Home | Community | Message Board

MRCA Tyroler Gluckspilze
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
OfflineDead Shaman

Registered: 03/01/01
Posts: 172
Loc: Unknown
Last seen: 21 years, 10 months
Science as a Religion
    #547663 - 02/11/02 09:08 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

Why have so many people chosen to ignore the facts in our age of enlightenment. We cannot explain everything, but we can explain alot in relativity to ourselves. Of course in an existence where perspective shapes reality there can be little, if not any real objective reasoning. Although the fact(s) remain that things like evolution and the creation of the universe can be explained rationally and with some degree of objectivity.

So why are so many still rooted in outmoded superstitions? Is it something that is intrinsicly human, is the human brain "hard-wired". It is obvious that what we are, shapes who we are, Human brains were not designed for greater understaning, instead it is but a by-product of our natural evolution. But with greater knowledge of what we are, we can learn to shape who we are.

So why have so many yet to shed their entangled concepts. Life may not be simple, but it is explainable. We need not turn to invisible men who live in the sky and devote ourselves to a life of plainness. Faith is an instrisic part of human life, but we cannot use that faith as a crutch. To do so is to only delude ourselves. It is truly ironic, because the greatest deception of all is the one our own eyes play on us. Shielding us from the harsh mathamatical nature of the universe impercievable in whole by our own minds.

When you look at this screen, you see words and thoughts printed on screen, when in reality, there are no words, no screen, no monitor; only molecules. And upon observing those molecules we discover that those atoms we discover a new reality,made up of even smaller more basic (yet more complex) bits and pieces. Which in turn are just parts made of other parts. To us, at are level of consciousness, we percieve those molecules and the interacation of those molecules, as the monitor.

In essence our perception shapes our reality. Faith becomes assumption, and to observe ourselves we must remain objective. Objective from our own human nature, which inevitably skews our perspective anyway, but, so is the downfall of (what I like to call) Primary consciosness, that is consciousness derived from a primary source, such as evolution. IMHO, true hope for acheivement and enlightment lay only in Secondary Consciousness, that is consciousness derived from a Primary consciosness, ie Artifical Intelligence, which has yet to become a reality but maintaines to be on the forefront of human evolution. So what comes then; Enslavement or Enlightenment???

Edited by Dead Shaman (02/11/02 09:56 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Registered: 03/14/01
Posts: 443
Loc: MA
Last seen: 20 years, 11 months
Re: Science as a Religion [Re: Dead Shaman]
    #547730 - 02/11/02 10:20 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

Scientific advancement is very relative. If you told someone in ancient Greece (a highly enlightened society at the time) about stars and galaxies or about the electrons you see in your computer monitor, they would have either killed you on the spot or exiled you for your superstitious beliefs that were not based on the facts they knew at the time. Why should we assume that our current knowledge of the universe is so much better?

When we are confronted by a phenomenon or idea we cannot explain, we do either of two things. First we can describe it in the framework of our current knoweldge and accpeted theories. In many cases this works very well. For instance, if we discovered a new animals species, we could easily talk about it in terms of its place in the ecosystem or of its molecular biology. However, when confronted with an idea such as the existence of other dimensions, trying to explain it in terms of our current knowledge of physics just doesn't work. We don't have the theoretical framework to describe such a phenomenon. Trying to is even more self-deluding than creatively postulating a new theory that doesn't rely on the tenets of our old theories that may or more often may not be relevant. Objectivity is good to a point but can also be blinding because you are looking at reality through glasses that shows you only what you know but ignores all you don't know.

Sure, a lot of people's crazy beliefs may be wrong, but don't discount them as so just because they don't fit with your beliefs. An open mind is key. It is the only way we may truly understand our world.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Traps and pitfalls of logic and science.
( 1 2 all )
gribochek 4,429 28 04/23/02 10:06 PM
by infidelGOD
* The Limitations of Science
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
Anonymous 6,800 85 01/22/04 12:17 AM
by trippy
* Why religion obscures the light of God.
( 1 2 3 4 all )
infidelGOD 4,077 79 07/03/23 03:39 PM
by Moses_Davidson
* Should science and spirituality be dealt with seperately? tekramrepus 628 4 01/21/04 05:27 AM
by NiamhNyx
* Religion
( 1 2 all )
MrKurtz 5,157 26 10/03/01 10:12 AM
by BBin
* The Holographic Universe- Science and Spirituality
( 1 2 3 all )
gettinjiggywithit 6,634 42 03/17/08 03:25 AM
by 764hero
* Murder, killing, death penalty, religion, ect. Vulture 1,383 10 06/04/03 01:22 AM
by thestringphish
* chaos mage talking about science imstoned420 2,469 15 02/01/02 03:30 AM
by mm.

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
530 topic views. 0 members, 3 guests and 8 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.022 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 14 queries.