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Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales!
    #5492160 - 04/08/06 10:24 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)





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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: Asante]
    #5492261 - 04/08/06 11:36 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

hell wiccan if it'll fit in my hand it is enough if it dont,well it's prolly still enough :cheers:
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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: whiterasta]
    #5492809 - 04/08/06 02:36 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

HAHAHA!

Your remark of 12 grams in the other thread already made me think we're on way opposite sides of the bell curve :smile:

I hardly ever dose over 1 gram and the thought of a thumbprint wakes me up better than a pot of cappachino :evil:

Most people fall in between though, and the figures I mentioned check out in the Great Mushrooms Poll ^_^

What is your average strength btw, if you were to trip?


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: Asante]
    #5504270 - 04/11/06 06:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

last time I voyaged I had 10 mild hits of fluff, 5g mhrb enhanced cubes, 450mg mesc and a big pipe of dmt before bed.Good day I worked the morning on a single hit and dropped the rest after with the mesc. soon as it began to hit I munched th shrooms and watched some tube with the family and had a couple beers.
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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: whiterasta]
    #5504428 - 04/11/06 07:07 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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last time I voyaged I had 10 mild hits of fluff, 5g mhrb enhanced cubes, 450mg mesc and a big pipe of dmt before bed.Good day I worked the morning on a single hit and dropped the rest after with the mesc. soon as it began to hit I munched th shrooms and watched some tube with the family and had a couple beers.
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I'm moving to Oregon.


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: KingSpade]
    #5504529 - 04/11/06 07:31 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

well, the best place to find mescaline, Ps. cubensis, and DMT in one place is actually somewhere in Texas, but Oregon definently has its upsides.
I'll have to test this thimble thing, sounds interesting. About how much would you guess could fit in one thimble?


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5504539 - 04/11/06 07:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I live in Ohio and I cant get shit


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: KingSpade]
    #6812943 - 04/20/07 02:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

"If you aren't afraid you took too much, then you probably didn't take enough" ~Terrence McKenna


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: myndreach]
    #6812969 - 04/20/07 02:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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"If you aren't afraid you took too much, then you probably didn't take enough" ~Terrence McKenna





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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
    #6813036 - 04/20/07 03:08 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

yea it can't be a great trip if it doesn't at least slightly make you unconfortable.


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: chris92346]
    #6813549 - 04/20/07 07:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

What can you use to measure salvia if you don't have a scale?


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #6814311 - 04/21/07 12:28 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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What can you use to measure salvia if you don't have a scale?




For extracts, you can use a dime. For example, when I use 20x (really the only way to go) I make a pile about as round as a dime, then its around half the size vertically. I worked up from there though, and when you do, you can just use the same technique but with more salvia. She's a fine lady indeed.


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #6814421 - 04/21/07 01:05 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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What can you use to measure salvia if you don't have a scale?



 
  for anything up to 10x I just smoke till I cant smoke no more in one hitters at a time
  usually I cant go beyond 3 hits of 10x and sometimes just one will shatter my world :thumbup:


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: cpw1971]
    #6814422 - 04/21/07 01:06 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

so how much does a thimble of shrooms = in grams?


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: Syle]
    #6814477 - 04/21/07 01:27 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

You can construct a scale with much greater accuracy than .5 grams from household crap. Find cardboard or whatever, create a balance beam. Poke a hole in one end, hang a cup made of whatever you feel like off that point. Make a second identical cup, but allow this one to freely move along the other arm of the beam. Put a penny (a penny weighs 2.5 grams) in both cups. Move the free cup until the beam balances. Mark that spot - it is 0.

Next, put 2 pennies in the movable cup. Move the cup again until it balances. Three pennies. This is 1/8. By varying the ratio (3:4 fixed to movable, 2:3, 5:6 etc) and marking the scale, you can get a pretty coherent linear weight scale.

Put your mushrooms in the fixed cup, put a penny in the movable cup. Move the penny around until it balances, then extrapolate the weight based on the nearest line. The scale is fairly linear, so an accurate guess of the ratio is possible. If you are an exceptional scale builder, you should have an exactly linear scale of ratios, and could simply mark the scale by measuring the intervals and marking accordingly. If the fixed cup contains more than 2.5 grams, use two pennies or a nickel (a nickel weighs 5 grams). You can also weigh heavier wet mushrooms by increasing the weight in the fixed cup to 20 grams, 30 grams, etc.

I've never used anything else, and it has been a very reliable way to dose both myself and other people. It can also be constructed on the spot, in case you have sudden need.


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: Syle]
    #6814900 - 04/21/07 07:28 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

there's really know way to know. that seems to be the rub with this method...the dosage is determined by volume rather than weight.


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: xjuan]
    #6815028 - 04/21/07 09:20 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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"If you aren't afraid you took too much, then you probably didn't take enough" ~Terrence McKenna




That's what was done in Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, and look how profound that was. Native people have an entire ceremony built around modest doses of entheogen. Many trippers have no ceremony, no higher motives than entertainment and they compensate this by taking so much that even a plastic flower makes sense.

Compare sharing a bottle of fine wine in interesting conversation with friends, to chugging a bottle of hooch each and looking at the ceiling stupid drunk.

Because thats the result of mr McKenna's well-intentioned advice. He calls 5 grams heroic. Here on the shroomery we have people who eat half, whole and double ounces, but they don't come reporting back with the secret of Life revealed.

The trip will not do it all. Conscious effort is required, and for that moderate doses can be better than high doses.
There is a time and a place for high doses, but quite often high dosing amounts to simple abuse instead of sincere exploration. Not nearly all high dosers are good trippers, because in some aspects its very easy to get away with marginal tripper behavior when the dose is high.

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there's really know way to know. that seems to be the rub with this method...the dosage is determined by volume rather than weight.
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This method is more accurate than dumping mushrooms on a precision scale, because it homogenizes dosages. If you take an exact measure of mushrooms when a friend with scales shows up, and then weigh that, you will know the capacity of your thimble for regardless how often you will dose.

It's a good TEK :smile:


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: Asante]
    #6815105 - 04/21/07 10:03 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, in that instance it would be good.  Knowing the weight capacity of the thimble.  But it still requires that the volume of dose remain the same every time - otherwise a variance would occur.  That means if the dried mushroom were powdered one day and 'cut into small bits' another, it would make a difference - albeit negligible.

Anyway thimbles come in a ton of different sizes, so their capacity isn't standardized.  It's a quaint idea - but a good tek?  hrm... 

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This method is more accurate than dumping mushrooms on a precision scale, because it homogenizes dosages. If you take an exact measure of mushrooms when a friend with scales shows up, and then weigh that, you will know the capacity of your thimble for regardless how often you will dose.

It's a good TEK :smile:




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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: xjuan]
    #6815139 - 04/21/07 10:21 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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But it still requires that the volume of dose remain the same every time - otherwise a variance would occur.




Thats where the homogenization and hard pressing of the powder comes in. It minimizes variance.

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Anyway thimbles come in a ton of different sizes, so their capacity isn't standardized




This is why you adjust your dosage to the thimble size you have. Its an organic process that does away with the need for grams. This basic procedure of pulverizing, homogenizing and taking pressed measures has been used by healers and witchdoctors for thousands of years before there even was such a thing as a gram.

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OK, outclass it by a better TEK of your own. :smile:
The TEK must be able to be learned by an 10yo, make use of less than a dollar of ubiquitous equipment, and be very portable and convenient, and be explainable on a small .gif

Behind the computer its easy to dismiss anything that pops up on your screen, but in the spirit of synergistic advance of knowledge I challenge you to outdo it on all these counts :thumbup:


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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: Asante]
    #6815175 - 04/21/07 10:35 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

No dismissal or class here! It's cute dude, I'm into it. Just tossing out questions in the synergistic advance of knowledge.

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Re: Thimble TEK -- How to dose shrooms without scales! [Re: xjuan]
    #6815220 - 04/21/07 10:53 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

:lol::thumbup:


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