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coco coir
    #5478082 - 04/04/06 07:52 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i went to my local garden centre today and they have no coco coir :frown: The nearest that they have to coco coir is "coir compost - made from coconut husks".
would this stuff be any good as a substrate or as a casing. i'm kinda confused because coco coir is used in casing, and compost is sometimes used as a substrate.

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Re: coco coir [Re: outlawimmortal]
    #5478172 - 04/04/06 09:07 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

anyone?

also are the bags of manure that are sold in garden centres good for growing mushrooms on?

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Re: coco coir [Re: outlawimmortal]
    #5478176 - 04/04/06 09:12 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

you'll find all of the answers to your questions here

i also suggest you do a bit more reading.. good luck to ya


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Re: coco coir [Re: K_NIRB]
    #5478204 - 04/04/06 09:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

don't worry i've been doing plenty of bed time reading :smile:. the only thing that is really confusing me is that coco coir is ideally put into casings, and the nearest thing to coco coir i can get is this "coir compost". so can i substitute coco coir for coir compost?

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Re: coco coir [Re: K_NIRB]
    #5478213 - 04/04/06 09:42 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

does over 50 post mean you can be an asshole?


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Re: coco coir [Re: outlawimmortal]
    #5478224 - 04/04/06 09:47 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Is the coir compost a mix of different substrates - not just coco coir? In that case im sure that as long as its sterile and able to retain moisture you should be okay (i could be wrong though, i sure someone with more experince could answer this)


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Re: coco coir [Re: terrorcichlid]
    #5478230 - 04/04/06 09:50 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i hope you aren't referring to my post. the search tool will answer all of his questions son...

there was no need for that post at all.

anyways, from my understanding, coir is a compressed brick form of the coconut fibers... the compost is expanded already...

they are the same material in different packaging.. if you want the coir bricks, you need to look in pet stores in the reptile bedding section. good luck..

btw, i just did a quick search and found al of this info fairly quickly... READ READ READ


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Re: coco coir [Re: terrorcichlid]
    #5478255 - 04/04/06 10:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

from my understanding coco coir is dried husk ground up, And composts from garden stores are composted meaning the nutrients have been broken down (mainly the protein). meaning they very well could be different things. Your post however was unnecessary their is a search button on ever page and if your going to take the time to paste another link you might as well helped a newb to some useful information.


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Re: coco coir [Re: K_NIRB]
    #5478257 - 04/04/06 10:03 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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btw, i just did a quick search and found al of this info fairly quickly... READ READ READ




Post the links!


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Re: coco coir [Re: K_NIRB]
    #5478266 - 04/04/06 10:08 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

cheers everyone. i had done a lot of reading before i asked the question, but its just my luck that the second that i post the question i find the answer. it turns out that the coir compost is another form of coco coir and can be used in the same way.

thanks again :smile:


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Re: coco coir [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5478305 - 04/04/06 10:26 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

ok this got off on the wrong foot....

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outlawimmortal said:
i went to my local garden centre today and they have no coco coir :frown: The nearest that they have to coco coir is "coir compost - made from coconut husks".
would this stuff be any good as a substrate or as a casing. i'm kinda confused because coco coir is used in casing, and compost is sometimes used as a substrate.




i would definately check your garden supply store and read the ingredients, i have seen coco compost that was peat/coir mix and all coir.  either would be fine to use imo. 
i find my bricks of coir at petsmart.  one brick will go a long way.

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outlawimmortal said:also are the bags of manure that are sold in garden centres good for growing mushrooms on?




some people have sucess with growing on store bought manure such as black kow but from my understanding it is not recommended.. the best manure to start out with is horse poo.  there are tons of reasons why, just search for horse poo.  you want the oldest, most weathered stuff you can find.. most of the time, it is free.

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terrorcichlid said:from my understanding coco coir is dried husk ground up, And composts from garden stores are composted meaning the nutrients have been broken down (mainly the protein). meaning they very well could be different things.




if the coco compost you are referring to has nutes in it, you do not want to use it for your casing layer, if it contains no nutes, its fine.


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Re: coco coir [Re: outlawimmortal]
    #5478339 - 04/04/06 10:38 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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the only thing that is really confusing me is that coco coir is ideally put into casings




No. Coco coir is much better suited as a substrate material. It's superior to cow manure and nearly as good as horse. In fact, lots of growers use coir to fluff up their manure or other compost. I do not recommend using coir in a casing layer, although many growers do. In my opinion, the best casing mixture is peat/verm. I'll bet that coir compost would make an excellent substrate.
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