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As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry
#5478120 - 04/04/06 06:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Last night was an absolutely amazing night. I thought it just might possibly be a good idea to take advantage of Shroomisms' presence and some mind altering drugs.
Well, we did just that. I suggested a that we roll together and Shroomism agreed that that would be nice. We double dosed with 2 of the VW's each and set out to just simply enjoy each others' company and listen to some music. However, Shroomism was not into making the music the focus, even though it did bring us much joy at times. I guess he never had done the mutual headphone deal before and found it strange to be isolated audit orally and yet in synchronicity with auditory input. I proved to him what fun it actually was, and we enjoyed it for a while, but I failed to continue to play the music and we drifted away from it and into deep conversation.
During the conversation, I suggested we each do one small dose of LSD to enhance the opening of the mind even further.
Well, what do suppose we did then..? Yep, we did it. It was without a doubt a VERY good idea. Without the help of of both of these marvelously therapeutic drugs, we never would have been able to so logical and throughly psychoanalyze each other. I'll try to encapsulate the outcome without going through the entire process we used to get there.
Our mutual diagnoses of me is, in a nutshell, is that I am an egocentrical maniac. Evidenced by my way of being totally blind to anyone else's' viewpoint of the things I just blatantly say without ever analyzing them from anyone else's' point of view. So blind to it that I defend it when it's pointed out right to my face, without even realizing that it's undeniably and painfully obvious, there in plain sight. WOW! I got it BAD. What an incredible realization! Now I know what I need to work is to deflate my ego somewhat and analyze my thoughts and feelings from all angles before voicing them.
Our mutual diagnosis of Shroomism was also very accurate, but my new-found desire to analyze my thoughts before saying them prevents me from discussing Shroomisms' diagnosis results with you in detail. Suffice it to say that nobody's perfect and that only he may be allowed to elaborate.
I hope that with our continued mutual support for each other we can help each-other overcome our psychological defects and improve each-others' lives.
I'd like you guys to please give me your opinion on our diagnosis of me (based on recent events here in this forum) and how I can be helped to overcome my deficiency, if you agree, that is, and if you don't agree with the diagnosis then please provide your own input on what you think may be wrong with me.
The good news is that there are appropriate ways to use the egocentricism in an extroverted and humorous fashion, for example, the way Jay Leno does it. He has it too, it's quite obvious to me, but he gets away with it and has many fans and people who adore him because of his ability to use it to his advantage without anyone questioning his integrity.
I don't even begin to expect that I'd be able to pull off a talent like that except in a very socially accepting atmosphere during a time of mutual understanding of my entire intent and a way for the "audience" to be assured of my integrity without question and even then, I have my doubts, so, maybe I'll dabble with it in the right venue, but in the meantime I need to work on reducing the mania and removing my egocentric blinders.
Go ahead, lay it on me.
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478139 - 04/04/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't like you I feel you are manipulative, immature and a threat to innocent members here You lack something inside that seems to make you seek out attention and approval form a crowd that is twenty years younger than you on average, young and impressionable.
yet you constantly make posts about unsafe and irresponsible(IMHO) drug use.
you need to find acceptance within yourself not from a bunch of people on a message board.
I'm being honest, you asked for it and this is not a flame and I'll drop the subject here, in this thread.
as for Shroomism, lets say there are a lot of eyes on you, don't fuck up
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
#5478182 - 04/04/06 07:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, my only well thought out response to that can be that Shroomism is a great judge of character, as we all know, and I have been accepted by him as a true friend.
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Shroomism said: I completely forgive you. We all make mistakes.. god knows I do. The point is to learn from our mistakes, and move on with more wisdom and grow spiritually... and that, my friend.. is love and evolution.

So I guess we have to decide who's in a more appropriate position to judge me, since you feel you must, and who's analysis is likely to be the more accurate one. Shroomism honestly likes me very much and I've been made to understand that by his words and actions. I suggest you ask him why that's true.
Unless you're too closed-minded to accept the possibility that you could be wrong about me.
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478197 - 04/04/06 07:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have not, and never will be wrong
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
#5478215 - 04/04/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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goobler said: I have not, and never will be wrong
Well, you just managed to sink yourself in just one grammatically incorrect sentence.
It should have read, "I have not been and never will be wrong."
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Shroomism said: I completely forgive you. We all make mistakes..
Whom is the wiser, I wonder?
EDIT* Changed "who" to "whom" to correct my own grammatical error. We all do make mistakes sometimes.
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. TM™
Edited by TripMeister (04/04/06 07:52 AM)
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478250 - 04/04/06 07:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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'been' is implied
but this isn't a flame fest...you asked for opinions, I gave mine
opinions are like assholes anyhow
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
#5478270 - 04/04/06 08:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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goobler said: 'been' is implied
but this isn't a flame fest...you asked for opinions, I gave mine
opinions are like assholes anyhow
Nope, not a flame fest at all, but you also failed to realize that it's grammatically incorrect to use a comma before the word "and", so there's your second mistake already.
As for opinions being like assholes, yes, everyone's got one, but some are improperly shaped.
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478281 - 04/04/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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yes and some could fit a battleship in them
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
#5478301 - 04/04/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Still others can't even admit that theirs' may need reshaping.
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478314 - 04/04/06 08:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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TripMeister said: Still others can't even admit that theirs' may need reshaping.
man, that was really really gay to say
seriously
/covers ass and walks away backwards
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: goobler]
#5478338 - 04/04/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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goobler said:
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TripMeister said: Still others can't even admit that theirs' may need reshaping.
man, that was really really gay to say
seriously
/covers ass and walks away backwards
Man, I was talking about opinions, the whole time. Just how ignorant are you, really?
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478378 - 04/04/06 08:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok, this is turning into a flame thread...
tripmeister, you asked people to give their opinions about you and already one person has given their opinion about you..you got pissed off with what they said...but please keep in mind, YOU had asked for it.
either this thread gets deleted or remains..which one do you want?
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: boO]
#5478386 - 04/04/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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boO said: tripmeister, you asked people to give their opinions about you and already one person has given their opinion about you..you got pissed off with what they said...but please keep in mind, YOU had asked for it.
'tis just what I was thinkin'.
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478411 - 04/04/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok, you two are not being productive.
First off, TM you asked for opinions, Goobler gave his, it is his opinion and thats what you asked for, you must have known that some peoples opinions of you and of your situation are not flattering. I understand your desire to defend yourself, however, this defense will only feed the ego and behaviours that you are trying to dimminish. I sugggest not responding and just listening openly to what people have to say, take it all into account, think of the other view points.
With that said, I think this revelation, may be useful to you, but only if you truly want to change. I also think that this self-analysis is fairly accurate.
In my opinion and please do not take offense, I'm only telling you because you asked, I believe that you are a genuinely caring person, who is generous, however your acts of kindness are overshadowed by your braggery, which causes people to question your motives. Sometimes we need to learn to do things, just because we want to, not because we want recognition, and even if that is not your conscious intent, it is they way the things you do and say come across.
I agree with goobler, your drug use is irresponsible, or perhaps its not the use itself, but the way you post about it. I understand its your own choice, your life, but at the same time, impressionable and possibly stupid people may read it and mimic your behaviour, we can never be too careful, that said, you are not the only person here that posts about drugs irresponsibly, but you do make the bigger deal out of it when someone says it may not be a good idea.
however, other then the above mentioned "defects" I think that at heart you do have the best intentions and generally just want to enjoy life and see to it that others do as well.
Good luck in your future learning
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: boO]
#5478416 - 04/04/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Please let it remain. So far we've only heard one person's opinion of what's wrong with me, a person with so much hate and closed-mindedness that he began its description with "I don't like you" and ever since, in as nice a way as possible I've shown him to be discredited and gave him every chance to admit that he MAY BE INCORRECT.
Again, please let this run and I'll keep it as flame-free as possible on my end from now on, but I feel that what I said in my last reply to goobler was fair to say as it so obvious that he is being ignortant and also trying desperately to derail this thread.
Please don't let him do that anymore, but let this thread continue so that we can get some more input and turn it around into the productive thread it's supposed to be.
Thank you, boO.
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478417 - 04/04/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Our mutual diagnoses of me is, in a nutshell, is that I am an egocentrical maniac. Evidenced by my way of being totally blind to anyone else's' viewpoint of the things I just blatantly say without ever analyzing them from anyone else's' point of view. So blind to it that I defend it when it's pointed out right to my face, without even realizing that it's undeniably and painfully obvious, there in plain sight. WOW! I got it BAD. What an incredible realization! Now I know what I need to work is to deflate my ego somewhat and analyze my thoughts and feelings from all angles before voicing them.
now I don't have a personal opinion on you because I haven't read much of your posts and don't know you.
What I'm glad about is that you had such insight in yourself and your own behaviour after that night. Be aware of if that all what you said has become part of your personality, habits and behaviors and you will probably need to work REALLY HARD ot really change it. It is possible but it will take a lot of effort, frustrations etc. Embrace this as a valuable learning experiance and grab this chance to change that what you found in ALL aspects of your life. Maybe it's a good idea to lay off drugs for a while and work on this change with a clear state of mind so that you don't lose your focus on this, because you will need it! Good luck
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478422 - 04/04/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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My honest opinion? You're longwinded.
I'm guessing you type like you talk and sometimes brevity is nice. Like this.
1) Revelations can be made without the help/hindrance of drugs. 2) You care about people 3) You're too proud
Talking over people, telling them you're listening, isn't quite listening at all.
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478454 - 04/04/06 09:21 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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TripMeister said:
Again, please let this run and I'll keep it as flame-free as possible on my end from now on, but I feel that what I said in my last reply to goobler was fair to say as it so obvious that he is being ignortant and also trying desperately to derail this thread.
Please don't let him do that anymore, but let this thread continue so that we can get some more input and turn it around into the productive thread it's supposed to be.
TM-
I am being honest and nice, I don't like you. There I said it again...
that being said can't you see that the interaction between you and I in this thread is the that same actions you are trying to avoid?
come on now, you need to sit back as others here have stated and just listen.
unless you made this thread to once again talk about yourself, just listen.
You will get all sorts of answers and range of opinion if you don't poison your own thread with your responses. Sure I can be the ass here, but thats evident. You pointing it out is unnecessary and counterproductive to what you seek. Life is all a game
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: blink]
#5478455 - 04/04/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blinkidiot said:
Talking over people, telling them you're listening, isn't quite listening at all.
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Re: As To My Reason For Needing Be Sorry [Re: TM]
#5478490 - 04/04/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think you just need to shut up and listen to these people. You asked for it, you should be ready to deal with it.
On another note, if you feel like being such a grammar nazi...
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TripMeister said:
Whom is the wiser, I wonder?
EDIT* Changed "who" to "whom" to correct my own grammatical error. We all do make mistakes sometimes.
I'm pretty sure the use of whom is incorrect.
A tip for TripMeister:
http://www.getitwriteonline.com/archive/062802.htm
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Here is the four-step trick for getting these words straight every time:
Step 1: Isolate the clause containing the "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)." (Sentences that ask questions can have only one clause.)
The part in parentheses applies here.
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Step 2: Ignore the part of the sentence that is NOT in the "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)" clause.
In other words ignore "I wonder?" Oh ja, technically any sentence that ends with I wonder should be a statement, not a question.
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Step 3: In place of the word "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)," plug in the words "he" or "him" and see which one sounds better. (Sorry, ladies; we can't use "she" and "her" because "her" doesn't end with an "m," and the trick won't work!)
"He" is the wiser. "Him" is the wiser.
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Step 4: If "he" sounds better, then choose "who(ever)." If "him" sounds better, then choose "whom(ever)." Remember that the "m" words ("him" and "whom") go together.
Self-explanatory.
BTW, no flame intended.
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