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green mold on casing of pan cyans
    #5475076 - 04/03/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ive done numerous b+ strains with no problems using horseshit pasturized using the oven bag method.
Ive recently started trying to do some pan cyans. The jars colozized without a hitch on wild bird seed and I pasturized more shit and tried the same thing..... mixing half the jar in the cooled bag and shaking then dumping it in an aluminum loaf pan and covering with the other half of the spawn from the spawn jar. Then I put the lid on the loaf pan and put in the terrarium which is covered with a blanked for darkness and the bottom lined with perlite for humidity. Everything seems fine about 5 days later... the substrate turning completely white.
Then I put a thin casing layer of 50percent vermiculite and 50percent peat moss saturated with distilled water to slightly more than damp. About 4 days later the mycelium is poking through.
The problem appears next when the knotting starts to form and there is tiny tiny water drops and eventually green mold everywhere.
I have tried this and failed about 3 times now with the same problem at the same step. I cleaned the terrarium out after each problem and have polyfill in the holes of the handles.
My next one I will try using just vermiculite and water for the casing and also dry vermiculite in the pan beneath the substrate.

Any ideas or suggestions?


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: nostrafrog]
    #5475316 - 04/03/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

How deep is your substrate layers? Pans like shallow substrate depth, about 2 inches max. The mycellium is also not able to fight off contams as easy as cube myc is, pay careful attention to your environment. 95+ humidity is fine for PRE PINNING, afterwards you need to drop it down to below 90 (optimal is 85-88). Also, stop misting when you see pins, misting will cause the majority of your pins to abort. The overly wet enviornment is, obviously, a haven for mean green. Try to keep it a bit more dry and use a shallow pan for your next grow.

Check out blue helix's grow log in the archive section at the top of this page as well.


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: coda]
    #5475366 - 04/03/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Did you sterilize your casing? It seems like you would, but just checking.


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: nostrafrog]
    #25340907 - 07/22/18 04:30 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

You are not alone, the same thing is happening to me, only after 12 days of casing. No pins, mycellium overgrowth all around, and blue mold appeard today. Substrate is about 2 inches. The humidity is 92. I’ve heard pan cyan loves humidity, close to 100%. Temperature is around 77-81. Some say 75 is enough. There are so many adverse opinions, hard to know what to change with the next growth.


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: nostrafrog]
    #25341125 - 07/22/18 06:33 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

That sucks man.  Green mold on casing is such a bummer.  All that work for nothing.

You did not mention hydrated lime in your recipe.  Did you use it?  Green mold  doesn't like PH above 7.5 supposedly.


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
    #25341130 - 07/22/18 06:35 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

:feelsoldman:


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: mushboy]
    #25341153 - 07/22/18 06:48 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Feels old man?  Does that mean high PH casing soil is outdated technology?


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
    #25341158 - 07/22/18 06:51 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

nope.

thread is 12 yrs old:awedance:


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: mushboy]
    #25341162 - 07/22/18 06:51 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I see


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
    #25342162 - 07/23/18 11:01 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I did use hidrated lime. Still I got the mold.


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Re: green mold on casing of pan cyans [Re: Turquoise]
    #25342307 - 07/23/18 12:26 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

IMO watch the amount of water and make sure you shred the pieces into small bits. I recently used coco coir with verm and a certain local sort of pulverized limestone / sandstone which should be better as a pH buffer than lime and it worked alright except for chunks of coir which were just too large and apparently I didn't shred them properly. I was early in picking those out but it will probably be trouble later.

Things like coir and other plant matter may be low in nutrition but are still woody (lignocelluloid) and green mold likes that. Your myc needs to be able to colonize it fast and the buffer needs to be able to be mixed and spreaded to cover everything. Chunks can be isolated like islands and that's potentially a bad thing.

Green mold really likes the summertime, it sucks balls


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