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life lessons and thoughts u learn on shrooms
    #5480993 - 04/04/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

so i love shrooms. it seems everytime i do shrooms i learn something amazing about myself, the universe or the world. soemtimes, it takes me months later to learn about a certain situation i was in on shrooms, and the more i reflect upon it the more i learn. i also always think about crazy things on shrooms and i learn mysteries too.
some things i've thought about and learned on shrooms:
-i realized i, a human being are apart of the dominion over the world and i feel blessed that out of every single organism god could've made me into, whether it was a lion, a bird, a sea horse, a worm, even bacteria, that i became apart of the doiminon over the world, a human being
-i truly truly realize that nethign in this world is possible, and if u want something bad enough, all u have to do is WORK and it will happen, never give up hope
-out of all the 6 or 7 billion people in the world i could've met, i met my friend lee or jacorey, or laquisha, or treyvon, or brandon, or dominique....i feel privileged i got to meet these people and get to really know them, u know wat i mean?
-i found out that every thing that happens in life in pre-planned(or predestination) and i feel that i can change that if i want to.
- i realized that everyone, no matter who you are, are equal
-everyone in this world is unique in there own way and just because u dont like something about a certain person, live with it because they wont change unless they want to
-someone can control your hands with handcuffs, or your eys with the tv or w/e else, but no one in this world can control your mind
-i have become fascinated with the six senses we have and i love using my senses now

huuhh ne way those are some thoughts


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Re: life lessons and thoughts u learn on shrooms [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5481100 - 04/04/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i am a multicellular organism. A complicated bacteria. The only thing that sets me apart from all other life is the fact that i am a willing participant, aware of this truth.

I am not my body. My body belongs to gaia, humanity, the bioshere w/e. My mind soul or spirit is mine and is the only unique feature.


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Re: life lessons and thoughts u learn on shrooms [Re: pong]
    #5481191 - 04/04/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I found that:

-People who believe "everything happens for a reason" or "everything is pre-planned" possibly have a case of schizophrenia.
-My father is a major realist.(I hardly communicated with my father growing up, or vice versa.)
-Not communicating, in general, while growing up, messed with my head a bit.
-Being a realist means absolutely nothing. Who's to say what is and what isn't?
-America is the worst country in the world. America is the best country in the world.

Much, much more. I've thought about everything pretty much. I'll leave it at that though.. not necissarily life lessons.


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Re: life lessons and thoughts u learn on shrooms [Re: hoboblues]
    #5481300 - 04/05/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

nothing happens for a reason, but there are little hidden messages left in the external world for us to see, given by our own internal conscious... so we kind of make shit up out of shit put in front of us for our own reason
maybe im schiophrenic


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Re: life lessons and thoughts u learn on shrooms [Re: indica]
    #5481561 - 04/05/06 03:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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xk3m_indica said:
nothing happens for a reason, but there are little hidden messages left in the external world for us to see, given by our own internal conscious... so we kind of make shit up out of shit put in front of us for our own reason





You know, maybe you're right.. who knows?

I've had my schizo moments, i've had my ADD moments, i've had my BiPolar moments.. But I don't have either one of those. The way it is these days, everyone has got a damn mental disorder. They take and strip down every personality there is and find something "wrong" with it, so they can sell you some meds... people buy in to this garbage. Parents are absolutely floored when they find their son/daughter isn't doing well in school.. so they believe they need ADD medicine, when in fact what they really needed was some parenting skills.

I'm just rambling now.. but what I said about people who "believe everything happens for a reason" are schizos, is a completely broad/uneducated statement.


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Re: life lessons and thoughts u learn on shrooms [Re: hoboblues]
    #5481707 - 04/05/06 06:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

(Mix of LSD and Mushroom 'things' I've learned)

- My life is a consequence of my actions, I have control of my actions, therefore I am in control of my life.

- Everyone is equals, no one is better than anyone else. Just because I hold someone in greater importance than someone else - doesnt mean that they are 'better'.

- Everyone (including myself) puts up false fronts as a means of self-defence, these fronts at times can be VERY ugly, and not always that nice to be around.

- Helped me realize who my 'true friends' are, and who the 'users' were, who would only be around if THEY needed me, but was never around just to hang out, or when I needed someone.

- In my relationship, I want to be wanted, not needed.

- A big part of life - is to simply live it, and expiernece as wide a range of experiences as possible - the good, the bad, the ups, the downs, the highs, the lows - they are all important parts of the 'human expierence' and we should try and experience them all.

- I'm also starting to find a better sense of my own faith/belife system. I'm still not all organized religion, but feeling as I have a better understanding about my own belifes.

and many, many more.


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5482494 - 04/05/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

that 'u' is a letter..


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: Gomp]
    #5482988 - 04/05/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I like this thread.

I learned there is and equal amount of Good on earth to Evil on earth.

I pictured Heaven on top and Hell on the bottom and both pulling at eachother with equal force and Earth is caught in the middle.

This also made me feel that good trips are a taste of the Good side (heaven in my case), and bad trips are a taste of the Evil side(hell).

And speech that comes out sounding like it is backwards creeped me out, i think thats how satan communicates. :goose:


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: knowhereman]
    #5483052 - 04/05/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome answers, everyone.

Here's a few blurbs that (horribly inadequately) describe some revelations I've had:

--If someone perceives me as 'weird', a 'freak', 'stupid', or whatever, it does not reflect at all on me. Any person who judges you, ultimately, will be thinking about his or her own insecurities at the end of the day, because people who are secure with themselves will not judge you if you deviate from the script of interaction they are expecting.

--Our culture is becoming more and more materialist. The majority of people feel the need to be defined by the things they possess, and are not actually happy with themselves on a spiritual level.

--Setting up things in a list of things you 'like' and 'dislike' is a sickness; I should fight for what I believe in, but should not feel hate or rage toward what I find objectionable.

--People, in their minds, BECOME their physical desires, because they do not want to be their bodies. In fact, they are neither.

--Despite the overwhelming mass of bullshit that is our modern consumerist and militaristic society, you can live a loving and meaningful life by just thinking for yourself, loving those you know, being genuinely friendly and compassionate, and letting useless emotions like rage disappear on an ocean of calm.

I have only briefly glimpsed this one, but I feel it to be true:

--Everything is the All-One. The True Atman is eternal.




Footnote: I did not include here all the specific things I learned about myself, although many of the broader things above definitely applied to me (and some still do, because I am not yet completely free of the unhealthy cravings and emotions of the ego).


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


Edited by Lion (04/05/06 02:00 PM)


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: Lion]
    #5483221 - 04/05/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

nice thoughts. :thumbup:


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: Druginduced]
    #5483454 - 04/05/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i think my experience so far (just once on shrooms) hasnt really taught me anything, but rather reinforced a few things i already knew:

- the world is infinite. there is an unlimited number of things to do, places to go, books to read, books to write, books to burn, books to eat... and sadly, ill never do/see/experience it all. im still trying to get the melancholy that thought inspires out of my system.

- im a jerk and people have every right to hate me.

and thats all that comes to mind. now that i think about it, theyre pretty dark and sad... oh well. im just on the begning of my journey...


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5483471 - 04/05/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

nice thought


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: Druginduced]
    #5484186 - 04/05/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Oh here's another thing i learned:

Television is mind control. so is the government (which uses television for mind control).


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: knowhereman]
    #5484370 - 04/05/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

for the record, just because i belive in predestination to some extent, DOES NOT mean i am a schizo, i am nothing of the like, and to that guy from norway, i know "u"is a word U idiot.

so far im ver facinated with everyones responses and they have made me think even more. i like the idea that our mind and soul are the only unique feature of every person

bug- i've never thought of that judging concept, and the insecurities thing befor, that really fascinated me and i thank you for sharing that

indica-how can u say nothing happens for a reason???

kaniz- i agree, mushies really have helped me realize who my true friends are, and the fake ones too

....some other things i've realized is how priviledged i am to truly "live" and ever since mt first trip, i have a new perspective on life and a new appreciation for it

i've learned the little bad experiences you have everyday should not be dwelled upon, because the next day or week they will mean nothing

i've learned the more time u spend by yourself, the more u learn about yourself. no one is there to influence your thinking, its just your thoughts... i recommend everyone to(if u havent already) take 2 solid hours and put yourself in complete silence, or take a walk in nature and just think, you will be amazaed by the things you think about

mind over matter is absoltely true

yea so those are just maybe 5% of the things i've learned about on mushrooms and everything else i simply cant put in to words, man....i love life and i see myself as a transcendentalist now, searching for truth and the real purpose of why god put me on this earth, i love it absolutely


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"Life lived in the absence of the psychedelic experience that primordial shamanism is based on is life trivialized, life denied, life enslaved to the ego."

"You teach the world how to treat you, by showing the world how you treat yourself."

A well developed sense of humor is far superior to any religion"

"Everything you could want and could be, you already have and are."

:peace: & :heart:


Edited by hoopershroomer (04/05/06 07:56 PM)


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5486479 - 04/06/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ooh ooh i remeber somethign else i learned.

im scared of whats in my head.

i have to clarify that sattement a bit. im not scared of anything. if i even start feeling scared or aprehensive about something, then i intentionally force myself to confront the fear. this works great because its taught me how irrational most fears are. but when i saw the precipice of ego loss... i was scared then. and i couldnt force myself to go over the edge. i think its cuz im such a complicated thinker so my ego loss would really really really hurt.

or in other words, my ego is who i am....

thats an odd thought. that last statement only brings more questions. dangit people, makin me think and crap.


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Edited by rDr4g0n (04/06/06 12:53 PM)


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: rDr4g0n]
    #5487463 - 04/06/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'd say the messages i got from salvia were more recognisable than shrooms, but since this is about shrooms:

-shrooms got me out of a depressed stage which probably pushed me to shrooms in the first place.

-i learned how to connect spirtually with others even while not tripping to help me understand what's going on in their head.

-i've become alot more open to other's views and can see things from their perspective, even if it's anti-drugs/anti-psychedelics

that's it for the time being anyway, can't think of anymore.


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: SapphireCat]
    #5487630 - 04/06/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The biggest thing I realised from shrooms was more just a reminder of how amazing nature and the whole aspect of life was. Although it's given me some interesting insight as to how my brain works


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: Lion]
    #16949236 - 10/01/12 10:53 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I loved your input. It's nice to know I am not the only one who sees the world the way that you do.


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #16949251 - 10/01/12 10:57 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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for the record, just because i belive in predestination to some extent, DOES NOT mean i am a schizo, i am nothing of the like, and to that guy from norway, i know "u"is a word U idiot.




You're so consumed with your ego, you must have learned nothing from your experience.

Not to judge you, but this happens quite often to a few of my friends. I feel bad that they just aren't blessed with the insight, and infinite wisdom of the universe that some of us are offered.


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Re: life lessons and thoughts "you" learn on shrooms [Re: ilikescarrots]
    #16949629 - 10/02/12 12:19 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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hoopershroomer said:
for the record, just because i belive in predestination to some extent, DOES NOT mean i am a schizo, i am nothing of the like, and to that guy from norway, i know "u"is a word U idiot.




You're so consumed with your ego, you must have learned nothing from your experience.

Not to judge you, but this happens quite often to a few of my friends. I feel bad that they just aren't blessed with the insight, and infinite wisdom of the universe that some of us are offered.




One thing of many Ive learnt is to always voice your opinion if it affects you, words and tones should be chosen wisely though, u can still get your point across with out being negative. Its not good for the soul to hold things in or dwell on situations, better out than in but be nice about it. Good Vibes all:smile:


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