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OfflineJtrip
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COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM
    #5489480 - 04/07/06 12:38 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Ok so i wake up after a night out to a bang on my door. It was the fucking cops, they got some info that i was selling weed out of my dorm. Luckily I didnt have any weed on me, THANK GOD. They found my grinder and 2 adderalls. But they straight up told me that adderall is a felony and that they were gonna charge me if I didnt help them. They said that i have to go buy some weed for them. WHAT DO I DO??? I cant get a felony, but at the same time I cant rat someone out.

Any advice about the ins and outs of this procedure, how i can buy the weed and not fuck over the dealer too bad, how i can not have to do it at all.

Ive got some badass weed hookups and dont want to fuck them. But someone fucked me, i just dont know who.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489498 - 04/07/06 12:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Having two adderall is a felony? You should start by calming down, remaining sober, and doing some research to make sure the cops aren't fucking YOU. I'd also throw out, get rid of somehow give em to someone, all weed-related paraphernalia in your dorm.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5489502 - 04/07/06 12:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Yup. Clean up your computer as well. They are just trying to intimidate you into giving them information. Get a public defender if you can't afford an attorney, and only speak to the police/prosecuters/county or district attorneys with him/her present.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5489504 - 04/07/06 12:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

lol. dude dont rat no one. your just a college kid who smokes pot and had a couple of prescription pharmies. not a big thing.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5489505 - 04/07/06 12:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Yes this is a total intimidation scheme they're running and you can't let them get you all panicked and let yourself be pushed around like this.

Okay, so they have "information" on you. And two pills of adderall. And you had no weed on you. Did they confiscate the grinder? Stay sober and get rid of everything.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5489509 - 04/07/06 12:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

wow I couldnt even falthum rating on someone
dude take it like a man and deal with life
shit happens no need to deal with it


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btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
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I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489519 - 04/07/06 12:46 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

don't rat out other people to save your own ass.

a cousin of mine was busted with a small amount of perscription drugs that he did not have a perscription for. it was not a felony in the slightest. just fines, probation, and a misdemeanor.

again, don't rat out other people to save your own ass


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489525 - 04/07/06 12:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Exactly, just take some deep breaths and try to relax. IF someone ratted you out, then it doesn't mean that you in turn should do the same. The chances that they will spend their time prosecuting one person for having two adderalls on them are very slim. At most I'd bet they'd fine you.

DON'T LET THEM INTIMIDATE YOU!

Look up the laws for your state, and see what the absolute MAXIMUM penalty is for that possession. Chances are it's either a fine or some sort of probation/community service. Then realize that the chance that they'll waste their time charging one little person is minimal.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Krishna]
    #5489531 - 04/07/06 12:50 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Krishna said: don't rat out other people to save your own ass




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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: UlcerPentacidis]
    #5489540 - 04/07/06 12:52 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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UlcerPentacidis said:
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Krishna said: don't rat out other people to save your own ass







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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Krishna]
    #5489541 - 04/07/06 12:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Krishna said:

again, don't rat out other people to save your own ass




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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Krishna]
    #5489545 - 04/07/06 12:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

In some states, Florida being one, If you are caught with prescription medication that is not prescribed to you, no matter how harmless the drug, it is a felony.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489551 - 04/07/06 12:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

felony for two adderalls?  And now they want you not just to give info, but to actually go out and do narc work:lol:

fuck that.  Get a good lawyer and tell them to go fuck themselves. 

did they have a warrant?  what evidence did they use to obtain it besides heresay?  This whole case reeks of bad policework. 

I'm pretty sure you won't get more than a years probation and thats if the case isn't dropped entirely.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: UlcerPentacidis]
    #5489552 - 04/07/06 12:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I just realized that they didnt take my grinder which had some seeds and stems in the carrier. On a college campus having adderall is a big deal, it IS a felony, i know people who have had felony charges pressed on them for it.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: UlcerPentacidis]
    #5489554 - 04/07/06 12:55 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

did they have a warrant?....did they confiscate the adderall without probable cause? if so the aderall cannot be used against you as evidence .


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #5489555 - 04/07/06 12:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

usually police do not need a warrant to search a dorm-room - the college gives them permission, and you sign your rights to privacy away when you live there


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489559 - 04/07/06 12:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I need to think up a scheme to trick the cops... Like stash some weed in the bathroom a walmart, say im meeting a guy there and just give them my stash when i come out.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #5489564 - 04/07/06 12:58 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

they definitly werent looking for adderall, and i dont think they had a warrant but as someone else said, it is a college dorm, we have no rights here.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489574 - 04/07/06 01:02 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

They don't want weed, they want to bust someone else. I say man up and fight it in court.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489577 - 04/07/06 01:02 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Jtrip said:
they definitly werent looking for adderall, and i dont think they had a warrant but as someone else said, it is a college dorm, we have no rights here.




Like darkfly said, a sack of weed isn't going to make them go "All right, we're all done here, we got more weed!" They want to make arrests.


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-Erik Davis


Edited by OneMoreRobot3021 (04/07/06 01:03 PM)


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489578 - 04/07/06 01:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

That's an extremely bad idea, re: the weed in walmart. I would seriously talk to a lawyer first. They might not have had the right to come in without consent, it depends on your local laws. I know in some cases a renter/leaser has the same rights as a property owner in areas outside the common area (ie, in a bedroom). Also check if having 2 unprescribed adderal is a felony.

Good luck.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489583 - 04/07/06 01:04 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Which state do you live in?


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489584 - 04/07/06 01:04 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Don't even speak to them without an attorney present. Don't try and make any deals, or pull a fast one on them. I have a feeling that if you are educated, and exercise your civil liberties that they will not even pursue this, or if they do, the most you will recieve is a fine/probation.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5489602 - 04/07/06 01:10 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

did they have a warrent? did you let them in? EVERYONE on this website needs to be prepared for this kinda shit, if theyre not already. We all ride the perimeter. get a hold of your local NORML group and ask them for advice. what state are you in? and remember:
Snitches get Stitches. look around online for more info on how to speak (or not) to police. do you have a clean record?


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5489607 - 04/07/06 01:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

oh, you have rights in the dorm room. And they do have to have a search warrant.

Police tried to obtain a warrant on me before and couldn't and could not enter my room. They tried the "can we talk in your room"

I was like "no, we can talk out here in the hall." i then procedded to lock my door from the outside.

They got nothing. I don't know why you let them in.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Liquidkick]
    #5489631 - 04/07/06 01:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i completly forgot I had the adderall or else i wouldnt have let them look around. They didnt care about the grinder, didnt even take it. Im in Texas. What is NORML??


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489634 - 04/07/06 01:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I cant afford a lawyer and I DEF cant tell my parents about this....


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489637 - 04/07/06 01:18 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.norml.org

National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489640 - 04/07/06 01:18 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489644 - 04/07/06 01:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Jtrip said:
I cant afford a lawyer and I DEF cant tell my parents about this....




You're gonna have to decide at some point whether you want the cops pushing you around or you want your parents mad at you and on your side.

I know for me the choice would be easy: my parents love me, the cops just want to fuck me


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-Erik Davis


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5489646 - 04/07/06 01:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
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Jtrip said:
I cant afford a lawyer and I DEF cant tell my parents about this....




You're gonna have to decide at some point whether you want the cops pushing you around or you want your parents mad at you and on your side.

I know for me the choice would be easy: my parents love me, the cops just want to fuck me




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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489648 - 04/07/06 01:20 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Jtrip said:
I cant afford a lawyer and I DEF cant tell my parents about this....




Get a public defender if you are actually brought up on charges. If they arrest you, DO NOT WIMP OUT AND START TALKING. They will bring you to an arraignment hearing within 72 hours, as per your miranda rights.. Please NOT GUILTY, and request a public defender. They will appoint one for you, as per your miranda rights.

You have the right to remain silent - USE IT.
You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed for you by the court. - UTILIZE IT.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5489662 - 04/07/06 01:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

public pretender is what he meant


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: fee]
    #5489673 - 04/07/06 01:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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fee said:
public pretender is what he meant




I had one good one once.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5489716 - 04/07/06 01:39 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

You do not need a search warrant to enter into a dorm room. The school owns the property and therefore they are the ones who allow the police into your room. Most campuses nowadays have police as campus security, our school grants all police the ability to enter into a dorm room and search it if there is reasonable suspicion.

However if you keep your stash hidden in a foot locker which is locked, that is YOUR property and the police need to obtain a warrant to open it.

DO NOT get a public defender, these guys DO NOT CARE (most of the time) about your outcome. Most do what they can to get in and out of the court, usually that involves you pleading guilty to some charges and having the penalty lessened since you plead guilty. DO NOT GO THIS ROUTE. There are lawyers out there who will work with you on payments, you can obtain loans and finances from a bank, but what you should really do is TALK TO YOUR PARENTS. Weigh out your options, get truly fucked up the ass and have your parents mad at you, or have your parents be mad at you but get you off as cleanly as possible. You can give your rents lots of excuses why you had the drugs, they'll still love you, a judge will tend to fuck you over if the case is presented right.

DO NOT BECOME A SNITCH. Cops just want to use you to get to others, many times this wont even lessen your sentence or make you look any better. My friend was busted in his dorm with a lot of xanax, the cop tried to make him an informer and my friend just dicked them around. Nothing negative ever came of it and his lawyer got the xanax charges dropped completely. There is no reason to fuck over others for your mistakes, how would you feel if you sold a bag to a snitch who turned you in as a dealer?


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Scott Bennett]
    #5489736 - 04/07/06 01:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yeah dude, if they haven't aressted you, like I believe they should if they are charging you with a felony, correct me if Im wrong, then you are gonna be just fine. Find a friend (anyone) that is perscribed for aderal, and have them say they left it in your dorm after staying the night and you had no idea, make it a chick if you can, a guy if your one, make it believable. Again correct me if Im wrong but if it was perscribed to some body and it wasnt yours they shouldnt prosicute you.

AND NEVER TALK WITH THEM AGAIN UNLESS YOU HAVE A LAWYER, If they dont take you to court forget about it, they have a certain time frame to do so, or else they have to let you off.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Mr_Spliff]
    #5489759 - 04/07/06 01:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Also where were the pills?? Do you have a roomate? If you're living with someone, and unless you admitted to owning them outright, how can they prove they were yours? If i lived with two people and one of my roomates left his adderal pills on my coffee table that does not constitute me possessing them.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Mr_Spliff]
    #5489767 - 04/07/06 01:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i know some people with adderall scripts...


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489768 - 04/07/06 01:50 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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i completly forgot I had the adderall or else i wouldnt have let them look around. They didnt care about the grinder, didnt even take it. Im in Texas. What is NORML??




I still don't know why you let them in. Even if you aint got shit to worry about,,NEVER FUCKING LET NARCS IN. EVER!


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489780 - 04/07/06 01:52 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

alright man.. speaking from having a brother and a dad as a cop.. THEY WILL lie with no problem. They can say stuff that in no way is true.. just to get you to tell the truth/lead to others. do research...


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Mr_Spliff]
    #5489799 - 04/07/06 01:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

they're trying to scare you. don't be a snitch. thats the number 1 rule of the streets man. you shouldnt sling if your not ready to accept the consequences. you really shouldnt sling if your living in a dorm, thats asking for trouble.

if you can, go to your parents with this man, they can probly help you pay for a lawyer better than anyone else. i doubt theyll kick you out of the family for a few pills. tell them you had them so you could stay up to study. its not like its crack or heroin, it's ADD medicine. as for the weed... i dunno sometimes you just gotta come clean and admit it.
"Mom, I smoke pot." your in college, they probly expect it. and as long as your passing classes you can just remind them that your trying to do something with your life. weed just helps you cope with the stresses of school. just my 2 cents. hope it works out for you.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5489927 - 04/07/06 02:31 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

always keep in mind that the letter of the law is rarely fully enforced, especially in drug cases. The fact of the matter is, unless the judge is an unreasonable hardass, he's not going to lock you up for 2 fucking adderall. They simply don't have enough room in jails for that. Add to the equation you're a rich kid in college and I can almost garuntee you'll get a couple years probation, tops.

one thing though. Your parents will have to know. Grow a pair and tell them, as I'm sure that they (or any other middle class parent) do not want their kid to go to jail. They will probably be of valuable assistance to you in this matter. And you have to tell them you're a druggy sooner or later, they're your freakin family.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5489987 - 04/07/06 02:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

these cops are obviously going to next tell the weed dealer they bust that he needs to help them get his source or he's screwed. They're just trying to climb the chain, thinking they're big fucking heroes, doing something their asshole of a dad would pat them on the back for.

Tell them the weed or pills was given to you at a bar from a stranger some vague number of weeks ago and that you have no way of finding out who he was, and stick to that story whatever they think of it. The worst thing you could do in this situation is give them what they want, and if it comes down to it just take it like a man - many people here have done that before, and it's better than fucking someone else, who'd be in for a much bigger charge, over.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490060 - 04/07/06 03:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Cops came to your dorm room without a warrant and you let them in.... sucks for you. All you have to do is keep denying them until one goes ouit for either a warrant or a school official with a key who has the right to go inside your room without permission (if thats the case at your school) -- or eventually they will give up for the moment. When they don't have a warrant, or enough real evidence to convince a judge to give them one, often times their target will just let them into the place to so they can get the evidence they want anyway.

I once stood outside my dorm room with two cops for 30 minutes one night as they kept trying to intimidate me to let them in. Kept saying shit like "Well, what have you got to hide that we can't come in?" "We just want to help you, you know..." "If you cooperate with us, it will be a lot easier..." "We just want to to talk privately, can't we go in your room?" They did not have a warrant - I did not let them in. They told me they knew I had pot in my room, and that other peple/students had told them so. But they did not have a warrant. They left and never came back (but I did not hold or smoke in my room for a while after that..)

It douesn't sounds like you were arrested on the spot with the pills. That is good because now you have a chance to get a lawyer or more helpful advice than internet forums. Does your school provide any legal services for students who need them?

Don't play their game bro - they are trying to take advantage of your being a scared student, unfamiliar with your rights and the law, not wanting to get a felony on your record. Get real legal help in this.... don't talk with cops again without representation.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Disco Cat]
    #5490088 - 04/07/06 03:32 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

My school has a lawyers office which helps students with matters like these. Ive got an appointment with them in about half an hour. Ill keep yall posted


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490188 - 04/07/06 04:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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My school has a lawyers office which helps students with matters like these. Ive got an appointment with them in about half an hour. Ill keep yall posted




good luck, and yeah.. next time tell 'em they can't come in.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490197 - 04/07/06 04:05 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Do not do the narc thing. That would be the pussy's way out. Just because you were unwise enough to let them in your room does not mean you should help them ruin other people's lives.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490279 - 04/07/06 04:39 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

GO TO YOUR SCHOOL'S LAW FACULTY THEY USUALLY HAVE A STUDENT BODY THAT OFFERS ADVICE AND SUCH


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Redstorm]
    #5490282 - 04/07/06 04:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ok so she told me that if i had told them no that the cops couldnt have come in. this lady knew her shit, she used to be the county prosecutor and then specialized in drug cases. She said i was lucky that i only had to do one buy, usually its 3. She also said that adderall is a felony and a felony will basicly fuck you for the next 65 years of yourlife. She told me to do the buy....... i dont think i am.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490288 - 04/07/06 04:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

if you could, please pm me the name of your school. It sounds like they're doin a real number on you. I'd like to add them to my personal shit list.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490387 - 04/07/06 05:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Doesnt sound like much of lawyer if she told you to do a buy.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490404 - 04/07/06 05:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

No please do not do a buy. Please please please

This just happened to my friend here at my school, someone got caught with a tiny amount of weed and got intimidated into ratting out his dealer.

His dealer was a good friend of mine and my dorm neighbor. Poor guy got caught with enough drugs to put him in jail for a good portion of the rest of his life.

All because someone couldn't stand up and fight the authority.

They told him he couldnt avoid all his jailtime (my neighbor) if he would just narc out some people, instead he bit the bullet and hired some lawyers. He's now a hero around here and some very angry people are still looking for the narc.

Please don't narc out anyone else, stop the cops here. You know how it felt to have someone narc you out, can you imagine doing that to someone else?


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490412 - 04/07/06 05:31 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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he said i was lucky that i only had to do one buy, usually its 3. She also said that adderall is a felony and a felony will basicly fuck you for the next 65 years of yourlife. She told me to do the buy....... i dont think i am.




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    #5490415 - 04/07/06 05:31 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #5490427 - 04/07/06 05:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

1. Go to a real lawyer. A real lawyer will get you OFF this w/o any problems. That "lady" is a narc too, and IS NOT representing your interests. She is representing the interests of the college, at best, the cops at worst.
2. Cops LIE. They are allowed to lie to you. Really. They can say anything they want. Also, a deal must be approved by the DA's office---cops just offering you one in your dorm room doesn't count you could say sure cop ill help and they CAN STILL charge you. This does not happen like it does in the movies.
3. DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS OR ADMIT TO ANYTHING.
4. Possesion of 2 pills will not fuck your life up for 65 years, dude i know you're scared but have some common sense. There is a long chain of events from a cop finding something to charges being filled to discovery to pre-trial hearings etc....at any point during the process a good lawyer can beat this shit. Plus this costs the state/county money and more importantly court time. They are not going to waste all that on 2 adderalls.
5. You can tell your parents you use the adderall to study
6. They don't want a bad they want a body.
7. DO NOT ADMIT TO ANYTHING. DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS.
8. Have you been arrested yet? Or did they just try to bully you in your dorm? If they were going to arrest you, they would have.
9. Bluelight has a huge archieve of good material for this.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490442 - 04/07/06 05:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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ok so she told me that if i had told them no that the cops couldnt have come in. this lady knew her shit, she used to be the county prosecutor




So you did tell the cops they could come in? I'm at a complete loss as to why people would do this. Must be the same people who say "Sure, you can search my car", when they know damn well they have a bag of weed under seat. Always REFUSE. You will not get in less trouble for cooperating. If a cop had the right to search your house/car/person, he wouldnt ASK. He'd handcuff you and do it no matter what you said. I cant stress enough, to ALWAYS refuse a search. Even if your clean, dont let a pig get away with an abuse of authority.

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and then specialized in drug cases. She told me to do the buy....... i dont think i am.




You sure sound like your thinking about it. I cant believe someone would THINK about doing this. Its 2 fucking adderall. If you honestly think that the DA is going to go through all the trouble of filing and prosecuting a FELONY case for 2 prescription pills, your out of your mind. THINK. What a ridiculous situation. You should have just said no.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5490559 - 04/07/06 06:23 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

1. get rid of the grinder & any other evidence that
could be used against you.

2. tell your parents what these cops are doing to you
AND get a lawyer.

3. tell them you had a bunch of people in your dorm
and someone left the adderall there. you have no clue how the adderal got there.

4. fuck the police.

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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: 40oz]
    #5490572 - 04/07/06 06:32 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=114373&r=1

READ that thread. everyone prolly should, honestly


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    #5490581 - 04/07/06 06:39 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

did they TAKE the adderal pills? If they didn't arrest you for that shit and you stay completely and totally silent and get a GOOD LAWYER you can probably easily beat this shit.

You don't just take a felony away and leave the person free if you are planning on prosecuting.... fight it, stay silent, get that lawyer, the longer you go without squeaming around under their hateful eyes, the more likely they are to give up.

it's 2 damn adderal.

and how do they know you're selling if you don't have any weed on you? It may have been for recreational use only.

get the lawyer, tell your parents. they may flip out but they will be on your side when they calm down.

fight the power, do not snitch.

if no one snitched, ever, when they arrested, cops would stop using that strategy and the war on drugs wouldn't be so corrupt as it is now.

don't trust any school official that comes down on you like that wanting you to turn over...... i'm sure any credible lawyer would LAUGH at 2 adderal pills ...... even if it's a felony dude, let the lawyer work with the courts to get it thrown out, don't work with the cops to get you to admit guilt... the cops dont' care about reducing sentences that much, laywers, judges, and courts do.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: 40oz]
    #5490583 - 04/07/06 06:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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1. get rid of the grinder & any other evidence that
could be used against you.

2. tell your parents what these cops are doing to you
AND get a lawyer.

3. tell them you had a bunch of people in your dorm
and someone left the adderall there. you have no clue how the adderal got there.

4. fuck the police.

5. snitches end up in *ditches




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    #5490591 - 04/07/06 06:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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don't rat out other people to save your own ass.

again, don't rat out other people to save your own ass



I cringe at the thought of him actually thinking about doing it. :nonono:Kids these days. If you are scared of the consequences of your actions, maybe you shouldn't be doing them. People piss me off. Going to rat someone out to try and save your own ass. Karma will do much more to you than the pigs can. You can bet on that. 2 adderall?:shake: Get a lawyer.


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    #5490626 - 04/07/06 06:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ok, if i were you i would not say any plans of diverting the police on the internet or over the phone. im not sure how big a deal they think you are, but if they think your using any of them for selling and have evidence to suspect that you are; they can search that and tap into ur shit. keep it on the downlow. but i agree, you do need to come up with some very elaborate and flawless plan. till' then keep anything involving this on the downlow other than taking advice.


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    #5490636 - 04/07/06 07:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Dude. Nobody is going to tap his dorm room telephone for 2 fucking adderall.

Christ. You make it sound like it was a fucking pound. He doesnt need to come up w/ "An elaborate and flawless plan". He just needs to keep his mouth shut and not say a word, since by saying "Yes, you can come and search my room" he already got himself in enough trouble....


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    #5490648 - 04/07/06 07:12 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude. Nobody is going to tap his dorm room telephone for 2 fucking adderall.

Christ. You make it sound like it was a fucking pound. He doesnt need to come up w/ "An elaborate and flawless plan". He just needs to keep his mouth shut and not say a word, since by saying "Yes, you can come and search my room" he already got himself in enough trouble....




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    #5490654 - 04/07/06 07:15 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

you still should be careful, with the patriot act in effect, being on a college campus, not knowing what theyre exact suspicions are and one charge against you, id still watch what you say. havent read the whole thread though.


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    #5490694 - 04/07/06 07:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Let me say this one thing. I simply want to lay some things down.

You take a risk having drugs. You take a risk letting other people know you have drugs. You take a risk letting cops into your room.

You are doing all these things on your own. Nobody else is at fault here, but you. If you try to pin this on someone else, you are a fraud - morally corrupt. It sucks that someone ratted you out, sure. That's all the more reason to not make the same mistake that he did. Respect - treat others as you would like to be treated.

Obviously you are going to be fucked. That's just the way it is. The thing you should do is get some good legal advice to decide whether or not you should plead guilty or innocent. It seems to me that you might as well plead guilty because you let them in and they have the evidence to bust you. So why not bite the bullet? Tell the judge you're sorry. You take the pills for all-nighters when you get flooded with homework. Hope he/she pities you.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #5490724 - 04/07/06 07:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Lawyers are fucking expensive, do yall think i could represent myself in this situation? I mean, if all im doing is throwing myself to the mercy of the court hoping that the judge doesnt wanna fuck a college kid over 2 study pills.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490729 - 04/07/06 08:01 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Jtrip said:
Lawyers are fucking expensive, do yall think i could represent myself in this situation?




NO! Let a suit handle it. Trust me.

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Jtrip said:
I mean, if all im doing is throwing myself to the mercy of the court hoping that the judge doesnt wanna fuck a college kid over 2 study pills.




Get a lawyer. Borrow money if you have to. Although, considering that you already consented to the search (doofus!)....you are kind of fucked.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490731 - 04/07/06 08:02 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I think a free public defender would be better than representing your self. You can probably plea away felonies/time and other bad stuff for short term probation and community service. I plea bargined every one of the multiple charges i have been brought up on.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: DieCommie]
    #5490734 - 04/07/06 08:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

From best to worst:

1. Private lawyer
2. Public defender
3. Representing yourself


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5490745 - 04/07/06 08:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

You forgot number 4

4. snitching

if you snitch there is no guarantee that you will get a less sentence. In fact, it may prove that you are in the drug culture, and not just an innocent who is a victim of circumstance.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Jtrip]
    #5490769 - 04/07/06 08:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

They say that a man who represents himself has a fool for a client and a fool for a lawyer.


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    #5490795 - 04/07/06 08:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: dr_gonz]
    #5490813 - 04/07/06 08:51 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

do you have any idea how much paper work a lawyer has to fill out? no chance you can do it and get it right.

dude, you have not even been arrested yet. if you do get arrested, its not like you go right to court. it takes MONTHS to YEARS before you get to trail. Most defense attorneys have a payment plan.

but like i said, you have not even been charged yet. the cops left the grinder, throw it out. did they leave the pills? flush them.

if you get arrested you are going to have to post bail. take advantage of this time to find someone to bail you out. and cops can't make deals...only the DA can, and you need your own lawyer there to SIGN the paperwork and make sure you get don't get fucked. READ THAT AGAIN. Cops can turn you into an informant, ie they will have you working for them for years. unless you have a signed deal from the DA, the next day after you rat out your friend, the cops CAN (and prolly will) come back and ask you to rat on another one.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Taco Chef]
    #5490823 - 04/07/06 08:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4566

^^ok they left the grinder b/c paraphenalia in texas is only a civil citation.

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4566&wtm_view=legal

^^look at this list of lawyers in texas. START CALLING THEM. They will work with you on money after all they are NORML lawyers...they see kids getting fucked by the pigs all the time


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: Taco Chef]
    #5490917 - 04/07/06 10:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

wow you need to NOT RAT no one. and realize that what you did was a stupid thing and get going with your life.


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Re: COPS JUST RAIDED MY DORM [Re: RemainRandom50]
    #5491246 - 04/08/06 12:18 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

A good friend of mine was driving out of state in New Hampshire (We're from MA), and he was pulled over with 2 ritalin in the car. The police happened to find the ritalin and he was arrested. Eventually, after a case that went on for like 2 years, he was ordered to go to AA meetings 12 times and get signatures from the secretary there, go see a substance abuse counselor weekly for a short period of time, and that's it. Seriouly man, ratting people out is, at best, a shitty thing to do , and at worst, a good way to get yourself hurt or worse. Get a public defender, talk to them, or try to work something out with a real lawyer.

Either way,
GOod luck


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