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Offlinehoopershroomer
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is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount?
    #5490941 - 04/07/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

so i was talkin to a friend about mushrooms for a while and the subject of how many times i've done them came up. he asked me how many times i've done them and i said a little over ten times, and his eyes got big like he was surprised, then he was like how long u been doing them, i was like since last fall and he was like man u shouldnt be doing those that much because they are sooo bad for you. this kinda wierded me out because i've seen people on here talk abot how they fry like every weekend

so im wondering, i've used shrooms about 10-15 times since november, is that too much and are they really that bad for you? how much do you guys fry on average?


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5490995 - 04/07/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You're in no physical danger, but it's better to space out your trips so you can take in more of each one and they don't become just weird or boring.


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: gururvishnu]
    #5491036 - 04/07/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Don't forget about HPPD!


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: gururvishnu]
    #5491063 - 04/07/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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gururvishnu said:
You're in no physical danger, but it's better to space out your trips so you can take in more of each one and they don't become just weird or boring.




Yeah man, don't worry about what your buddy said. They aren't going to be a problem unless you make them a problem...if that makes any sense...lol Take guruvishnu's advise and space them out some more. Maybe you are doing them a bit frequent, but don't make it seem like your doing them in a wrong way. Have fun with each individual experience and don't let others bad vibes freak you out...lol


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5491377 - 04/07/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

10-15 times since novemeber is kind of a lot in my opinion.


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: TODAY]
    #5491603 - 04/08/06 12:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Meh, trip when you need a trip, don't when you don't. Its easily just as enjoyable to hang out with your buddies who are frying as it is to fry.


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: ClammyJoe] * 1
    #5492184 - 04/08/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There is no right way to trip.

Do these things however you want, as often as you want. If they lose their magic, you'll know to ease up. Or not.

It doesn't matter, because shrooms are not "bad for you." They are just another one of nature's benign (read beneficial) gifts.


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5492222 - 04/08/06 09:07 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Using them too often will cause their effects to become less profound, but also may bring psychological problems that exist in your mind to the surface.

Mobilizxing psychological issues you might have can be a prelude to becoming a better person if you choose to face these issues and deal with them.
If you do not then you might well say the "mushrooms gave you problems."

Shrooming is no joke, most people don't get that.

USING PSYCHEDELICS MOBILIZES YOUR MIND AND ANY LATENT OR ACUTE DIFFICULTIES YOU MIGHT HAVE MAY RISE TO THE SURFACE BECAUSE YOU'RE STIRRING THE POT.

The above statement is as true as anything that can be said about psychedelics. All LSD therapists and informed medical professionals subscribe to it.

But it is not a bad thing. The good or bad thing is how you deal with those issues. You can't unclog a sink without dealing with the clots.

You have used roughly every two weeks. This is the maximum frequency in which mushroom use can be sustained, and it is used by the Ayahuasca Churches like Santo Daime or UDV.
This use may well transform your life on short notice.

Psilocin and DMT are just one oxygen atom apart.

The typical user here uses 2.3gr once every 2 months.

You acutely lack knowledge. I wopuld say stop using and start studying the Mushrooms, here, on Erowid and elsewhere. Fear of getting fucked up is no way to engage in use.
Educate yourself, Just Say Know.


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: Asante]
    #5492373 - 04/08/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Educate yourself, Just Say Know.




Quote of the year...no shitting.  Nice one Wiccan_Seeker :smile:


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: TODAY]
    #5492757 - 04/08/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Psilocybin mushrooms cannot physically damage you in any fashion; the most they can damage is your psychological state- and that is mainly through antagonizing pre-existing problems such as scizophrenia, manic depression, or anxiety.


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: ryanvergel]
    #5492761 - 04/08/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

its hard to ignore whats said in the Mycotoxicosis thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3454667/an/0/page/0


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: kotik]
    #5492808 - 04/08/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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kotik said:
its hard to ignore whats said in the Mycotoxicosis thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3454667/an/0/page/0




That really doesn't pertain to his question


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: kotik]
    #5492825 - 04/08/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

kotik said:
its hard to ignore whats said in the Mycotoxicosis thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3454667/an/0/page/0




I don't think anyone was disputing the toxicity of mold that can grow in jars.


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: kraj]
    #5492846 - 04/08/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: mungojerry]
    #5492855 - 04/08/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

noted. amusing, the first related thread is called:

"Misinformed Idiots (Author: mushiemountain)"


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: ryanvergel]
    #5492873 - 04/08/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Psilocybin mushrooms cannot physically damage you in any fashion; the most they can damage is your psychological state




Psychological suffering can be the worst in the world.


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5493033 - 04/08/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The fact that you posted this question suggests that you are somewhat worried about your frequency of use.

If it worries you, use it less. If you are not experiencing problems from your use, then don't worry about it.

Maybe just lay off a bit. I went through a period where I tripped on LSD or mushrooms any time I had a free evening, sometimes 2 times a week or more. What happens is that the trips become boring and repetative, lacking serious content and meaning, I felt like I was firmly in contorl of the experience. I then had a few trips that really challenged me, and I decided to lay off for a while. I wasn't fucked up by the frequent trips, but I was ignoring the messages I was getting that I would be better off to slow down.

The advice I can give is to remain aware of your inner processes. If you are feeling like its too much then listen to that feeling. Examine your reasons for taking it a lot, and what you are trying to accomplish. If you try using these substances as just a fun time, they will eventually come back and bite you in the ass. They are very powerful tools.

You could try seeking out other methods of changing your consciousness such as meditation, breathwork, or tai chi which will help you integrate some of the experiences. Psychedelics break down the barriers to subconscious material and soften the ego, that can is a good thing, but sometimes not so good things can come up in the process which need to be worked through. Try and learn the lessons it has been teaching you. If you have strong feelings that you have pushed it a little to far, then listen to and respect that feeling. It probably means you have unlocked enough for now and it is a calling to work on that before unlocking more.


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Re: is it bad to use mushrooms, even a fair amount? [Re: Gopal]
    #5493095 - 04/08/06 01:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm surpised you would do shrooms so many times since last fall, and still not even know for sure if they are bad for you or not.

Not good man... gotta know what u put in your body.

And physicaly you safe... Nothing to worry about here. Tis better so space out your trips for the shrooms have a mind of their own.


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