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As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry
    #5478120 - 04/04/06 06:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Last night was an absolutely amazing night. I thought it just might possibly be a good idea to take advantage of Shroomisms' presence and some mind altering drugs.

Well, we did just that. I suggested a that we roll together and Shroomism agreed that that would be nice. We double dosed with 2 of the VW's each and set out to just simply enjoy each others' company and listen to some music. However, Shroomism was not into making the music the focus, even though it did bring us much joy at times. I guess he never had done the mutual headphone deal before and found it strange to be isolated audit orally and yet in synchronicity with auditory input. I proved to him what fun it actually was, and we enjoyed it for a while, but I failed to continue to play the music and we drifted away from it and into deep conversation.

During the conversation, I suggested we each do one small dose of LSD to enhance the opening of the mind even further.

Well, what do suppose we did then..? Yep, we did it. It was without a doubt a VERY good idea. Without the help of of both of these marvelously therapeutic drugs, we never would have been able to so logical and throughly psychoanalyze each other. I'll try to encapsulate the outcome without going through the entire process we used to get there.

Our mutual diagnoses of me is, in a nutshell, is that I am an egocentrical maniac. Evidenced by my way of being totally blind to anyone else's' viewpoint of the things I just blatantly say without ever analyzing them from anyone else's' point of view.
So blind to it that I defend it when it's pointed out right to my face, without even realizing that it's undeniably and painfully obvious, there in plain sight. WOW! I got it BAD. What an incredible realization! Now I know what I need to work is to deflate my ego somewhat and analyze my thoughts and feelings from all angles before voicing them.

Our mutual diagnosis of Shroomism was also very accurate, but my new-found desire to analyze my thoughts before saying them prevents me from discussing Shroomisms' diagnosis results with you in detail. Suffice it to say that nobody's perfect and that only he may be allowed to elaborate.

I hope that with our continued mutual support for each other we can help each-other overcome our psychological defects and improve each-others' lives.

I'd like you guys to please give me your opinion on our diagnosis of me (based on recent events here in this forum) and how I can be helped to overcome my deficiency, if you agree, that is, and if you don't agree with the diagnosis then please provide your own input on what you think may be wrong with me.

The good news is that there are appropriate ways to use the egocentricism in an extroverted and humorous fashion, for example, the way Jay Leno does it. He has it too, it's quite obvious to me, but he gets away with it and has many fans and people who adore him because of his ability to use it to his advantage without anyone questioning his integrity.

I don't even begin to expect that I'd be able to pull off a talent like that except in a very socially accepting atmosphere during a time of mutual understanding of my entire intent and a way for the "audience" to be assured of my integrity without question and even then, I have my doubts, so, maybe I'll dabble with it in the right venue, but in the meantime I need to work on reducing the mania and removing my egocentric blinders.

Go ahead, lay it on me.


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478139 - 04/04/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I don't like you
I feel you are manipulative, immature and a threat to innocent members here
You lack something inside that seems to make you seek out attention and approval form a crowd that is twenty years younger than you on average, young and impressionable.

yet you constantly make posts about unsafe and irresponsible(IMHO) drug use.

you need to find acceptance within yourself not from a bunch of people on a message board.

I'm being honest, you asked for it and this is not a flame and I'll drop the subject here, in this thread.

as for Shroomism, lets say there are a lot of eyes on you, don't fuck up


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
    #5478182 - 04/04/06 07:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well, my only well thought out response to that can be that Shroomism is a great judge of character, as we all know, and I have been accepted by him as a true friend.

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Shroomism said:
I completely forgive you. We all make mistakes.. god knows I do. The point is to learn from our mistakes, and move on with more wisdom and grow spiritually... and that, my friend.. is love and evolution.

:heart:






So I guess we have to decide who's in a more appropriate position to judge me, since you feel you must, and who's analysis is likely to be the more accurate one. Shroomism honestly likes me very much and I've been made to understand that by his words and actions. I suggest you ask him why that's true.

Unless you're too closed-minded to accept the possibility that you could be wrong about me.


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478197 - 04/04/06 07:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I have not, and never will be wrong


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
    #5478215 - 04/04/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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goobler said:
I have not, and never will be wrong




Well, you just managed to sink yourself in just one grammatically incorrect sentence.

It should have read, "I have not been and never will be wrong."

Quote:

Shroomism said:
I completely forgive you. We all make mistakes..




Whom is the wiser, I wonder?

EDIT* Changed "who" to "whom" to correct my own grammatical error. We all do make mistakes sometimes.


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Edited by TripMeister (04/04/06 07:52 AM)


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478250 - 04/04/06 07:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

'been' is implied

but this isn't a flame fest...you asked for opinions, I gave mine

opinions are like assholes anyhow


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
    #5478270 - 04/04/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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'been' is implied

but this isn't a flame fest...you asked for opinions, I gave mine

opinions are like assholes anyhow




Nope, not a flame fest at all, but you also failed to realize that it's grammatically incorrect to use a comma before the word "and", so there's your second mistake already.

As for opinions being like assholes, yes, everyone's got one, but some are improperly shaped.


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478281 - 04/04/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yes and some could fit a battleship in them


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
    #5478301 - 04/04/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Still others can't even admit that theirs' may need reshaping.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478314 - 04/04/06 08:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Still others can't even admit that theirs' may need reshaping.




man, that was really really gay to say

seriously

/covers ass and walks away backwards


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
    #5478338 - 04/04/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

TripMeister said:
Still others can't even admit that theirs' may need reshaping.




man, that was really really gay to say

seriously

/covers ass and walks away backwards




Man, I was talking about opinions, the whole time. Just how ignorant are you, really?


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478378 - 04/04/06 08:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ok, this is turning into a flame thread...

tripmeister, you asked people to give their opinions about you and already one person has given their opinion about you..you got pissed off with what they said...but please keep in mind, YOU had asked for it.

either this thread gets deleted or remains..which one do you want?


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: boO]
    #5478386 - 04/04/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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tripmeister, you asked people to give their opinions about you and already one person has given their opinion about you..you got pissed off with what they said...but please keep in mind, YOU had asked for it.





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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478411 - 04/04/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, you two are not being productive.

First off, TM you asked for opinions, Goobler gave his, it is his opinion and thats what you asked for, you must have known that some peoples opinions of you and of your situation are not flattering.  I understand your desire to defend yourself, however, this defense will only feed the ego and behaviours that you are trying to dimminish.  I sugggest not responding and just listening openly to what people have to say, take it all into account, think of the other view points.

With that said, I think this revelation, may be useful to you, but only if you truly want to change.  I also think that this self-analysis is fairly accurate.

In my opinion and please do not take offense, I'm only telling you because you asked, I believe that you are a genuinely caring person, who is generous, however your acts of kindness are overshadowed by your braggery, which causes people to question your motives.  Sometimes we need to learn to do things, just because we want to, not because we want recognition, and even if that is not your conscious intent, it is they way the things you do and say come across.

I agree with goobler, your drug use is irresponsible, or perhaps its not the use itself, but the way you post about it.  I understand its your own choice, your life, but at the same time, impressionable and possibly stupid people may read it and mimic your behaviour, we can never be too careful, that said, you are not the only person here that posts about drugs irresponsibly, but you do make the bigger deal out of it when someone says it may  not be a good idea.

however, other then the above mentioned "defects" I think that at heart you do have the best intentions and generally just want to enjoy life and see to it that others do as well.

Good luck in your future learning :heart:


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: boO]
    #5478416 - 04/04/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Please let it remain. So far we've only heard one person's opinion of what's wrong with me, a person with so much hate and closed-mindedness that he began its description with "I don't like you" and ever since, in as nice a way as possible I've shown him to be discredited and gave him every chance to admit that he MAY BE INCORRECT.

Again, please let this run and I'll keep it as flame-free as possible on my end from now on, but I feel that what I said in my last reply to goobler was fair to say as it so obvious that he is being ignortant and also trying desperately to derail this thread.

Please don't let him do that anymore, but let this thread continue so that we can get some more input and turn it around into the productive thread it's supposed to be.

Thank you, boO. :peace:


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478417 - 04/04/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Our mutual diagnoses of me is, in a nutshell, is that I am an egocentrical maniac. Evidenced by my way of being totally blind to anyone else's' viewpoint of the things I just blatantly say without ever analyzing them from anyone else's' point of view.
So blind to it that I defend it when it's pointed out right to my face, without even realizing that it's undeniably and painfully obvious, there in plain sight. WOW! I got it BAD. What an incredible realization! Now I know what I need to work is to deflate my ego somewhat and analyze my thoughts and feelings from all angles before voicing them.



now I don't have a personal opinion on you because I haven't read much of your posts and don't know you.

What I'm glad about is that you had such insight in yourself and your own behaviour after that night. Be aware of if that all what you said has become part of your personality, habits and behaviors and you will probably need to work REALLY HARD ot really change it. It is possible but it will take a lot of effort, frustrations etc. Embrace this as a valuable learning experiance and grab this chance to change that what you found in ALL aspects of your life. Maybe it's a good idea to lay off drugs for a while and work on this change with a clear state of mind so that you don't lose your focus on this, because you will need it!
Good luck :thumbup:


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478422 - 04/04/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

My honest opinion?
You're longwinded.

I'm guessing you type like you talk and sometimes brevity is nice. Like this.

1) Revelations can be made without the help/hindrance of drugs.
2) You care about people
3) You're too proud

Talking over people, telling them you're listening, isn't quite listening at all.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478454 - 04/04/06 09:21 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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TripMeister said:


Again, please let this run and I'll keep it as flame-free as possible on my end from now on, but I feel that what I said in my last reply to goobler was fair to say as it so obvious that he is being ignortant and also trying desperately to derail this thread.

Please don't let him do that anymore, but let this thread continue so that we can get some more input and turn it around into the productive thread it's supposed to be.






TM-

I am being honest and nice, I don't like you. There I said it again...

that being said can't you see that the interaction between you and I in this thread is the that same actions you are trying to avoid?

come on now, you need to sit back as others here have stated and just listen.

unless you made this thread to once again talk about yourself, just listen.

You will get all sorts of answers and range of opinion if you don't poison your own thread with your responses. Sure I can be the ass here, but thats evident. You pointing it out is unnecessary and counterproductive to what you seek. Life is all a game


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: blink]
    #5478455 - 04/04/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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blinkidiot said:


Talking over people, telling them you're listening, isn't quite listening at all.




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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478490 - 04/04/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think you just need to shut up and listen to these people. You asked for it, you should be ready to deal with it.



On another note, if you feel like being such a grammar nazi...
Quote:

TripMeister said:

Whom is the wiser, I wonder?

EDIT* Changed "who" to "whom" to correct my own grammatical error. We all do make mistakes sometimes.




I'm pretty sure the use of whom is incorrect.

A tip for TripMeister:

http://www.getitwriteonline.com/archive/062802.htm

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Here is the four-step trick for getting these words straight every time:

Step 1: Isolate the clause containing the "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)." (Sentences that ask questions can have only one clause.)




The part in parentheses applies here.

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Step 2: Ignore the part of the sentence that is NOT in the "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)" clause.




In other words ignore "I wonder?" Oh ja, technically any sentence that ends with I wonder should be a statement, not a question.

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Step 3: In place of the word "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)," plug in the words "he" or "him" and see which one sounds better. (Sorry, ladies; we can't use "she" and "her" because "her" doesn't end with an "m," and the trick won't work!)




"He" is the wiser.
"Him" is the wiser.


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Step 4: If "he" sounds better, then choose "who(ever)." If "him" sounds better, then choose "whom(ever)." Remember that the "m" words ("him" and "whom") go together.




Self-explanatory.


BTW, no flame intended.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478499 - 04/04/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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goobler said:
Quote:

TripMeister said:
Again, please let this run and I'll keep it as flame-free as possible on my end from now on, but I feel that what I said in my last reply to goobler was fair to say as it so obvious that he is being ignortant and also trying desperately to derail this thread.

Please don't let him do that anymore, but let this thread continue so that we can get some more input and turn it around into the productive thread it's supposed to be.






TM-

I am being  honest and nice, I don't like you.  There I said it again...

that being said can't you see that the interaction between you and I in this thread is the that same actions you are trying to avoid?

come on now,  you need to sit back as others here have stated and just listen

unless you made this thread to once again talk about yourself, just listen.

You will get all sorts of answers and range of opinion if you don't poison your own thread with your responses.  Sure I can be the ass here, but thats evident.  You pointing it out is unnecessary and counterproductive to what you seek.  Life is all a game




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Not what you're gonna want to hear, TripMeister, but...

I don't know either of you at all. And I consider myself a good judge of character. I only judge others by their actions. There is no such thing as an "action" on a messageboard... but there is "reaction" to incoming data, as opposed to speaking from the heart, which is not reactive, but pure and/or creative.

TripMeister, when you speak from the heart, you know what you want... and this is why some posters see that you have genuine intent behind your clouds of thought. I believe you are a victim of your own mind, as so many of us are in our own ways.

But when you respond to others' opinions, you seem to get caught up in a torrent of thought with your response. It seems like you need to learn to seperate emotion from intellect. Sometimes it is necessary to realize your collective opinions are just imaginary building blocks, and that they are not really a part of who you are.

There is no need to defend opinion... especially when you are asking for it for the sake of self-improvement. --Remember, that is why I've posted everything I've said here. Realize that there is no need for rebuttal.

Instead of rebutting, reflect. Compare. Contrast. Try to look at yourself from the outside point of view... take what you know about yourself, and depersonalize it... let it go. You have to let it go, and view "what makes you, you" from a perspective that is not attached to it.

If you can do this, you can compare it side by side with others' expressions of you, and truly see an unbiased comparison.

This is my opinion based upon my own struggles with self-understanding.

And it's also a little loopy, because I wrote it stoned.  :stoned: I wish you the best...  :heart:


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: WoodsCall]
    #5478503 - 04/04/06 09:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Cool.


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #5478548 - 04/04/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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TripMeister, when you speak from the heart, you know what you want... and this is why some posters see that you have genuine intent behind your clouds of thought. I believe you are a victim of your own mind, as so many of us are in our own ways.

But when you respond to others' opinions, you seem to get caught up in a torrent of thought with your response. It seems like you need to learn to seperate emotion from intellect. Sometimes it is necessary to realize your collective opinions are just imaginary building blocks, and that they are not really a part of who you are.

There is no need to defend opinion... especially when you are asking for it for the sake of self-improvement. --Remember, that is why I've posted everything I've said here. Realize that there is no need for rebuttal.

Instead of rebutting, reflect. Compare. Contrast. Try to look at yourself from the outside point of view... take what you know about yourself, and depersonalize it... let it go. You have to let it go, and view "what makes you, you" from a perspective that is not attached to it.

If you can do this, you can compare it side by side with others' expressions of you, and truly see an unbiased comparison.


This is my opinion based upon my own struggles with self-understanding.

And it's also a little loopy, because I wrote it stoned.  :stoned: I wish you the best...  :heart:




This is utterly, amazingly great advice, as I have been doing EXACTLY that and I know the post that matches me identically with an unbiased comparisson. It made me cry to see that someone could actually know me the way I now know myself.

Please keep these comming, my trusted onlookers, I am listening with a completely open mind.


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: WoodsCall]
    #5478629 - 04/04/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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On another note, if you feel like being such a grammar nazi...
Quote:

TripMeister said:

Whom is the wiser, I wonder?

EDIT* Changed "who" to "whom" to correct my own grammatical error. We all do make mistakes sometimes.




I'm pretty sure the use of whom is incorrect.





Correct..."whom" only follows prepositions. To whom are you speaking? For whom the bell tolls.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478648 - 04/04/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I guess Jaques understands the meaning of the word "human" pretty well, something we all are, even when we seem not aware. It's a well written lesson for anyone to read and understand. You were on the right track ... an advice, realize your own imperfections first, then criticize ...

On the other hand, try reading about the Oxford comma :wink: ...

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5478660 - 04/04/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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For whom the bell tolls.




Time marches on .... :rockon:

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478816 - 04/04/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think you are arrogant, pompous, and a terrible listener. I remember once we were in an argument about a scientific fact and myself and others posted links to data that was undeniable, yet you wouldn't concede you were wrong. This is indicative of a larger trend.

You are a braggart, and I think you are someone who hasn't come to terms with their own middle-age. Your posts smack of a desire to be younger, to be with younger women (in their teens), and I think we all can see it.

You cannot take even the most appropriately worded constructive criticism, as it clearly pains you to be wrong. Which in many cases you are. One of your major arguments in any disagreement is that you're 46, like that fact automatically makes you correct or smarter than anyone else.

Please don't construe this as a flame, but I feel that you have the emotional maturity of a 13 year old. You're unable to deal with any form of criticism, and if this was real life, I think you'd be stomping back to your bedroom and slamming the door.

I find your arrogance extremely off-putting, and your willingness to accept the views of others is nil. I have met 16 year olds who are more mature than you.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5478876 - 04/04/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I can see your views perfectly from where I sit now. As I said, I was totally blinded by an egocentrical mania which I am working feverishly to overcome.

Your post was harsh, but honest and accurate. That was me, yes, it was. Hopefully, that guy will fade away and be replaced by someone much better.

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478893 - 04/04/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm thrilled that you're finally seeing what many of us have been saying to you for a while now.  I believe you have potential to be a super cool and fun guy, and I applaud you for this first step you've taken.  I really hope to see a change in your mannerisms, as I know that there's a really great guy somewhere in there.  Best of luck to you.  :heart:


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5478900 - 04/04/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you tree huggin gookoos.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5478928 - 04/04/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Another tear-jerker!

:heart: Thank you!

I've been crying off and on for the past 6 hours and previously, when my revelation of what I had done to Shroomism became visible. This is all so overwhelming.

During the start of the analysis, when I first realized what I had done, I was so totally ashamed and distrought that I was beside myself with greif. Shroomism got up from the couch, walked to my chair, leaned down and said "give me a hug."

I cried then, and I'm crying now.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478972 - 04/04/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Our mutual diagnoses of me is, in a nutshell, is that I am an egocentrical maniac. Evidenced by my way of being totally blind to anyone else's' viewpoint of the things I just blatantly say without ever analyzing them from anyone else's' point of view.
So blind to it that I defend it when it's pointed out right to my face, without even realizing that it's undeniably and painfully obvious, there in plain sight.




tm, i don't keep up with who you're on bad terms with and why. i'm sure i also don't see all the little spats you get into. however, when i do see a flamefest that you're involved in, it usually seems to be because somebody has said something along the lines of what i quoted above.

....just something to think about and watch for.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5478997 - 04/04/06 12:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

just a question....

do you attribute any of this 'revelation' and sadness to after glow of the chemicals you just took?


give it a sober week or two, then I'll believe.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
    #5479035 - 04/04/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Okay, you're entitled to your week or two, if that's what it takes. But in answer to your question, I can tell you as well as Shroomism can tell you that this is truly a breakthrough, not the afterglow.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5479063 - 04/04/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I hope so.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5479074 - 04/04/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm glad you and shroomism talked and that you realize what people were talking about in regards to your original post.

I pretty much already stated my opinion in that, so I don't feel like I need to retype it all now.  Others have already summed it up nicely already.  Also, please don't attack people who give their opinion or try to argue what they say.  You asked for this, and I'm glad that you did - but you need to be willing to listen and accept that all of the posts aren ot going to be forgiving in nature and cheerful.  I don't think Goobler was trying to derail your thread or flame you, any more than I was trying to derail your original thread. 

I've maintained all along that you probably mean well and you're harmless - you just have some serious underlying issues, and I hope that you can work on them and conquer them in time.  Shroomism no doubt will be a great help.  But as goobler mentioned, give it some time sober as well, and reflect with a clear head on all of this information and realization that you've been bombarded with lately.

I honestly was not trying to be excessively rude or hurtful with my posts in your original thread.  It was expressed to me how much it upset you, and while that wasn't my direct intent, I feel like you needed to hear what I said.  It wouldn't have meant anything from someone who you didn't like, or from someone who you knew disliked you. 

My biggest concern is that while people can always change for the better if they want to, you're older and more set in your ways and habits.  I hope you can manage to look at yourself from an outside point of view, get rid of some of the negativity, compulsiveness, and ego, and once that is stripped away, I'm sure everyone will see an awesome guy in front of them. 

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    #5479077 - 04/04/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: blink]
    #5479112 - 04/04/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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goobler said:
just a question....

do you attribute any of this 'revelation' and sadness to after glow of the chemicals you just took?


give it a sober week or two, then I'll believe.




fo sho  :thumbup: :thumbup:




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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5479136 - 04/04/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I guess sitting around eating a bunch of drugs can be seen as "helping" shroomism. I must have had other ideas in mind though...


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TheDude]
    #5479415 - 04/04/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Patience, my doubtful friend. I'll wait for Shroomism himself to address the question of whether or not what we did was appropriate and positive or wrong and destructful, if he so chooses. My view is already clear.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5479449 - 04/04/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I feel like we are in a very bad episode of Kung-Fu


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
    #5479597 - 04/04/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

TM is a megalomaniac sociopath.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: Shroomism]
    #5479905 - 04/04/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Shroomism, my trusted and beloved friend, it seems obvious that we each have made progress from the events of last night, productive time spent to say the very least. Your post was eloquently put, heartfelt and showed no sign of over-analyzing or filtering that would have prevented your full conveyance of your true thoughts and feelings. They came shining through in an impeccable fashion.

I'm so grateful for the help you provided in my head-shrinking, mind expanding, self-exploration and healing session. I couldn't have accomplished it without you.

When we make these kinds of strides in getting your life back on an even keel as you desire it to be, we'll be quite blessed with good fortune and good karma. Well, actually, we are already well covered there. Just expect further "boost".

Words can't possibly express how happy I am that you're here and for so many unexpectedly growing, positive reasons... It seems that fate must truly be shining upon us.

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5480117 - 04/04/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It makes me happy to hear that you made some insights that will ultimately proove to be very beneficial to your existence. In the days after a trip, if you wish to maintain your new found awareness, it is important to watch your actions and listen to your thoughts. If you're like most people you'll gradually sink back into old habbits. Self-awareness is key.

I cannot stress how important meditation has become to me, I reccomend it to everyone. Check out the P&S forum for threads on meditation and self-awarenss, there is some gold in there.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: Cherk]
    #5480216 - 04/04/06 07:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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If you're like most people




From what I learned last night, that is very subjective and difficult question. At this point, I'd have to say, "no, I don't think so, but I hope to grow to be so". Which can be a strong advantage in a case like this.

Thanks for your kindness and support.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5480288 - 04/04/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

TM,

I'm glad you had a good experience. A wise man recently told me that people who Are trapped within the ego can only escape when things are really bad or when things are really good. It seems your really good experience has given you a glimpse of the outside. For this I am grateful. I have been praying for you.

In order to advance beyond the this initial stage of perceiving the true reality, you need to start living for others. You need to see others as equally as important as yourself (better to err on the side of more important than self). It seems to me that you helping Shroomism may be your beginning of living for others.  :smile:

You must never forget however that you have a tendency to incorrectly believe that you are more important than other people (It's a common problem). Never forget that in the end (death) self will be no more. What will continue is that part which is connected to the other.

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: shroomydan]
    #5480412 - 04/04/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Food for thought and more tears shed.

I love you too, bro, as I do this entire community. :heart:


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5480522 - 04/04/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Can I pretend to be a wayward Shroomerite and come up to your place so you can feed me E?  :smirk:  Just kidding.


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    #5480804 - 04/04/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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    #5482539 - 04/05/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Im willing to bet that Shroomism helps you out just as much as you will help him out



So we see that sometimes the son teaches the father.

To quote a great philosopher of my age, "Knowing is half the battle".

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5483054 - 04/05/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You'v got to understand that the insights you had under the influence were real... but that mdma is not a cure all.
People have so many insights on this substance, only to later forget about them, and say "wow, i said some crazy shit"
You have to remember. Continue to think, and talk about these things while you are sober. Try to apply the lessons to everday life.

Somebody once said something to the effect of
"mushrooms can take you to the mountaintop, but to really have acomplished anything, you must learn how to get back on foot"

the same can be applied to this situation.


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    #5483115 - 04/05/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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You'v got to understand that the insights you had under the influence were real... but that mdma is not a cure all.
People have so many insights on this substance, only to later forget about them, and say "wow, i said some crazy shit"
You have to remember. Continue to think, and talk about these things while you are sober. Try to apply the lessons to everday life.





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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: blink]
    #5483269 - 04/05/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The way I've been feeling, even now that I've had 16 hours of nearly uninterrupted sleep, is a complete shrunkenness of ego and a weight off my shoulders that's been there for years. I don't see how I could let myself lose this wonderful feeling of love, understanding and clear sight of right and wrong as applies to expression to and perception by others. I now realize how much others are just as real as I am and have all of the same feelings and emotions as well. My peers are my equals and nobody is superior to anyone else on a human level. I also realize that knowledge of fact does not constitute intelligence.

I'm overwhelmed by all of this and feel emotionally renewed as well. I love myself a bit more also, which was more difficult with that huge "tumor" in my mind that has now disappeared.

I realize that you guys are concerned about my miraculous overnight change being a nearly impossible, or should I say, improbable thing to have happen or be permanent without constant work and maintenance. I know that I will have to watch my progress carefully and make sure that the change does not revert back.

Please let me quote Shroomism, just to reminded you that this is a much deeper situation than a simple "Oh, I get it now"...

Quote:

Shroomism said:
I've seen breakthroughs before.. but damn. What I witnessed last night was a complete reworking of the psyche laid out in front of my eyes. He poured his heart out to me and then some.. digging deep. I did the best I could to help him along.




I honestly feel like a new person with abilities and understanding of love far beyond those of the old TripMeister. I feel like that psychological exploration and adventure may have been equivalent to many years of professional psychoanalysis, the end result being even better, possibly.

As most of you said, and I did listen, "only time will tell".


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5483739 - 04/05/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm very happy for you, and look forward to having positive interactions with you on the boards.  :cool:


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    #5483807 - 04/05/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:laugh: :cool: :heart:


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5484822 - 04/05/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Congratulations, Sir. :smile:


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5486624 - 04/06/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

As someone already mentioned meditation can be of great value to some people on the psychedelic path. While we are having these revelations and life shattering experiences we come into contact with energy's and wisdom that were out of reach before. The problem is even though these experiences do "change" our lives by what is seen for some of us that isn't enough. We need to integrate this wisdom and energy into our everyday life to live out the fullest potential of that pureness glimpsed while high. Meditation and yoga are great for this. There are many different types of meditation and some of us consider anything that improves focus and lifts the veil meditation. Hell I consider playing a musical instrument a sort of meditation. Find something that you can incorporate into your day to day life that lets you gently retouch that pure place inside if only for a moment.

Some people don't need this kind of thing, but I do as do alot of my friends.
It wasn't until I made the commitment and gained the discipline of meditation that I really started to milk the psychedelic experience for all it was worth.
I started to grow alot more. Instead of getting high and being beautiful until the afterglow wore off and my ego regained control, I started to actually live closer to the heart. :heart: I also found I didn't need to trip near as often.
Just my experience though, thought it may be worth sharing.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: chinacat72]
    #5486824 - 04/06/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well worth sharing, as always. So much food for thought from a true master of psychedelic understanding.

I thank you for all you have provided above and I will strive to achieve the goal of living as close to the heart as I possibly can.

Much Love, brother. :heart: :sun:


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5498193 - 04/09/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Personally I think you can be very close minded at times, and generally dislike you.

Now, I don't know you in person so I will not so anything absolute, but I have seen times in your posts where you are unreasonable, irrelevant, unresponsible, and just dumb. And I am really sick of your real need for attention, exampled being the countless posts you create whenever you decide to take ecstacy, lsd, or what have you.

On a side note, I feel this thread is just you feigning your innocence and trying to make people change opinion about you, as well as getting yourself attention. You sound phony as hell.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5498210 - 04/09/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

TM said:

I thank you for all you have provided above and I will strive to achieve the goal of living as close to the heart as I possibly can.

Much Love, brother. :heart: :sun:




Give me a fucking break, brother


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: Freeker]
    #5498222 - 04/09/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

All of that and more has already been covered. Why repeat it?


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5498236 - 04/09/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Because as you have weaknesses I do as well, and at the moment my weakness has been WoW which my friends have gotten me into. Along with this weakness comes another flaw, impatience. While posting on this site and playing the game at the same time, I make any attempt to salvage time. Therefore, I skip pages on threads, I make a grammatical error here and there, you know.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: Freeker]
    #5498243 - 04/09/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Whatever.


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
    #5498247 - 04/09/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Seriously though, what kind of ass makes a thread to apologize, and then spends the first few replies chastizing people for spelling and grammatical errors.

"Whatever"


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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: Freeker]
    #5498259 - 04/09/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The kind who has a mania, as was also covered. kthnxbye.


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    #5509536 - 04/12/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: poke smot!]
    #5509623 - 04/12/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"means really caring what others think of you, in which case you may try to be a people pleaser. I might be way off on that one though."

Nope. You're right on the money! I'd be the first to admit that. I do indeed feel a desire to make people happy and in turn have them like me better for it, though sometimes, I do try too hard. Until the breakthrough, I was blind to the fact that even though my intentions were always genuine, I was projecting a self-centered attitude.

The trip with Shroomism was indeed an uncommonly successful psychological examination and discovery of a root problem in my behavior. LSD is a truly miraculous drug. I had no intentions or expectations when that night began. I simply though that he and I would have some fun with music and drugs. I was very pleased with the outcome, though.

I hope that you can someday experience the deep mental exploration and realization that I did, if you feel you really need it.

I've yet to experience a Shroomery gathering, but somehow I doubt that that's the kind of atmosphere where such a deep examination can be realized, however, with LSD and the right social input, I guess anything is possible.

Thanks for taking the time to absorb this thread and for putting a positive addition on it. I hope to meet you some day.


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