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Rahz
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Curious about PF tek
#5487729 - 04/06/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was just sitting here reading posts, and wondered why people birth jars?
Why not just pop the top, give it a light mist, perhaps shoot some sterile water down the side and cover the jar with foil?
Seems like water retention would be much easier. I know other types of shrooms are fruited this way.
Anyone done it?
Rahz
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: Rahz]
#5487744 - 04/06/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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well wouldnt it be too cramped for the mushrooms??
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Rahz
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: DICK]
#5487791 - 04/06/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wouldn't think so. 1/2 pint cakes don't have big flushes. I'm sure it's been tried and rejected, I was just curious as to why.
Rahz
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: Rahz]
#5487894 - 04/06/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's called growing invitro. Many people do it.
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Rahz
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: doubledutch]
#5487901 - 04/06/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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AFAIWA, invitro occurs inside the jar. What I'm talking about is using the verm layer as the casing layer.
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: Rahz]
#5487915 - 04/06/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The answer to your question is surface area (yield).
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: Rahz]
#5487919 - 04/06/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think its cause light will cause the sides of the jar to pin and grow invitro...they would have to be removed to clean the cakes off and would make it a hassel so everyone just births them... maybe taping the sides and bottom with some black paper before they go into the fc would stop that from happening and make it more practical..i was thinking about trying this with grain in 1 quart jars... ive seen regular shrooms grown in this manner.
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: Rahz]
#5487930 - 04/06/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just popping the top off you think they'd grow straight up? I think most would probably just end up growing along the sides of the jars... probably just like an invitro grow. Probably way better for retaining water, but you can just dunk em and pretty much fill them to capacity when they dry out. Plus you'd have all your jars being used instead of free to start another grow. I've never done it. But I figure if people want a better way to grow than the classic PF Tek, they have move on to grain casings and bulk substrates... whether it's an improvement or not, growing on cakes still sucks.
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: PORkSOdA]
#5487949 - 04/06/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rahz i know what ur saying. im wondering myself. I have a pint jar half filled. I'll see what happens. But as hyphae said... more surface are the better
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: mushboy]
#5487970 - 04/06/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hmm, well a pint half full would be the same size as a widemouth half pint. I'd have to buy BRF and go through the whole process.
It could very well be a surface area problem, but when you're talking 50-80 wet gram flushes, I'd think widemouth would be plenty big enough. Give it a shot, I'd be curious to see the yield.
Rahz
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: Rahz]
#5488012 - 04/06/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Rahz said: I wouldn't think so. 1/2 pint cakes don't have big flushes. I'm sure it's been tried and rejected, I was just curious as to why.
Rahz
Here's 5 1/2 pints I tested some LC's with

Look pretty BIG to me. Don't think they would have fit in the jars,lol 
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: HippieChick]
#5488296 - 04/06/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Seems like there would be too much water in there... the drops on the wall would get on the cake. Im curiose too tho, anyone tried it?
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Rahz
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Re: Curious about PF tek [Re: HippieChick]
#5488311 - 04/06/06 11:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow, those are some nice flushes. Those upturned caps are cool looking.
Rahz
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