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Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee)
    #5475746 - 04/03/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, here is my catch-all thread.  :wink:

0) Strange problem I'm having with the growlogs.  When I click on a link to a growlog someone sent me, I get "Access Denied."  Despite this, I seem to have access to the growlogs if I go directly to the growlogs.  Anyone know what's going on?

1) What is this "dunking" I hear about?  It sounds like the cake is immersed in cold water then refrigerated overnight.  Is the purpose to revert the spores back to colonization mode?

2) LC.  Someone posted how to make it (excellent job _OttO_!), but it seems logical that I would have to have caps to get spores before I can pull this off (yes, they call me Sherlock Holmes back home...)  So I guess I'll do this with a couple of caps from my first harvest.    So ...I know that LC is the answer, but what is the question?  Is the purpose to insure mycelium growth before committing to a medium?  More stable introduction of myc to the medium?

3) I've read some posts about problems shipping to the good 'ole USA but (a) they appeared to relate to grow *kits* and the posts appeared to be rather old (2003?).  Is it safe to order syringes to the States?  Will all of the forum sponsors do this?  I thought that spores were 100% legal (and thus presumably legal to have shipped to my house without fear of snooping/getting busted)...

4) Where can I find empty syringes?  Is it possible to order them from wherever I buy my spores?  Can they be pressure cooked to reuse?

5) What strains are known for stability?  Growth speed?  Potency?  Other attributes the kind reader would like to throw in?  :wink:

6) Can someone suggest a top-notch HOWTO on making a spore print?  Are there more "fool-proof" ways of doing it than others?

7) I found a download that details growing with hydrogen peroxide.  Is it worth the hassle?

8) I'd like to hand some out to my friends once I'm done.  Are there preferred materials for packaging them?  Does the type of suitable packaging change depending on whether they're dry or "wet" fruits?  Will small plastic trays you find for salad bars work ok or should I use something else?  I imagine plastic bags are a bad idea.

9) I was reading this amazing tek that produced MASSIVE, donkey ****-sized fruits.  All I remember is that it involved a food processor to chop up the colonized cakes.  First, anyone know the growlog I'm talking about?  Second, anyone have any experience doing this?  I mean these fruits were stunning.

Sorry so many questions.  I've been reading these forums for hours at a time and I'm still confused on a few things.  I'm sure the growlogs will go a long way toward helping me figure stuff out (they were invaluable in my other "grow").

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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: splifner180]
    #5475762 - 04/03/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You know something, it's not fair to make us read all of that, especially considering every single one of those questions is easily answerable by doing a search. I'm calling you out on this one, because it's going too far. The entire hobby won't be handed to you in one evening simply by making an excessively huge post of fifty questions; it's time to do some work on your own.


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: Holydiver]
    #5475780 - 04/03/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

My apologies.

While this group might be used to people not bothering to read/search, I've been doing literally hours of this and these are the questions I've accumulated (and am still stuck on).

But you have a huge number of posts, I'll assume that if you're offended by this then so will other people and that's not my goal.

Mods, feel free to close/delete this thread. My apologies.

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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: Holydiver]
    #5475809 - 04/03/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

1) to provide extra moisture.

2) You can make LC from a spore syringe. Using LC reduces colonization times and makes your spores go farther.

3) Post this question in the safety and security forum.

4) Their are a number of online retailers that sell empty syringes. Do a froogle search.

5) A Cube is a Cube. Your technique is for more important than the strain.

6) Search the cultivation FAQs and the threads for spore print teks.

7) Growing on H202 is an agar work thing. Just pick a tek from the cultivation guides on this site(after reading all of them) and stick with that.

8) Wet fruits will rot quickly. Drying them is neccessary for any kind of long term storage. Keep them away from air and sunlight once dried and stored. How you do this is up to you.

9) Their are alot of teks that produce well. Usually bulk teks. Consult the guides and FAQ's for more information.

10) What Holy said. I read quickly and type as fast so it doesn't bother me. But don't expect ppl to do all the footwork for you. Read, generate questions, search for answers to those questions. If you cannot find the answer after a good faith effort, then please post the question so we all can learn.

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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: splifner180]
    #5475814 - 04/03/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It seems like you have your own questions already answered. The number one thing to starting out is to follow the teks to a T.


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: splifner180]
    #5475822 - 04/03/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the dunking and lc qs along with the spore print qs,can be awnsered in the archives. Shippin question- any vendor with good ratings is a good shipper, and can be relied on. the strain, and producing massive shrooms is up to you, how you grow, what tek, and what strain looks best to you. if you couldnt find these questions out on your own, then yor mom needs to hold your hand, and help you piss....happy shroomin!


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: splifner180]
    #5475827 - 04/03/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

1- dunking hydrates the cake, refrigeration is probably a contam prevention technique. Generally reserved for 2nd and subsequent flushes.

2- Liquid culture's main purpose it to created LOTS of innoculant. You're correct about using spores, but mycelium from a cake/colonized substrate can be used. It should be germ free, or can be dipped in hydrogen peroxide. Extracting a sample with a sterilized razor, or poking a cake with an empty needle are both methods of obtaining a mucelium sample. Colonized agar can be used as well :smile:

3- Spores cannot be shipped to California, Gerogia, and... somewhere else? Other states are fine AFAIK.

4-Farm supply, online supply sites, Shromery sponsors. 18 gauge I believe. I just use old spore syringes.

5- Potency determined by growing conditions. I've had great results with B+, Costa Rica, Treasure Coast and Golden Teacher as far as colonization and fruiting quantities.

6- Lots of methods. What I do is place an index card and a glass (upside down), inside the oven, heat to 300, let cool, place shroom cap on card with jar on top. Add a small ammount of silica gel and let sit with door closed for 24 hours.

7- Peroxide has many uses when growing cubes, read up and use what you want. I use peroxide to keep the water in the humidifyer clean.

8- They should be stored in an airtight container along with a desiccant that's safe (such as a packet of silica gel). When presenting to a friend I put them in a cheap baggie... you know, just like all the other drugs AFOAF gets for me :smile:

9- Likely the tek was using cakes as spawn for a bulk substrate. Better way to do this is to use a cheese grater. The cake (spawn) is used to inoculate larger ammounts of substrate such as straw or horse poo.

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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: splifner180]
    #5475852 - 04/03/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ thats how i get here its in my favorites You should update your bookmark to http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ yea, wtf!  i'm not talkin' about the Main Index  i'm talkin' about the MAIN.. index.  where it lists the most recent 5 posts or so.  it's been displayin' the same ones for days now.  i think someone needs to fix this problem.  i don't care about the main index of the BB showing the amount of new threads/posts.. .but the MAIN index.html of the shroomery should list the recently posted posts... 'cause otherwise, why do i have http://www.shroomery.org/index.html as my main page?  :tongue:
  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/?Cat=  There is something similar what you regard already built in in the board software.

If you look at the bottom of the main index.
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I type in
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Which is shorter? :wink:  Oh look theres other forums click me :smile:  I was looking around and noticed that the bottom of  the main index page it says there are no birthdays today. Yet if you click on the  calendar link and then on  January 23 2004 it shows that it is Grovesk8ters Bday.

Just thought it was courious and perhaps an error.Anno posted how to edit the host file at www.*************.org but the post was promptly deleted by an admin.

I can only remember how to edit the file in XP, perhaps Anno or someone else can help with the other operating systems.

In Windows XP go to C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc and then open notepad. Drag and drop the hosts file into notepad and you should see something like this:

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Access the shroomery by the following link: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/I fixed this, before when I typed in: www.shroomery.org/forums
i would get to the main page where I wasn't logged in... but if I clicked on any link, I would be logged in... quite annoying.

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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: splifner180]
    #5475875 - 04/03/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry for my hasty reply, I should have been a bit more diplomatic about that. You'll need a few more posts before being able to view the growlog forum, but I don't know exactly how many.


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: splifner180]
    #5475878 - 04/03/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The grow logs are a sub-forum that sprouts from the  'cultivation' forum, not the master forum list.

As far as guides and teks:

In the upper left hand corner of your browser, directly under the shroomery logo is a link that says: mushroom information.
If you 'mouse-over' it, 'growing mushrooms' apears.

Then multiple submenus come up under that..start wherever you want.

Your eyes will be bleeding before you are done learning the stuff available in those sub-menus. :smile:

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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: splifner180]
    #5475980 - 04/03/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: splifner180]
    #22263917 - 09/20/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

you need to look trough the archives:

http://www.shroomery.org/1/Mushroom-Info


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22264013 - 09/20/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22264100 - 09/20/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:pleasetellmemore:


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22264182 - 09/20/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:zombiedrool: From the grave!


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: shroombasa]
    #22264200 - 09/20/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

?
i know i wasn't on page 600 when i clicked this...


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22264748 - 09/20/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:canthelpbutlaugh:


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    #22264993 - 09/20/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

WOW. That's all I got. No funny pics or quotes. Just WOW.


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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: vagblast]
    #22265035 - 09/20/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

if you search things use the "search posts" button and activate the trusted cultivator button and search only the last 2~4 years. Helps a lot in getting "good" information :smile:

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Re: Billion-Question N00b Thread (Help meeeeee) [Re: vagblast]
    #22265063 - 09/20/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yeah yeah i fucking get it, it's an old post.
get over yourselves.

and in the mean time, wtf is this doing on page 1?
cuz i know i didn't spend hours digging trough the forum to find this fucking post.


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