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i'm so damned confused...
    #5475478 - 04/03/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

man...words can't even begin to decribe how confused i am with this.  i'm studying the Double Tub Tek and i'm lost at:

"The next step is to take the materials for your spawn medium. You can use either Roadkill?s horse manure tek or Agar?s. Both work great. I like to use a 19-quart container to mix up my stuff, but it?s really about preference. In this case, I am using 7 quarts of PR WBS to about 12-15 lbs of dried horse manure in a 64 qt container. Place the horse manure into a sterilized container, preferably lined with a trash bag, and put your colonized substrate on top. In this case, I?m using WBS. Break up the WBS and begin mixing thoroughly. Once you have mixed up your spawn, place a lid onto the container with the spawn. Spray some Lysol into the air around the Double Tubs and wait for 10 minutes."

i mean... :confused:  seriously...does it mean mix bird seed with horse manure THEN use roadkills or agars tek and mix the two together THEN add spores???  or...mix manure and bird seed THEN add the spores...?  this is probably the only part i'm cornfuggled with.  Sorry if this is a silly question to you guys, i'm like a virgin to all of this.  i figure if i'm not successful this season with hunting i'll just grow my own.  anyway some light shed on this situation would be greatly appreciated.  thanks in advance.


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: bababoey]
    #5475508 - 04/03/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

when he says add WBS, he means WBS that has already had spores (or LC) added to it and has been completely colonized (mycelium growing throughout all of it). The already colonized WBS takes over the h/poo, and then you throw a casing layer on it and fruit from that.


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: muskrat]
    #5475518 - 04/03/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

so lets say i don't have wbs thats had spores on it already. i just follow lets say agars tek and add spores and a casing layer?


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: bababoey]
    #5475530 - 04/03/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Oh man, you are lost!  Spores aren't even a part of this tek, you're supposed to have that part done with weeks ago.  This tek deals with a jar(s) of already colonized WBS, popcorn, BRF or w/e you colonize in the jars (with the spores :grin:).  You take that colonized jar (long after the part where you inoculate it with spores) and mix it with what you're adding it to (also called "spawning" it to a medium, be it horse manure, or w/e you choose).

I think you're confused towards the end of what you've bolded.  Why would you lysol the air after you've put the top on... But what it's saying is you've already mixed the two together outside of the double tub setup, and then after spraying and waiting 10 mins, add the mixed components to the double tub.

Hope that helps, but honestly, you'll really only get it by just reading more.  The terminology will just fall into place eventually.  Good luck!


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: muskrat]
    #5475531 - 04/03/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Horse manure is a bulk substrate and growing on it is quite an advanced method. Before you can utulize it you musst already have followed a grain tek or the pf tek to get some substrate you can spawn to the Hpoo. Read up on those teks first if you're new to this. Keep it simple the first time you grow. Once you have understood the simpler teks you can come back to this and it'll make more sense to you I think.


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: Solidcell]
    #5475536 - 04/03/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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so lets say i don't have wbs thats had spores on it already. i just follow lets say agars tek and add spores and a casing layer?




I don't mean any offence by this, but you really just need to read up on teks that deal with stuff like making a jar first. After all, you need the jar before this tek, and you still don't know what a colonized jar takes, let alone have one. You won't be needing this tek for a while anyways.


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: BMArts]
    #5475537 - 04/03/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

so what i'm reading now is too advanced for me...

anything more simpler? the grain tek you speak of is more of a beginner type thing?


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: Solidcell]
    #5475542 - 04/03/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'd go for the most basic of basic, the PF tek.

http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23593


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: bababoey]
    #5475547 - 04/03/06 04:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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bababoey said:
so lets say i don't have wbs thats had spores on it already. i just follow lets say agars tek and add spores and a casing layer?




Yeah, find a WBS tek, or any grain, or the PFtek even. Here are some WBS teks
http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23619
http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/26004

From that, you can case them if you want, or spawn to bulk substrates. Bulk will give you higher yeilds, but if you haven't done a lot of research and know what you're doing an extra step is just going to make it that much harder. Simple is good. Good luck!


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: muskrat]
    #5475553 - 04/03/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

(I posted my last post before I read the last few posts above it, so actually ignore that and I'm going to agree with solidcell on this one)

PF tek is where almost all people start. I'd say go with that if you're still really lost, or just want to start simple.


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: Solidcell]
    #5475561 - 04/03/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah now that you guys mention it i'm really not going for the bulk thing. i'm going for more of that type of scale...thanks for helping me out you guys...you've saved me alot of trouble lol


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Re: i'm so damned confused... [Re: bababoey]
    #5475570 - 04/03/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That's a small casing, which you can do with the PF tek, but if you want to go really really simple you can just fruit off the cakes.


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