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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: Orranis]
    #5488969 - 04/07/06 04:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There is some messed up going on right now. Umm if you are watching, I meant PEACE. no single letters, no double meanings, just I wanna be left alone. It would be nice if I were. Just let me chill, I never knew I had all the spotlight. I never wanted it.

this is the white flag post.... Post numbers should be ignored. I'm done.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: finding_self]
    #5488989 - 04/07/06 05:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

^^^
dude what are you talking about and why are all of you posts being deleted?


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: S33D]
    #5489009 - 04/07/06 05:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Dude just get a lawyer, unless you where growing tons of them you can probably get the sentence reduced to personal use and not distribution. It might be less time where you live.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: MindsEye]
    #5489064 - 04/07/06 06:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Best luck with this thing....it's a real pity.
I too wondered about so much lime...maybe its the smallet bag they had.

Also, I liked the fact that one mushroom wasn't active...a bit odd.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5489075 - 04/07/06 06:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That sux man.... Your dorm room-mate RATTED you out. Where did you say you got the syringes... all I see is INTERNET. Should of just said I got them from *my roomie* then he was mad at me and ratted me out.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: time2]
    #5489085 - 04/07/06 07:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

first, you shouldnt have admitted guilt. second, pay the cash and get a GOOD lawyer. Third, i dont think they are allowed to open stuff that you have intentionally closed up unless they have a warrant (like backpack, packages, locked chests, etc).

they were searching everything else in your room because they knew they couldnt search your locked chest. once you LET them, then they could.

also a lot of states wont charge you with manufacture if you were only growing enough for yourself.

and your roommate is a complete moron. i hope he dies somehow.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5489112 - 04/07/06 07:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

damn sucks man....i got one before too :frown: spent 90 days in the clink(but had a  few previouse crimes)..sucked but damn youll be popular, guys  want to know how to grow 4 sure.
it was like i was teaching school half the time LOL... but ANYWAY....do not plead to anything....no matter what advise your layer gives u ....i was a dumb ass and pled...take it to trial!!! threten the whole time that u want a trial and u want to see the case discovery..becuse tested 4 psyilocin lol like there gonna pay for a spectograph if they dont have to.. or whatever the test is for psylicin im sure not cheep ...u were NOT i repete NOT manufacturing Psylosin according to the stature .u were growing a fucking mushroom,,OOOOO..u should not be it the same class as a meth cooker.PERIOD
and if someone could link the the new mexico case that would be cool....u should plead to possesion  MISDEMENOR...not manufacturing FELONY if offered
like my dumb ass... but as of now im going to start looking if i can get it supressed becuse of the newmexico case...
did u say "yeah officer im growing shrooms :frown:"
or "yeah officer im manufacturing psyllocin"?
http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/29120.html    I FOUND IT :smile:



Edited by ZEPH (04/07/06 07:45 AM)


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: Orranis]
    #5489145 - 04/07/06 07:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry about that man. Gotta know who you can trust.

If you haven't got a lawyer, do so. Get a good one.

Ya know, some books advocate shrooms for the spiritual experience. Haven't you felt that way? Your intentions were right, but you were misguided. You know that now... see where I'm going.

As long as you don't have a record, chances are things will turn out not so bad, a good lawyer being the main thing. Interview them, don't settle for the first one you find, make sure they're on your side.

Rahz


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: ZEPH]
    #5489155 - 04/07/06 07:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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ZEPH said:
damn sucks man....i got one before too :frown: spent 90 days in the clink(but had a  few previouse crimes)..sucked but damn youll be popular, guys  want to know how to grow 4 sure.
it was like i was teaching school half the time LOL... but ANYWAY....do not plead to anything....no matter what advise your layer gives u ....i was a dumb ass and pled...take it to trial!!! threten the whole time that u want a trial and u want to see the case discovery..becuse tested 4 psyilocin lol like there gonna pay for a spectograph if they dont have to.. or whatever the test is for psylicin im sure not cheep ...u were NOT i repete NOT manufacturing Psylosin according to the stature .u were growing a fucking mushroom,,OOOOO..u should not be it the same class as a meth cooker.PERIOD
and if someone could link the the new mexico case that would be cool....u should plead to possesion  MISDEMENOR...not manufacturing FELONY if offered
like my dumb ass... but as of now im going to start looking if i can get it supressed becuse of the newmexico case...
did u say "yeah officer im growing shrooms :frown:"
or "yeah officer im manufacturing psyllocin"?
http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/29120.html    I FOUND IT :smile:






even thought its really hard to read that post (lol) hes TOTALLY right. most laws dont specify that mushrooms are illegal, just psilocyn. if youre growing them, you can say you didnt know, but im sure theres a loophole in there somewhere.

get a bank loan or something and get a good lawyer!! your freedom is worth the money!! also, if the cops interrogate you, dont listen to their "were just trying to help you out" crap.

check out this site www.fuck5o.com

study and learn the law man. thats the only protection we have against the self righteous piggies.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5489174 - 04/07/06 08:07 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Regardless of what they threaten you with, keep things in perspective. They caught you with three (3) mushrooms! You're not going to get 15 years for that. Keep your spirits up mate, one day this'll be a joke you tell your friends when you?re pissed and having fun.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: Akamatsu]
    #5489193 - 04/07/06 08:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

technically mycelium have psilocybin and psilocin in them which is the controlled substance... by law, the count the "dilutant and adulterants" which would include the mushroom bodies. its stupid because that law is obviously for people who are cutting coke and stuff, but oh well...

once again our stupid govt comes to the rescue!


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: Orranis]
    #5489238 - 04/07/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

thats when you take your "freind" out for a time on the town, and throw him a beating that hell be sippin out of a straw for a while.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: inoculatedGreif]
    #5489288 - 04/07/06 09:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm curious as to the part in the article where it says one of the mushrooms contained NO psilocybin. What kind of mushroom was it? And if it was a cubenis or other such hallucinogen why didn't it contain any psilocybin?


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: JustK]
    #5489364 - 04/07/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

technically mycelium have psilocybin and psilocin in them which is the controlled substance... by law, the count the "dilutant and adulterants" which would include the mushroom bodies. its stupid because that law is obviously for people who are cutting coke and stuff, but oh well..




only at certain stages does your myc have active alkaloids in them.

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I'm curious as to the part in the article where it says one of the mushrooms contained NO psilocybin. What kind of mushroom was it? And if it was a cubenis or other such hallucinogen why didn't it contain any psilocybin?




some mushrooms just dont contain actives, it sucks, but it happens.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: Akamatsu]
    #5489372 - 04/07/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think they meant he was growing 3 active strains and 1 edible. Not 3 actual mushrooms.

And I have to agree about the locked closet. They tore your room up looking for evidence. They didn't find anything illegal so they lied to you so you would let them open it. Police will not hesitate to blatently lie all day long to scare you into giving up your rights.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5489380 - 04/07/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I think they meant he was growing 3 active strains and 1 edible. Not 3 actual mushrooms.

And I have to agree about the locked closet. They tore your room up looking for evidence. They didn't find anything illegal so they lied to you so you would let them open it. Police will not hesitate to blatently lie all day long to scare you into giving up your rights.




True. However, i'm pretty damn sure they don't need a warrant to search anything. Kind of like how in high school they found a 3 pounds of coke in my friend's girlfriend's locker :smirk:. No warrant required, you give up those rights as soon as you begin living there.

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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5489405 - 04/07/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

If the syringe was labeled with anything referenceing illegal mushrooms they then have the probable cause they need to search the room.

Spores are not illegal, this is true, but an empty syringe is a big clue you might have a grow going. Couple the empty syringe with bags of growing material and you have a pretty much rock solid reason to conduct an even more thourough search.

Everyone is so quick to jump on the cops and scream illegal search and seizure, but most of these cases DON'T fall into that category. 99% of these cases could have been avoided if the grower had taken the proper steps to precaution. Growing in a room SHARED by another who (as stated by the poster) has a grudge against you is one of the STUPIDEST ideas to have.

This may be harsh, but i have little to no sympathy for you. It sucks that you might be facing jail time for enjoying this hobby, i can feel for you on that, but cases like these are going to be the reason spores become illegal.

Get it in your head kids, dont grow if others have access to your grow space, dont grow if you live with your rents, dont grow if you're not smart enough to keep it secret and safe. Growing in a dorm room is akin to holding your hands out for some metal bracelets and starting a new relationship with your cellmate bubba.

Good luck with your court case man, get a good lawyer. Also, if any of you guys run into a situation like this follow these rules.

1.) SHUT UP dont say a GODDAMN THING. You have the RIGHT to silence, dont give this up! Police are trained in getting information from you and they will try.
2.) Deny any search, require the cops to show a warrant (if applicable), require them to SHOW you the warrant as well. If they dont have it in hand they cant search your place, if they leave to go get the warrant you now have some time to clean up a bit. Anything siezed without a search warrant IS subject to illegal search and seizure, if you dont leave things in plain sight and are living in your private residence, cops need a search warrant to search.
3.)GET YOUR LAWYER. This is another right which you have, refuse to answer any questions until you have a lawyer present, if they arrest you and are tyring to get you to talk more so you can "help yourself" follow rule 1 and SHUT UP, demand your lawyer be there and let them know you wont say jack until your lawyer is present. Ignore any threats being issued by the cops as they are all trained on how to get information from you.
4.) go to the aclu's website and learn your rights, NORML's website has a card you can print out and keep with you for situations like these, learn your rights and USE them.

good luck man.


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i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: coda]
    #5489416 - 04/07/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

^^

:thumbup:

I've noticed a big mouth and growing where someone doesn't know, to be some of the Biggest reasons for people getting in trouble with things like this...A closed mouth and some damn common sense and things like this could be avoided.

Good luck to you man :thumbup:

take care

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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: coda]
    #5489428 - 04/07/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not saying it was an illegal search. It says that he refused to let them search the closet. Then they found the syringe and he admitted what he was doing. It sounds to me like they used scare tactics to get permission to open it. If he would have stood his ground they might have gotten the evidence thrown out. Now that he admitted it he probably won't have much of a chance in court.

Moral of the story, always say no to cops, don't trust them, and don't admit to anything illegal. I would rather risk pissing off a good cop than bending over and letting a bad one rape me in the ass.


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Re: A Message to College Students - Growing in a Dorm Room isn't a good idea [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5489506 - 04/07/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Look, i feel your anguish and anxiety. I think all of us can empathize. But come on man, coda is right. People that don't fully consider the repercussions that a mouth might make is the way spores are going to become illegal. People like you are feeding the propaganda war. I mean you're a freshmen in college sharing a room with a person you've known for less than a year! I don't share my hobby with some of my closest friends of years!
Look, i'm not trying to flame you because obviously you're taking this for what it is: a learning experience. But all you other kiddies out there, Be aware of your surroundings! DONT RUIN THIS FOR THE REST OF US!

oh- i'm sure i don't have to tell you to spend everything you have to get a good lawyer. sucks that you'll never be able to go to college again though. I think i'm right about that?? State higher education institutions have a no tolerance law when it comes to drugs and a criminal history?


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