germinate, Hopefully you're seeing things or it's just wishful thinking :grin:

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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5499227 - 04/10/06 09:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Growth after 12 hours with a multi-spore inoculate is most likely NOT a good thing. Spores usually take longer then that to germinate




I agree with that. I never saw even fresh spores germinate and grow to visibility that fast. Something is up if you think you are seeing that. Maybe the spores had already germinated in storage and were really a liquid culture? More likely you have trouble.


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: Blue Helix]
    #5499327 - 04/10/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Growth after 12 hours with a multi-spore inoculate is most likely NOT a good thing. Spores usually take longer then that to germinate




I agree with that. I never saw even fresh spores germinate and grow to visibility that fast. Something is up if you think you are seeing that. Maybe the spores had already germinated in storage and were really a liquid culture? More likely you have trouble.




I've noticed that even with an LC, it takes a few days to see growth, at least IME. After that, the myc takes off.


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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: nemmy]
    #5499351 - 04/10/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I've noticed that even with an LC, it takes a few days to see growth, at least IME. After that, the myc takes off.




For me it doesn't work that way. I almost always see strong growth in 24 hours and, although not the norm, have had cultures complete in 48 hours. It seldom takes me more than 4 days if I use over 5 mls of liquid culture inoculate. Then again, I constantly stir the liquid culture with a stir magnet which makes a huge difference.

Here is a culture that was 48 hours old of Viet Pan Cyans (not quite done but well along):



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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: Blue Helix]
    #5499364 - 04/10/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think he MEANT when inoculating with a LC , not making one.

Which is true when I use an LC , also. It may take a day or day and a half to see some growth, but when you do , it just explodes with growth :grin:

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Re: To peek or not to peek? And Fuzz after 12 hours?!? [Re: Blue Helix]
    #5499491 - 04/10/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Here is a culture that was 48 hours old of Viet Pan Cyans (not quite done but well along




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