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Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals
    #5473962 - 04/03/06 09:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know alot of people dont like the effects of this shroom, but ive heard some good reports about it, and im willing to try it once.
Mainly because they grow in abundance near me at the right time of year, and the effects described appeal enough to me.

So im looking through my book and i come across this :

"Besides a small amount of muscarin, the fly agaric contains the agent muscimol which causes disturbances of consciousness and hallucinations. Do not try tasting this fungus. It contains further, not yet analysed poisons which are dangerous to health and can, in rare cases prove fatal "

Does anybody know anything about these un-analysed chemicals. Or is there no reason to worry about them. Least not from trying them once ?.

Id be happy for any help on this,, its shame any dead folk carnt tell me its a bad idea !


Edited by Mike_yy (04/03/06 10:04 AM)


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Re: Amanitas [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5473981 - 04/03/06 09:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Just dont eat them in abundence..


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Re: Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5474135 - 04/03/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ahhh.
Feel compelled to pipe in here...

Please make sure to do your best to convert as much of the ibotenic acid into muscimol as you possibly can....

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Re: Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5474825 - 04/03/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

All fatal cases of eating A. muscaria have involved large doses and/or already ill/weakened individuals.

If you're determined to try them, use a small dosage. If it's unpleasant it won't be too bad (hopefully). If you actually like it, you can always try a higher dose the next time.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals [Re: ToxicMan]
    #5480358 - 04/04/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I understand that the white specs on the cap are a high concentration of this poison.


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Re: Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals [Re: DaveTX]
    #5480368 - 04/04/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

if your going to eat it make shure to peal the cap including the red and make shure to dry it out.


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Re: Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals [Re: DaveTX]
    #5480370 - 04/04/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Odd advice friend. You gotta link?


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Re: Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals [Re: DaveTX]
    #5480420 - 04/04/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

myth.

careful using ambiguous words like poison, too.

relative in some respects, the word "poison" is....


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Re: Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals [Re: remediator]
    #5480443 - 04/04/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know there are articles that conflict each other in how to prepare them... the best I've heard is to dry them in an oven at a very low temp until they are cracker dry, powder them and then boil them at a VERY SPECIFIC (???) temp and drink it while it is stooling at another SPECIFIC TEMP (???)

does anyone else have any other methods that YOU YOURSELF have used, other than just eating the dried caps, or is eating the dry caps the best way to go? I know they don't smell too pleasant and even feel very icky.

I was feeling a little erked just from picking them out of the ground. That sticky shit on them is kind of off-putting.


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Re: Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals [Re: indica]
    #5480650 - 04/04/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Amanitas " not yet analysed " Chemicals [Re: remediator]
    #5480790 - 04/04/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

that's the one I've read.
Is this the best recipe available?


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