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spudamore
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warrior-sage
#5466130 - 04/01/06 01:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i just reread a book from stuart wilde called the quickening and there was a message that i read and had forgotten about. its about if you would like to live the life of a warrior sage you have to cut all the useless shit in your life, many of the new agers are into crystals, healings, dream catchers, rituals, ect, ect, but all that crap takes your mind of what true spirituality is, in my opinion it is living life and concentrating in every moment flowing freely through life taking on anything and everything that comes into your life and path. knowing that death could come at any moment but still facing the situation head on being free from the fear of death. and also a big part of it is being comfortable with "not knowing" and self empowerment and cutting all the shit away that would take your power away from becoming that, would love to hear other peoples thoughts on what else could be added to the list.
-------------------- suicide a permanent solution to a temporary problem
Edited by spudamore (04/01/06 01:14 AM)
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fireworks_god
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Re: warrior-sage [Re: spudamore]
#5466157 - 04/01/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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spudamore said: all that crap takes your mind of what true spirituality is, in my opinion it is living life and concentrating in every moment flowing freely through life taking on anything and everything that comes into your life and path. knowing that death could come at any moment but still facing the situation head on being free from the fear of death.
I appreciate your definition of "true" spirituality. In my own words, it is simply the act of bringing awareness into oneself and becoming more present, which means that one is more fully experiencing their life as it occurs, and is more directly perceiving reality. Thus, it also includes observing one's mind and becoming disciplined in actively utilizing one's mind to direct one's focus and one's experience.
It is to simply become aware of reality, observe reality and learn from reality, and then apply oneself in furthering reality. Most people act but without true awareness of this.
As for "all of that crap" taking your mind away from true spirituality, I do not agree. Whether or not that occurs is dependant on the mind itself, and not the participation in these activities themselves. I play guitar, but the pursuit of doing so is not a distraction from my spirituality, it is an expression of my spirituality. Others, not aware of my mind's processes, might see it as being a distraction. That is not something that they are capable of determining. 
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He just means that spirituality is not summed up by some stupid idol-like objects. It's within you and you are part of life. So.. why bother with anything other than what's useful? Ofcourse we all have our things. Some people could have a nice necklace of the cross or something. I think that a cherished possession is in another category. Useless junk that is supposed to represent some abstract concept is not worth anyone's attention.
It's like going up to a random goth at some highschool and expecting him to be able to express his opinion about why he wears all black clothes and has a hexagon on his backpack. He probably doesn't even know anything about it. It's a golden calf.
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hobbitcg said: He just means that spirituality is not summed up by some stupid idol-like objects.
He directly referred to certain practices and objects as serving to distract the mind from practicing spirituality. This is not the same thing as to state that spirituality is not summed up by whatever it is that you are referring to.
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It's within you and you are part of life. So.. why bother with anything other than what's useful?
And what is and is not useful? Symbolism can be very useful, as can anything else.
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Useless junk that is supposed to represent some abstract concept is not worth anyone's attention.
This statement is far too vauge to decypher, first and foremost. What is it that you are discussing? "Useless junk"? What is that? As humans, we employ a lot of things that are to signify abstract concepts. A stop sign is not worth anyone's attention?
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It's like going up to a random goth at some highschool and expecting him to be able to express his opinion about why he wears all black clothes and has a hexagon on his backpack. He probably doesn't even know anything about it. It's a golden calf.
Still not sure what your point is. Super hypothetical situations don't convey much. 
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Re: warrior-sage [Re: spudamore]
#5467128 - 04/01/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You just screamed "the ways of ancient Lemuria". I'll PM you an article on one persons account of what happened when West (Atlantis) met East.
FW, you and spudamore are talking about the same thing. Awareness in spirit, awareness in consciousness- same thing. Like when you play your guitar and feel uplifted and aware of so much more, it all came from you, not the guitar. That's all he is saying. Maybe I will post that article in MR&P. One of many lessons learned was to keep mindful of where the power has always been and not to externalize our own over into objects and loose the connection with our own spirit and believe the power to uplift comes from the objects.
I'm still sorting through what role of use objects have in the big picture including these bodies. I think they are just a part of playing in the fun house of mirrors.
I like what someone said about how far we have come in the last 10,000 years is ultimately trivial. Yeah, humans figured out how to engineer and build sky scrappers and how to build flying machines and create hateful people to fly into and tear them down with. Boy were cooking now getting ahead as a collective of life forms. NOT! 
There's a Hawaiian saying that fits here. Quote:
Man thinks he is more evolved then the dolphin because he has built tall buildings, computers and nuclear weapons, where as the dolphin just plays all day. The dolphin thinks he is more evolved for the same reason.
I'm going to post that account in MR&P instead for more to read. Even if any of you all just see Atlantis and Lemuria as symbolic places of philosophical myth, you can learn much from the symbology and archetypes of the story. You might experience feeling yourself being effected by it on some deeper levels as well. Read it as fiction like the story of the Tortoise and the Hare.
It's a pivotal time for human kind. Many are asking, individually and collectively, where have we/I been, where are we/am I now, and where do we/I go from here.
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Re: warrior-sage [Re: spudamore]
#5469469 - 04/01/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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also another lesson is be responsible for yourself and your actions. and not to ask for things that you can get yourself or acheive for yourself.
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Re: warrior-sage [Re: spudamore]
#5470131 - 04/02/06 06:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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A warrior must know his means. That includes material and spiritual means. That makes him a healer at the same time. The responsibility is not always his, but it is about the principle he follows, may it be that of a king, g*d, Jeezus, some trancendence or some realism. He is a slave out of his free will, to something, he considers 'higher'.
Edited by BlueCoyote (04/02/06 06:09 AM)
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"Yeah, humans figured out how to engineer and build sky scrappers and how to build flying machines and create hateful people to fly into and tear them down with. Boy were cooking now getting ahead as a collective of life forms. NOT!"
What bitter, hate filled rhetoric.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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gettinjiggywithit
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I just stated the plain and obvious truth.
Human beings erected the buildings and humans raised to terrorize used airplanes to take them down, along with killing thousands of humans in them. That's a cold hard objective fact of the modern age.
If you think that is a sign that human beings as a collective whole have progressed any further, then from throwing rocks at each other from caves, in a way that means something to ME, I think I made it clear that it doesn't. 
Perhaps you think humans have progressed as a collective whole in a way that means something to you. 
Peace Hue Hue!
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