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Invisiblemrdasani
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What happens if dosing before sleeping?
    #548966 - 02/12/02 03:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I was wondering if any of you guys out there were curious about shrooming in your dreams. Would this even be possible? Who has ever tried this and what happened?

I would think this is probably a very interesting thing to try. But it could also be a waste of time, Im not sure.


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: mrdasani]
    #548971 - 02/12/02 03:23 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I've tried it and I woke up after about 40 minutes fryin balls...It was fun.


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: mrdasani]
    #549005 - 02/12/02 03:58 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I wouldn't fall asleep no matter how hard I tried. I can't sleep on shrooms, not even when coming down.


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: mrdasani]
    #549015 - 02/12/02 04:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I fell asleep once while on a pretty heavy morning glory trip and woke up still tripping. I don't remember any funky dreams or anything.


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: mrdasani]
    #549058 - 02/12/02 04:30 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I was wondering about this very same thing the other day. I was thinking about waiting till I was exteremely tired one night and then taking a few melatonin pills. Then once I feel like I can't keep my eyes open any longer, I would take the mushies and go to bed. Let me know if you do it, and how it was. I will inform you of the same if I do it.


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: CuckoosNest]
    #549077 - 02/12/02 04:45 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well for the most part I just had a new idea. I was checking out a site that someone posted (forgot who...sorry) and it was damn interesting. It had info about lucid dreaming and how to practice exploring your dreamhttp://members.aol.com/DVD700/universe.html (near the middle ....test #1). So I might try practicing this lucid dreaming technique and then try shrooming when I know I can't wake up after a full nights sleep. Anyway, this is just a trip idea to throw to you guys who want to try something that might be "consistent" meaning your trips might be able to be controlled by you 100%. Who knows?


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: CuckoosNest]
    #549116 - 02/12/02 05:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i'm glad you asked. late the other night, on the spur of the moment, i decided take 3 grams, but as soon as i started munchin them down i got a terrible stomache ache. so i just took it as i sign that i shouldn't dose w/o plannig ahead and put the rest(bout 2 grams) away. anyways, i ended up smokin out and went to bed about 2 1/2 hours later. what happened next is VERY hard to explain and hard to remember. i guess it was about the same time as i was falling alseep, that i could feel the room and everything around me quickly growing in intensity, i could hear/feel/sense it very strongly. it was like the energy in the room and all objects around me were flowing at a high frequency or speed. and then i could feel the same thing going on in my body. the intensity of it all just kept getting stronger and stronger. then i heard some very strange sounds repeating and i began to feel myself slowly rising up. at that point i couldn't resist thinking about the situation and i lost concentration- it was over. something similar has happened about 7 or 8 times, always when i'm halfway asleep. usually i just get this feeling that i'm flying, falling, and/or spinning at a TREMEDOUS speed. i can feel and hear the wind blowing against me, it's loud. if i try to think about what's going on, it goes away, but if i can remain thoughtless i can usually ride it out for a while. it's almost fun. so what you all make of this? think i need psychiatric help?


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: mrdasani]
    #549135 - 02/12/02 05:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

When I went picking last year (for the first time) I struck gold and found a load of Ps Cyanescens. I was pretty sure I had identified them properly, but as I was to be giving some away I thought it best to test just in case. It was late sunday night and I had work in the morning but if I didn't dose that night I wouldn't get a chance untill the following weekend (and as I'd already informed peeps of my good fortune they would be looking for a sample the following weekend, oh well). I took two dry medium specimens and reasoned that as I only wanted to check for psychactivity I would wait for the tell tale signs and if they appeared I would get some sleep. After roughly twenty minutes a noticable shaking was occuring throughout my person accompanied by confused thought and light headedness. I thought "there's my cue," and jumped into bed to get sleep.

I don't know how long I dreamt for while high but I rember one part of the dream vividly. I found myself stood in a well lit extremly large cave. The source of light was an old looking fireplace (which didn't strike me as being at all out of character, thus this dream cannot be considerd lucid) roaring with energy. I remember looking deeply into the flame mesmerised by it's action, the blues, reds, purples morphing and consuming each other with supreme effeiciency... Then I awoke in my bed, not in darkness (you know how it usually takes some time for you're eyes to adjust) but with the all too familure pixel world vision (woh!), remembering what I'd done I jumped up to find out what the time was and realised I must have sleeped clean through the peak effects of this trip ( I'd been out for just over three hrs). "Well fuck it I was up know" I thought no point in wasting decent UP-time, so I grabbed my walkman flipped in the Moody Blues' Days of future passed sat back and chilled watching CEV's till I fell asleep again.

Sorry that was so long, but if you did stick with it I hope you come to the same conclusion I have abouut dosing then sleeping. It's a waste of a good dose IMO, unless of course you have mastered lucid teckniques, if not then you're just adding another dense layer to that seemingly impenetrable wall.



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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
    #549196 - 02/12/02 06:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

thanks for the input. it makes a lot of sense


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: mrdasani]
    #549207 - 02/12/02 06:44 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

My first trip actually was just a few hours before going to sleep... didn't think about the fact that it takes longer when your stomach is full so when I finally noticed some effects it was pretty late already. So I decided to sleep since it was a pretty boring trip anyway (took only 1-2 gram to test my sensitivity to mushrooms). I however had a hard time getting to sleep. Thoughts kept wandering trough my head and I couldn't let my mind go. When I finally went to sleep it was a pretty restless and not a reviving night. Don't remember any dreams, like usual (forget them a few minutes after I'm awake). But I wouldn't be surprised if I actually dreamed a lot.


Edited by PsyFlux (02/12/02 06:44 PM)


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: PsyFlux]
    #550694 - 02/14/02 01:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I've tripped in my sleep twice...both times were amazing.
Well not really tripped in my sleep per say (as I believe that would be rather impossible) but I was tripping when I awoke.
My first night tripping, after a few hours of mind-blowing fun with 3gs of Psi Cubensis, I was feeling rather out of it and somehow ended up *accidently* eating an additional 3gs, this time of a much stronger hawaiian strain of cyanesens (or however the hell you spell that). Well, about 10 minutes after I took the second dose, I suddenly realized what I had done...and I remember being completely drowned in a hurricane of pure goddamn fear. I decided that the best thing to do was just sleep (hah!) and that if I slept, i would just wake up the next morning and everything would be ok.

How wrong I was...

Although I DID somehow manage to fall asleep (i had *just* finished peaking from the psi cubies, and i was still pretty high) the second dose woke me up about thirty five minutes after I took it. The odd thing is. the trip began IN MY DREAMs, and when I woke up I distincly remember thinking "shit, that was the scariest dream of my life" only to discover that I was tripping HARD. Freakiest night of my life, I kept wondering if I was sleeping or dreaming or tripping or dying (my eyes were closed the whole time afterward and to this day I dont know if I slept AT ALL that night or if I just tripped the whole night with my eyes closed...very mystical)

The second time, I took a 3g dose of cyansences, only to read on the internet a few minutes later about tolerance. I thought to myself, "oh shit, theres no way in hell I'm gonna trip now, I just wasted 3 grams of quality shrooms" and made my way to bed. After twenty minutes or so, I started getting light visuals and rationalized "hmm well maybe they kicked in lately. Whatever, this is boring I'm going to sleep." Then maybe forty minutes later, JUST before I fell asleep completely,  they started to kick in really hard and kicked me in the ass, full strength. Suffice to say, I didn't sleep a wink the whole night till around 5 :smile: 


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: jimmy_page]
    #550829 - 02/14/02 04:22 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

have you ever read anything on astral projection?



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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: dizZy_bOy]
    #551025 - 02/14/02 10:30 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I doubt id ever be able to sleep after munching. I get quite anxious. Id also be too afraid of ruining it. And once its set in theres no going back.


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: mrdasani]
    #551042 - 02/14/02 10:48 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

It's like trying to sleep with a ten foot pole up your ass.....good luck


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: homage_etd]
    #551608 - 02/14/02 06:58 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

hmm nice little analogy there between shrooming and uh having a pole stuck up your ass...guess that shows how much you really appreciate the experience ey? :blush: 


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: Lord_of_Fungus]
    #551628 - 02/14/02 07:17 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

In reply to:

It's like trying to sleep with a ten foot pole up your ass.....good luck




One way to describe the the pre-trip jitters. :-D


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: mrdasani]
    #552178 - 02/15/02 05:29 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

ive triped while sleeping. but usualy my dreams are too complex to remember. or only bits and peices wich make no imediate sense.


But has anyone ever dosed IN there dream. i mean.. your dreaming.. and you take some lsd or mushrooms.. and trip in your dream.

ive had several ocasions were ive eaten lsd in my dreams and woke up in a pitch black dark room seeing pattern visuals and feeling "off-base" it usualy last 2-10 minutes before i fully wake up

my main goal usualy while tripping is to get in contact with my inner self.

while dreaming about eating lsd i was meditating in my dream trippin nuts trying to get in contact with my Outer self. and when i did.. i woke up.

and ever since ive had this shift in my mind.. everything i see i feel influence me inside and thus outside. well i guess theres really no inside and outside to me anymore.. since that dream.


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: mrdasani]
    #552264 - 02/15/02 09:11 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Just passing through...

Taking a regular dose before going to sleep is likely to cause Insomnia, & you not getting asleep at all. If you do, you might either get strong dreams or wake up feeling real good or pretty desori?ntated. I don't reccommend it.

A really small amount (like 1/60-1/30oz or 0.5-1gr cubies) is more likely to not awaken you & intensify/Deepen your dreamworld.
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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: Asante]
    #552272 - 02/15/02 09:28 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ive never wanted to sleep on mushrooms, I've lucid dreamed on high doses of LSD and would repeat it in a heartbeat, but I do suppose I'd like to try it, Going to sleep tripping and waking up still tripping is rather enjoyable


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Re: What happens if dosing before sleeping? [Re: MissFiringNeuron]
    #552330 - 02/15/02 11:05 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I used to have insomnia. I'd try to sleep all night and then at like 9 in the morning I would finally fall asleep. Well one day I stayed up all night and was like fuck it I'm gonna eat some acid and stay up all day. Well I ate 5 hits. Laid on my bed and started watching tv. Well 2 hours later I woke up tripping my balls off. I was so fucked up because I didn't get the onset of the trip it was sleep then peak. In-fucking-sane. So I got up poured Vodka and orange juice into a water bottle and set out to get me a cigarrette. Well I go to my friends house and she doesn't have any but she offers to chill with me. So we're hangin outside her house, now mind you its 9 in the morning. Some guy is walking down the street so I go and ask the man for a cigarrette. He informs me that he does not smoke cigarrettes, But I noticed he was smoking a cigar So I'm like oh cigars not cigarrettes. He informs me that he does not smoke cigars either. So at 9 in the morning me and my friend and my newfound friend sat on the side of the street and smoked a FAT blunt. I live in the suburbs so this is not a normal thing. I also thought that I knew everybody on my block but once again fate comes thru with a FATTY B-lo.

Thats my story for the day hope ya liked it.


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