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barfightlard
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Wilderness Survival?
#5473606 - 04/03/06 05:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Does anyone have good advice or could direct me too good advice?
Thanks
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Re: Wilderness Survival? [Re: Shroomism]
#5478918 - 04/04/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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so, im fed up with the way the world is evolving. people are slaves to their jobs just to servive. my whole family and freinds are just squeeking by finacialy. this, they cant even afford to go to the doctor for medical problems, and their only worrys are how their going to pay their bill. man wasnt meant to evolve this way. but they have. I refuse to do it. I live right next to the rocky mountains, so Im gona do it. Im going to finish growing shrooms, and im going to pack some crap and im going to hike up to the mountains. thats where im gona live. pure servival. no technology, jobs, no worrys, but only to servive. the way man started out, from the wild. thats where are roots started. alot of people forget it and get cought up in the modern life. but the truth is, if they were put in a servival situation, they wouldnt servive. Thus being said does anybody have a good site, for basic, and advanced servival techniques?
I looked at the site above, but it didnt have to much, is there any other site that goes in depth of how to servive?
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daimyo
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It all depends on where you're at. However, the basics are hunting, gathering, farming, scouting, and navigating. You should talk to some park people(rangers or guides) in the area. Try and gain some knowledge from them. Also, take some books with you. Things that will help you identify the posionous and edible plants.
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Re: Wilderness Survival? [Re: daimyo]
#5479300 - 04/04/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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^If you are going to talk to the rangers, DO NOT mention that you plan on living in the wilderness.
Like was said, this is much easier said than done. Especially in the winter, it will be very hard to live in the Rockies by yourself. Yes, people have lived in the wilderness for ages, but their lives were devoted to gathering food, hunting, migrating, etc. I once read that some Indian tribes spent 360 days of the year gathering food. That is an entire tribe of people working together to sustain themselves, who had thousands of years of knowledge passed down to them by people who had done it before. I'm not saying its impossible to just head out and go for it, but being by yourself and not knowing much about living in the woods will make it EXTREMELY difficult and dangerous. I would reccomend reading the book "Into the Wild" by John Krakauer. It is right up your alley, and shows what has happened to people attempting this feat.
Good luck.
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Re: Wilderness Survival? [Re: Grok]
#5479409 - 04/04/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright, thanks. I figure ill take necesitys that will last at least a month, shampoo. lighters, etc. some baggs to store food or somthing. but ill slowly change to doing the mountain way. when I run out of lighters, ill start learning to start a fire(I already now how)when my shamp. runs out ill learn how to keep clean as possible. If all else fails I can hike into town and gather supplies, but I hope it doesnt come to that. thanks for the advice.
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barfightlard
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Thanks for the advice guys.
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Try to come back and post if possible on your story. I would love to hear about it
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From what I've read, the best book on this subject is How to Stay Alive in the Woods, by Bradford Angier. You can get it on Amazon ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0684831015/102-7749942-1922552?v=glance&n=283155 ) for cheap. This book is amazing and should be in every backpack or vehicle. It was recommended to me by an old hardcore WW1 veteran and woodsman. Good luck!
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barfightlard
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Quote:
David_vs_Goliath said: Try to come back and post if possible on your story. I would love to hear about it
If I ever go that way and make it I will be back here to share for sure.
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its funny because every time I trip, EVERY time, I am acutly aware of the enviroment and my place in it, such as im not just sitting in my house, im sitting in shelter and its getting colder outside by the minute.
some points
one, if your thinking about bringing shampoo, you are a retard... if your talking about the rockies keep in mind a few simple things
one, its gets fucking cold, space blankets.. two, you HAVE to find a way to kill deer. A deer stomach and a little venisin woven together makes a fine pouch that will even hold water.
did you know pine root is edible? and the green non-needle pine growths have vitamin c (scurvey is a bitch)in them and can work as a local numbing agent for your mouth (try chewing on some sometime)
Im into the same shit myself sir, Infact hell I live by tahoe if you ever wana try it. Start out going on hikes, start with a short hike and GPS, go in the morning with no food.. see how much food you can get while still moving.. thats the real key factor.
Im into the same shit, I have no idea how old this thread is.. hope i dont bounce it.. pm me sometime
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Re: Wilderness Survival? [Re: koontar]
#5485451 - 04/06/06 04:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, you consider shampoo a 'necessity'?? Dude, wake the fuck up. Mankind has been around for 200,000 years plus...shampoo has been around what, 100 years? Shampoo is not a necessity.
A first aid kit would be a good idea. Including disinfectant liquid. If you cut yourself bad you can gather up a shitload of spider webs till it makes a kind of sponge to shove into the wound.
I don't know you, but I can't picture you actually doing this unless you already have a lot of outdoor experience etc.
Not to mention the 'authorities' would probably pluck you outta there asap. Being america and all. I heard you can't even sleep in your own car in a lot of places over there.
But I wish you luck. Todays society really does make you just wanna go bush. Things would probably work out better, and safer, if you went with someone else too. If you're by yourself and something bad happens, you can be pretty screwed.
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Re: Wilderness Survival? [Re: zee_werp]
#5485553 - 04/06/06 07:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Research planning and ability to improvise, could jump in with both feet see how you fair, then see what you learn from that experience or try a two day trip. Carrying food is an encumbrance, catching food is a skill. Practice those skills. Building a shelter is easy, lighting a fire straight forward if you now what tinder and how to get dry fuel.
Overall fire shelter, food and water is all U need keep it simple. Forming an accurate idea of what you are aiming to do over a vague notion is the way to go.
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Re: Wilderness Survival? [Re: zee_werp]
#5485830 - 04/06/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do you use shampoo? I bet if you asked every person what they used shampoo would be one of it. ive had dreads before, and have found other ways to wash my head. shampoos just handy to have.
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Hes right though man, you're talking about wilderness survival and you're going to bring shampoo and LIGHTERS?? You need waterproof matches, buddy.
I'm not trying to diss you but its pretty obvious you have no business trying to survive in the wilderness by your own because you don't know even the simplest most basic items to bring with you, much less the techniques you'll need to master in order to keep yourself fed, warm, safe and SANE (a much bigger factor than most stop to consider).
Go here: Tracker School To get started. Get some of Tom Brown Jr.'s books. If you are really serious, take one of his classes, or a NOLS course or a Wilderness First Responder course.
I really encourage as many people as possible to pursue wilderness survival and actually try living in the wilderness, but not unless you know what you are doing. Please be safe and educate yourself. It is part of the challenge but ultimately part of the reward.
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Re: Wilderness Survival? [Re: Kylos]
#5493287 - 04/08/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great thread dudes, thanks for the links.
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