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blaze2
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are you guys so naive that you dont realize you are in fact paraphrasing the bible?
Here is wisdom, "Those who leadeth into captivity will live in captivity, and Those who live by the sword must die by the sword." or something close to that.
You reap what you sow. People will always commit crimes of passion and need, and these are assuradly sins. However they are hardly evil. Evil is in premeditation and using Gods gift of imagination for sinful acts. War is always evil.
Evil may be perspective in petty human things, but I am of the opinion that there is a greater evil, just as someone who connects with christ consciousness will feel connected with humanity, someone who connects to the anti-christ consciousness will feel disconnected from humanity.
God, goodness, christ, these are all ideas of the brother hood of all man, anything that goes against this idea in act or ideal is part of the antichrist consciousness.
-------------------- "Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein "peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." Thomas Jefferson "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson
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leery11
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Re: Christ consciousness. [Re: blaze2]
#5500097 - 04/10/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blaze2 said:
if there is a Christ then there must be an Anti-Christ.
peace
blaze2
how is one supposed to distinguish between the two when we're talking about human beings?
I mean, I was posessed friday night, and I'm trying to determine whether it was delusion, imagination, evil, or good. Christ or Satan. Because of the issue of dualities, I do not see how there can be a true Christ/Satan as a BEING.... rather they are archetypes and in that way identifying with one or the other could lead to becoming that...... i.e. attaining christ-consciousness, or becoming evil.
But ... evil evil evil? Is it? I can simply trust my feelings and say that it wasn't right to me. I'm still a bit worried about it.
But let's say we use the chakra system to determine the allocation of psychic powers, shouldn't it be that anyone with an open third eye or even any of the upper chakras be purified enough so that they CANNOT use those powers to harm other people?
Was I simply rejecting ego loss? ah I mean. It's confoundingly confusing.
I mean I want to trust that this human being is trying to help others but at the same time I see him as a vehicle of corruption based upon this experience.... but paradoxically it seems that he wanted my third eye open.
I sound a loon perhaps. It sucks. Does anyone have any advice on how to re-establish your own identity/sever ties from other "psychic" influences? The only thing I can think is establish a firm root foundation so that I feel solidified and that I'm a real tangible person.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
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psyka
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Re: Christ consciousness. [Re: leery11]
#5500112 - 04/10/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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My Christ consciousness is far more grandeur than yours.
-------------------- As the life of a candle, my wick will burn out. But, the fire of my mind shall beam into infinite.

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blaze2
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Re: Christ consciousness. [Re: psyka]
#5503752 - 04/11/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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how is one supposed to distinguish between the two when we're talking about human beings?
What are your unsure or scared of? Are you afraid your workign for the anti-christ unknowingly? He is the great deciever after all, or is it that you wont be able to tell who is? or maybe both?
The fact that you worry about that at all should prove to you that you are not working for the anti-christ. For it shows concern for others and yourself to be better people. that you CHOOSE that you want to be a good person is enough. With God you are allways welcome hes always ready to forget the past, but only through a christ like consciousness does one learn to forgive all mistakes of others as God always forgives you.
Someone who is tuned into the antichrist consciousness doesnt give a fuck about anyone else, he is filled with greed and lust, but most of all he has turned his back on God. He is stubborn in this most of all. Tho its possible he's usually not a devil worshipper. Usually he is a non worshipper. Not that he doesnt believe in God of course just that he hates him. The worst part is that in society hes probrobly more respected than anyone on this board.
Its pretty much that simple ask to be forgiven, and at the same time forgive others, or else your working for the other guy wheather you think you are or not.
-------------------- "Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein "peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." Thomas Jefferson "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson
Edited by blaze2 (04/11/06 02:12 PM)
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Basilides
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Re: Christ consciousness. [Re: blaze2]
#5503771 - 04/11/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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How can someone believe in God and hate Him at the same time? Belief in God, and transcending with a faith stance is an act of love and devotion to God.
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    "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."
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blaze2
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Re: Christ consciousness. [Re: Basilides]
#5503806 - 04/11/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its quite possible, they believe in God, but have been through so much shit that they do not believe he will help them anymore, that he is puposefully making their lives horrible. there is a bible story in this theme let me find it.
-------------------- "Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein "peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." Thomas Jefferson "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson
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blaze2
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Re: Christ consciousness. [Re: blaze2]
#5503823 - 04/11/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Job 1 (King James Version) King James Version (KJV) Public Domain
Job 1 1There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
2And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters.
3His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east.
4And his sons went and feasted in their houses, every one his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them.
5And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.
6Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
13And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house:
14And there came a messenger unto Job, and said, The oxen were plowing, and the asses feeding beside them:
15And the Sabeans fell upon them, and took them away; yea, they have slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
16While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The fire of God is fallen from heaven, and hath burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
17While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The Chaldeans made out three bands, and fell upon the camels, and have carried them away, yea, and slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
18While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, Thy sons and thy daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house:
19And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
20Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped,
21And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.
22In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly.
This is the first chapter of teh Book of Job I wont post the whole thing but here you see him before he turns his back on God.
-------------------- "Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein "peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." Thomas Jefferson "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: Christ consciousness. [Re: Basilides]
#5504810 - 04/11/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Basilides said: How can someone believe in God and hate Him at the same time? Belief in God, and transcending with a faith stance is an act of love and devotion to God.
It's sometimes referred to as The Ahab Complex. Remember the Star Trek film 'The Wrath of Khan?' Khan had a copy of Melville's Moby Dick on his shelf on that prison-planet, identified with Ahab and quoted him ("...from Hell's heart I stab at thee whale!...") while he attacked the Enterprise. Moby Dick - the White Whale - symbolized God for Melville in the book. Ahab had been wounded, crippled by Moby Dick - had his leg bitten off. Khan lost his beloved wife. Both Ahab and Khan (in which the Enterprise took on the godlike qualities that the White Whale had) had belief and hatred ("the devil believes and trembles"). Both had a pathological inflation that took on very God - and lost of course.
-------------------- γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself
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