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Salvia
    #547534 - 02/11/02 05:09 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I harvested some Salvia leaves today. These are some of the larger ones.


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Re: Salvia [Re: Anno]
    #547548 - 02/11/02 05:50 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Mmmm... minty fresh!

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Re: Salvia [Re: Anno]
    #547800 - 02/11/02 11:20 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

call me stupid, but are they active?

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Re: Salvia [Re: angryshroom]
    #547841 - 02/11/02 11:54 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Salvinorum-A, baybeee.

I personally am not a fan of salvia. I find that it's more trouble than it's worth.

Some people really like it though:).

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Re: Salvia [Re: Joshua]
    #547935 - 02/11/02 01:39 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

stuff has never done anything for me. i have been reading up on it via shroomery and it seems others cant get anything from it either. yet others say its great. whats the deal? how is it used? whats the high really like?


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Re: Salvia [Re: pleezr]
    #548131 - 02/11/02 04:21 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

not so much high as existential kick in the nuts...


ie. morph you into objects, see sounds and hear smells and become plants and see dead people and feel like a general puppet on a string....

I love it....


those are some nice leaves you got there...they sure can get huge?

care to post some pictures of the live plant. back in the day i grew a salvia plant outside...after i acclimated her to the environment with some gentle indoor care...she only lasted one season though because my dog stepped on her :frown:

I would love to start again. Its a very rewarding personal relationship.


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Re: Salvia [Re: pleezr]
    #548148 - 02/11/02 04:32 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Most people whom cant get off, are either smoking low quality salvia, or they need to do an extract. Much of the salvia being sold at shops you will find 4X,5X,10X....what this means is that they have taken a liquid extraction of the leaves, then reabsorbed that into some more leaves...which are then smoked. Most smoke salvia, some hold liquid extract under tongue, some form a quid with the leaves and keep that in. The psycoactive effects are to be read in many places, but personally, I find it to shut you down more than expand you, but a great and interesting effect for its short duration....I think its even clasified as a "dissociative"....I find that when I "break thru" i become whatever inanimate object i happen to be looking at, a chair for instance. So, If you want to know what a chair's exsistence is like, i really recommend taking salvia. ---Ec0Freak0


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Re: Salvia [Re: EcoFreako]
    #548341 - 02/11/02 08:44 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

sounds wild. I would like to try some sometime.

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Re: Salvia [Re: Anno]
    #548436 - 02/11/02 10:21 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Heya Anno... I have been interested in experiencing/learning about Salvia... Is it easy to get seeds? Can my dog grow it indoors, like her pretty Indicas??? She would love to try cultivating some Salvia indoors...

Thanks, man.

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Re: Salvia [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #548450 - 02/11/02 10:36 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

seeds are extremely ummm impossible to get .. you need to order a cutting from somewhere


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Re: Salvia [Re: SumGuy]
    #548455 - 02/11/02 10:40 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmmm....  shitty....
I don't see a cutting surviving a trip here!!

Oh well...  maybe some will find me...  :smile:

Thanks, DUDE!

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Re: Salvia [Re: Anno]
    #548492 - 02/11/02 11:51 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Are you going to extract it?


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Re: Salvia [Re: Anonymous]
    #548498 - 02/12/02 12:01 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Well... I have to get some first... like I said, I'm just learning about it.. and I would like to try some along with some G.C. that should start pinning soon...

but to answer your question... I probably would try extracting it... is it a lot more potent that way??

Any info about this curious specimen would be greatly appreciated...

You da man, psyko78626!

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Re: Salvia [Re: EcoFreako]
    #548500 - 02/12/02 12:05 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I have tried dried leaf, and two diff. extracts. I made one myself using methanol. I approximate it's strength at 10x. I also tried some that Anno sent that was 6x. I got off on it, it's just that I do not desire to get back on. I don't get a very healthy feeling when I smoke it. I suppose it's just different strokes for different folks.

I do encourage anyone to try it in a controlled setting. Just because I don't care for it doesn't mean it won't work for someone else.

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Re: Salvia [Re: Joshua]
    #548502 - 02/12/02 12:15 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Joshua!

What exactly do yo mean by "You don't get a very healthy feeling when u smoke it??" Is the smoke comparable to Mary J?

Thanks, bud!



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Re: Salvia [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #548511 - 02/12/02 12:39 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

This probably has something to do with the dissociative properties of the high. I feel like it is poison and is killing me. I get the same feeling as I have off of some very bad things I have done in the past. This is probably the dissociative property as I said earlier. I have the desire to try it again, I have heard of break-throughs occuring after several times of smoking. It seems sometimes to just kick in. My explaination is limited by the fact that I can not portray the true experiences I have had. I wouldn't necessarily discourage anyone from trying it.

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Re: Salvia [Re: Joshua]
    #548518 - 02/12/02 12:52 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Man, Josh!!  You have me VERY curious!!

I wonder how the hell I can get some in Canada...  Where do people get cuttings, and why is it almost impossible to get seeds???

Also, is it legal??  What class of substance would you say it is??
(man I ask too many questions!)  :wink:


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Re: Salvia [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #548529 - 02/12/02 01:04 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I don't believe that Salvia is on any drug schedules. I got my leaf from The Shamans Garden online store.

The interesting issue about Salvia propogation is that it is essentially sterile. It does not produce seeds. I believe it has been propogated through cuttings for a very long time. This probably arose out of some mutation. I'm sure the natives have an explaination for it.

Once again the isolated chemical responsible for its effects is Salvinorin-A.

Check out this site for further enlightenment:
Lycaeum

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Re: Salvia [Re: Joshua]
    #548533 - 02/12/02 01:09 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Hey thanks for your time and insight, Joshua!

I will check out the Lycaeum.

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Re: Salvia [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #548554 - 02/12/02 01:47 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Also a very good site from the discoverer of salvinorin:

www.sagewisdom.org

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Re: Salvia [Re: Anno]
    #548574 - 02/12/02 03:05 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

What a great site about salvia thanks Anno.

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Re: Salvia [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #548589 - 02/12/02 03:50 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Grim, a recent supplier that I just found in Canada is: http://store.yahoo.com/ethnogarden , they are out of Toronto. They have decent prices for Salvia, not the cheapest, but not outrageous either...a 1 gr. extract (5X) is 22.00 CN, and the regular Oaxacan leaf is going $145 for 4 ounces on sale. I have recently e-mailed them to find out when they are receiving live plants...to do cuttings, and they responded saying between March and May. As for general well priced entheogens including salvia in the states, a good site is www.ethnobotanicals.org, where I got my first salvia purchases from. -----Ec0Freak0


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Re: Salvia [Re: EcoFreako]
    #548618 - 02/12/02 05:43 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Hey thanks, man.. I'll check em out... just curious... the 1gr (5x).. is that considered 0ne dose... I read that the recommended dosage is around 200-400mcg...

I have also heard of using Salvia in conjunction with Mushrooms.. Anyone else aware of this?

Thanks again to everyone for their valuable info... I love this place!!

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Re: Salvia [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #548624 - 02/12/02 06:03 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Salvia [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #548671 - 02/12/02 07:28 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

grim go to www.ethnobotanix.ca to order it that way it doesn't cross any borders .. even though it's not scheduled they are looking into making it a scheduled drug ... you could probably get off pretty good on a .4 of 5x extract i know people who got off really good on a .2 of 10x ... when you smoke it you have to use a really really good pipe or bong and use a pocket torch to light it... smoke as much as you can in one hit and hold it for 30 seconds .. and make sure you're sitting down and have someone there to take the pipe away from you ...


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Re: Salvia [Re: Anno]
    #548997 - 02/12/02 01:50 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Anno do you plan to extract your Salvia?


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Re: Salvia [Re: SumGuy]
    #549138 - 02/12/02 03:41 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, ethnobotanix is a good site, I think they have the best prices. It's the same site as http://www.peruvian-journey.com, that's the one in America, they have the best prices.

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Re: Salvia [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #549144 - 02/12/02 03:47 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

There are several posts about salvia in ethnobotanical forum, also you can find dosage information by searching on trips forum.

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Re: Salvia [Re: SumGuy]
    #549841 - 02/13/02 08:45 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Some guy said "they are looking into making it a scheduled drug"

Where did you hear about this - please tell me .

Anno - nice one man they look cool - how long does it take to grow ?

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Re: Salvia [Re: Food]
    #549895 - 02/13/02 09:47 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

It grows fairly fast, let?s say 4 feet in 1 year, perhaps more.

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Re: Salvia [Re: Joshua]
    #550064 - 02/13/02 12:56 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

There are only two places known to have plants with seeds to my knowlodge, Oxaca Mexico and a cultivator in Hawai.
Anyway, seeds are not really needed because this plant roots very easy, the hard part it's to get a cutting and make it survive.
As to salvia scheduling, the US gov. is studying its effects and there's a chance it might be schedulled sometime soon, fuck them i say.

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Re: Salvia [Re: MAIA]
    #551022 - 02/14/02 08:26 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Moved here from "Mushroom pictures" after it was brought to my attention that I posted it in the wrong forum.

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Re: Salvia [Re: Anno]
    #553395 - 02/16/02 08:00 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Salvia,is for some people and not for others,the effects,to me,are not pleasant,its just feels like shi if you ask me,and no t can not be compared to marijuana.And has anydoby hit it from a ral big chamber,because the affects are substantially stronger when i hit my Jerome Baker,then when i hit from a pipe or acrylic bong??



i have some extract and some leaf to trade for any type of seed,woodrose,cacti,poppy,and if you have a cub i dont have i will trade for that to.


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Re: Salvia [Re: lsdncapz]
    #562005 - 02/24/02 10:33 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

i agree, its to intense for me. i ordered a plant, but they wont ship till march/april because of the cold weather. i couldnt wait, so i ordered some 6x...this stuff is unreal, kinda reminds me of my childhood days of sniffin gas. i didnt enjoy it at all, and there isnt much i dont like putting in my system! anyway, i guess i'll have a plant to trade in a month or so


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Re: Salvia [Re: Anno]
    #562851 - 02/25/02 05:17 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

:smile: Very nice leaves Anno :smile:

Do you also grow outside in de summer? And did you also notice that leaves harvested on a good Salvia day (temp, hum) are much more potent than those harvested inside in winter time?

I started my salvia growing by really spoiling the plants. More and more I discovered that they will do also okee in much worse conditions.

Now a days I keep them winter time indoor, only water them ones a week and spray them the same day. Okee they don't grow as they should do when spoiled, but they are in no  bad condition.

Indoor I grow them till 2.20 meter, guided with some bamboe. Awsome big leaves 2.

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Re: Salvia [Re: MeneerCactus]
    #568148 - 03/02/02 11:00 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Grim 420, a good place to buy salvia cuttings in Canada is : http://log.on.ca/salvia-north/salvia_english.htm . My order arrived a few weeks ago and was in great shape!! Very nice guy...his cuttings are only $15 each + shipping.

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Re: Salvia [Re: bybliz]
    #568185 - 03/03/02 12:27 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Yep,

Mark from Canada (Salvia North) rules! When ever you order at Marks please say high from me....

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