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InvisibleLord_of_Fungus
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High Times Mushrooms
    #548513 - 02/12/02 02:41 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, I was flipping throught the pages of a recent High Times magazine, and came across an advertisement for mushrooms kits. It said that you just buy this stuff, and mix it all up and stuff, and set it on top of your refrigerator for two weeks, and then you'll start having a bunch of "friends" growing. It said that NO STERILE work is needed!!!! Now....somebody please tell me that there is way to duplicate this or something...cuz it would sure as hell be nice to not have to sterilize my whole body and house like as if it were contaminated with radiation every single friggin time! Is it because of the type of mushroom that you wouldnt need any sterile work? It was advertising cubensis. Also, I don't know about the rest of you, but MY refrigerator is a perfectly normal semi-new one, but the top of it doesn't seem that it would be nearly warm enough to support the habitat of the mushrooms.......I NEED AN EXPERT'S EXPLANATION!!!!!!!!


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: Lord_of_Fungus]
    #548563 - 02/12/02 04:00 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Perhaps you can scan in the page for more details.

>but the top of it doesn't seem that it would be nearly warm enough to support the habitat of the mushrooms
It?s warm at the back towards the wall where the warm air from rises.


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: Lord_of_Fungus]
    #548577 - 02/12/02 05:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Don't believe it..


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: carbonhoots]
    #548755 - 02/12/02 11:50 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

OK...I scanned the page for more details: "No sterile work needed. No syringes needed. No pressure cooker needed. No petri dishes needed. No watering needed. No artificial lighting needed. There are only 2 easy steps involved and the kit is GUARANTEED. 1. Mix the psilocybe cubensis spores and grain. 2.Mix the grain with the compost. That's it. That's all! Then you just put the plastic box, which of course comes with the kit, on top of your refrigerator....... No need to water or even look at it. Just go away and leave it. Everything is done automatically. It's that simple. And it's guaranteed." I forgot about the website that this company has: www.homesteadbook.com I hope there's some godamn expert mycologist who will eventually stumble upon this post, and enlighten me with a damm good explanation of this.


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: Lord_of_Fungus]
    #548757 - 02/12/02 11:58 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The grain is in a bag and sterilized, the spores are in the bag too, just not mixed yet. You mix in the spores without opening the bag. I think it's basically what Hawk once upon a time refered to as Rev Tek X, but that's speculation.

You may not need syringes, or a pressure cooker, or sterility.

But you do need money, and lots of it, cuz you have to buy the kit each generation.


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: Lord_of_Fungus]
    #548759 - 02/12/02 12:00 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I m far from a expert but I did read the website.. A. no way in hell to grow shrooms from spores in 2 weeks and B. by looking at the pics dont look like much of a flush for 108 bucks...AGAIN this is just my opinion.


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: Lord_of_Fungus]
    #548818 - 02/12/02 12:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

not that the buyer of the kit should have any worries besides the obvious normal precautions, but wouldn't that company have some legal issues to worry about as long as they ship to the US. I mean, it's hard to argue that these spores are solely(sp?) meant to grow the shrooms considering the spores are actually in and easily distributed among a substrate. Hardly believable that a person is going to look at those spores under a microscope.


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: SouthernGent]
    #548868 - 02/12/02 01:32 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

OK...They guarantee that you will get at LEAST a 100 shrooms, in 5 flushes. Not bad at all, considering it costs 100 bucks, I don't see anything wrong with paying a buck per shroom. Especially considering you dont need to sterilerize the shitt outta anything, and all that pretentious crap. But then again...this is MY opinion.


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: Lord_of_Fungus]
    #548912 - 02/12/02 02:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I have used the ez grow kit myself it contains two bags of sterilized rye berries, a big q-tip w/ spores on it (mine was dark purple looked to have lots of spores) 3 pounds of sterlized cow poo and a rubbermade tub w/ small holes in the top of it, also an instruction book w/ pictures in step by step method. you don't have to do sterile work like using pressure cooker but you have to be clean and wear clean clothes, wash hands, general cleanleness. the kit gave me two and a half flushes but only cause half the bag colonized (my fault though) I got about 1 oz and 1 quarter bag of dry shrooms ,not much but considering a quarter bag of shrooms cost 50 bucks where i live and I have the money to blow it was no biggie to me to buy the kit and not have to go through a lot of steps and buy the p. cooker and sterilize all the jars and stuff. the process takes a lot longer than 2 weeks the ad is somewhat misleading there they say it takes two weeks for the spores to colonize the bag fully and then you break up the berries into quarter and dime size pieces an mix into the poo wait a month and then you will see shrooms starting to form, they grow fast after the poo is taken over. it took about 25 days for rye to colonize and about a month after mixing w/ poo to see shrooms.the shrooms werer suppose to be a thiland strain of p. cubensis ( they look just like the picture in H.T.)I had no trouble w/ordering and had it sent straight to my house w/ no hassle it come in a plain white box w/ a little sticker that says homstead book co. it's not illegal to get spores sent to you unless you live in california as far as I know, If you order I would reccomend using credit card and getting ups blue service I did not know they offered rush deliv. and did not have the card then but this will speed up your growing so you don't have to wait so long like I did that was a long 4 weeks all in all the kit is good for beginners or for people who don't want to get into alot of work or good for a girlfriend to get as a gift so she can grow some for you and her. you can replicate the process which is what I'll be doing for a lot less than 108.00 get pre-sterlized rye already in bags at bluethumbs site get poo at dung bros or I found you can get pre-sterlized poo at farmers feed stores for about 3 bucks for 50 pounds and get a rubbermaid container at wal-mart and you got lots of sporevendors here at the shroomery you you can get a syringe from at first and make prints after your first grow and that is basically it hope my post was informitive and answered your questions you can pm me anyone who has questions can pm me(108.00 is a rip off though)


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: joe666]
    #549179 - 02/12/02 06:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

O the ez-rip off kit do it your self you will have a better chance at growing alot more and for half the price Homestead sucks ass


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: joe666]
    #549290 - 02/12/02 08:56 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

holy FUCK take a breath there joe!!!


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: Lord_of_Fungus]
    #550025 - 02/13/02 02:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm, yeah, a buck a shroom. Uh huh, that's not a bad price. Except for considering that good cultivators spend far less than a penny a shroom. And I seriously doubt their guarantee policy if it guarantees 5 flushes.


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: mycofile]
    #550079 - 02/13/02 03:07 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

By scan the article, I think he meant put it on a scanner and post it so we could all see it?


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: mycofile]
    #550247 - 02/13/02 05:22 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

they say you will get anywhere from 10 to 100 shrooms but I don't think they garentee flushes, just that you will get shrooms( I'm sure if you got one shroom that they would say it constitutes you grew shrooms) I like the idea of the ez grow kit ( they should make it cheaperbut, they are just earning a buck) 'cause it's so simple to use and homstead says they will replace everything if your kit fails in the 2nd stage(2 is when you mix colonized rye w/poo) they say if you don't get shrooms to grow in a month or so then they will replace stuff. that's why I took advantage of the offer, I figured what the fuck they say it's gauranteed and I would hold there asses to it ( cause if they fucked w/ me I would call the BBB, post it all over the net, pay hackers to fuck shit up etc. etc... plus like I said in my earlier post shrooms cost 50 bucks a quarter where I live and in the past year I've been back in the trippin scene I've only been able to find 2 hits of liquid and I haven't found any shrooms to buy( that's what I get for dropping out of the scene for a couple of years) I had to grow my own so my gf and I could trip( she was hooked after trying the acid and doing ecstasy all the time) the flush I got was not much but, I did get more than I would have if I paid for them. plus I now know how to replicate the process and it should only cost me 30 bucks or less.


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: joe666]
    #550620 - 02/13/02 11:59 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Forget it, dude! At the beginning I tried going the kit route (see my post on the vendors forum--"Vendors--pls don't link to Mushroom Magic) and it was one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made--a huge waste of money. Any kit seller that makes claims or guarantees is obviously a scam--Mother Nature doesn't make guarantees, and by growing anything (be it shrooms or daffodils) you're basically entering into a chess match with Mother Nature herself. Unfortunately, kit sellers exploit modern consumers' desire for quick fixes and easy solutions. You won't be paying $1 dollar a shroom, you'll be paying $108 for NOTHING.

PF/MMGG tek is the only way to go for beginners. It takes a bit of elbow grease, but you WILL have something to show for it. If you're too lazy or don't have time to assemble all the materials yourself, Dr. Bluethumbs has a PF Tek beginners kit for about 70 bucks (including S&H and two spore syringes of your choice!!! How can you beat that price?) that will give you everything you need to get started, so you don't have to go running around for the stuff. If even THAT is too much trouble for you, look into the Myco Ecology Bags available at Sporeworks/Mycelium Fruits. You get four bags for $50, all you need to do is get a syringe, sterilize the needle, inoculate, and wait. The method works (there are pics on this forum) although it's a bit expensive and doesn't give huge yields. Still, there is no PROVEN method that is easier to use. The Homestead kit isn't proven--if it were, there would be pictures of it on the Shroomery.


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Re: High Times Mushrooms [Re: EchoVortex]
    #550729 - 02/14/02 02:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Take a look at the "Mushrooms pictures" forum....

Lots of people using Hydropods,

Lots of people using PF Tek

Lots of people using Myco bags,

You want a really easy solution? Go with Myco Bags, lil' more expensive, but easy as hell.

Want a nice controlled environment that yeilds that are pretty damn good, Go with Hydropods, a lil' more expensive, but you can't argue with the pics I've seen here on the shroomery..

Now, you want something that is pretty easy to follow, will give you some really good yeilds, for VERY cheap. PF Tek is the way to go. A little more work than all the rest of them (Hell a lot more work). BUT, you can always make more shrooms later, and you get the best yeilds using this tek (IMO). It's dirt cheap. I paid $25 and got 3 spore syringes to start myself off, and I spent maybe $20 on my setup.... Now i don't have to buy anything anymore, and i have an endless supply of shrooms (I make my own spore prints). The cost of growing a lot of nice shrooms is only $5-10 at most... Instead of $110 each time like you are thinking....


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