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fee
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spore longevity *DELETED*
#5491131 - 04/07/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blankk said to fee: btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp Turtletotem said: I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off. Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man. And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion? Religion is fun.
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skeletor
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Re: spore longevity [Re: fee]
#5491160 - 04/07/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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tons. spores last 1000's of years. and in nature 100's floating around
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fee
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Re: spore longevity *DELETED* [Re: skeletor]
#5491194 - 04/07/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blankk said to fee: btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp Turtletotem said: I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off. Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man. And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion? Religion is fun.
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Re: spore longevity [Re: fee]
#5491252 - 04/07/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, I'm not thousands of years old (just feel that way), but I agree with skeletor, there is evidence that spores can last for milleniums. What does UV sterilization have to do with your question? You didn't ask how to kill spores, I thought you were asking if they last in a protected environment. Yes, they do. I haven't had an intimate relationship with your spores, but my opinion is that they are viable. If you want experience only, then ask your higher power. Us mortals can only guess.
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fee
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Re: spore longevity *DELETED* [Re: mogur]
#5491338 - 04/07/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blankk said to fee: btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp Turtletotem said: I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off. Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man. And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion? Religion is fun.
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Re: spore longevity [Re: fee]
#5491354 - 04/07/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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"P. Weber and J.M. Greenberg have now tested spores (actually Bacillus subtilis) under temperature and ultraviolet radiation levels expected in interstellar space. They found that 90% of the spores under test would be killed in times on the order of hundreds of years -- far too short for panspermia to work at interstellar distances. However, if the spores are transported in dark, molecular clouds, which are not uncommon between the stars, survival times of tens or hundreds of million years are indicated by the experiments. Under such conditions, the interstellar transportation of life is possible. "
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf042/sf042p11.htm
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Re: spore longevity [Re: fee]
#5491384 - 04/07/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes they're fine, I just made a post about this.
My spores were kept in my desk drawer for at least 4 years, which I had opened quite often for long gaming sessions (good support for my arm)! ;p - not only that but I had used them a couple times before to make shrroms.
I inoculated last week, and they're doing great~!
heres the post... some guy had 22 yo spores
Old Spores???
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Re: spore longevity [Re: fee]
#5491773 - 04/08/06 01:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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fee said:
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mogur said: Well, I'm not thousands of years old (just feel that way), but I agree with skeletor, there is evidence that spores can last for milleniums.
can I please have a source that this is vaguly true cause its not even remotely true that spores last 100 years never mind milleniums cause this is false information and should not be spread throughout our community
so may I have a source that spores last anywhere close to your claim
Fee, you sir are a douche, he was obviously joking and still answered your question no need to get an attitude with someone trying to help.
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Re: spore longevity [Re: MerchantP]
#5492023 - 04/08/06 06:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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yup i too had an old spore print (unknowen age really... but older then two years i'd guess) it took a while to see signs of growth (more then a week, though they were kept at room temp so...) but they're growing fine
i had almost ran out of inoculum for my last spot so i sucked a little air and did the last spot... that one took the most time but it finelly did colonize, it looked like weak myc for a while and then from the top of the growing spot of myc grew out to each side robust rizomorphic strands... real pretty!
your print should be fine! just make sure you give it enough time to rehidrate...
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Re: spore longevity [Re: fee]
#5492414 - 04/08/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Species, strain, and conditions of spores during printing and storage all play a factor in ultimate viability.
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Re: spore longevity [Re: EonTan]
#5492505 - 04/08/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Exactly. I have several sporeprints that are only three to four years old, but were taken on typing paper and stored in ziploc bags in the dark at room temperature. None will germinate. None. I suspect it's the acids in the paper. For long term storage, use glass or foil. RR
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i have asked this question before, but still not 100% sure on how to do it: so when germinating, is it best to put said spores in a syringe? theres agar work going on, and i was wondering just how to put liquid, runny, spore juice on agar. do i have to inject spores inside of agar, just drop it on top, or what? thanks shroomerites!
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fee
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Re: spore longevity *DELETED* [Re: impgl]
#5492564 - 04/08/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blankk said to fee: btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp Turtletotem said: I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off. Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man. And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion? Religion is fun.
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Re: spore longevity [Re: fee]
#5492906 - 04/08/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have prints on alum foil that are over 5 years old that are still viable.
I haven't tried old prints that are on paper.
The oldest prints that I have heard of germinating...
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My oldest viable print was 22yrs old. Your 3 yr old prints are babies... they will be fine.
I have no idea what his prints were on.
I suggest making up a syringe...and doing a test jar(1) to test the viability. That way you don't waste alot of jars in case the spores aren't viable.
tc
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fee
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Re: spore longevity *DELETED* [Re: Roadkill]
#5492918 - 04/08/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blankk said to fee: btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp Turtletotem said: I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off. Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man. And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion? Religion is fun.
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Re: spore longevity [Re: fee]
#5492934 - 04/08/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd make up one syringe...
and knock up one jar of substrate or an LC jar to test the viability.
I'd hate to see you waste your time and $$$ if the spores aren't viable.
tc bro!~
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skeletor
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Re: spore longevity [Re: Roadkill]
#5493991 - 04/08/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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well we can go back and look at conditions further then 150 yrs ago. you drill deep into ice. pollen spores and everything else floating around can land on the ice in the summer then is covered up each winter so theres sort of a tree ring effect. spores can and do live longer then us and still be viable.
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